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Philip Rivers posted:It's heavily implied they kiss in the elevator. How is the movie dark? People dying doesn't mean dark. The good guys win in this. A robot makes jokes, there's a blind samurai. This movie isn't dark.
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Given that a lot of wannabe script gurus were betting that Jyn was Rey's mother, it's clear that a lot of people were expecting at least a couple of the characters to make it out.
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Waffles Inc. posted:How is the movie dark? People dying doesn't mean dark. The good guys win in this. A robot makes jokes, there's a blind samurai. This movie isn't dark. Yeah, what? This movie is a fiesta. There's nothing psychologically traumatizing, or even particularly evil (that isn't in the main series, anyways). I wish they'd gone a lot further, because it would've given it some life. Like if the pilot guy had been super hosed up after the mind-reading alien, or something like that.
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So from reading this thread and other parts of the internet, it seems like the consensus is that one of the two major original trilogy characters to be recreated by CG looked good, and the other looked like dogshit. There is no consensus about which was which though.
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Does K2 being my favourite character of the entire deal make me infantile? With the monk duo a close second and third.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Yeah, what? This movie is a fiesta. There's nothing psychologically traumatizing, or even particularly evil (that isn't in the main series, anyways). I wish they'd gone a lot further, because it would've given it some life. Like if the pilot guy had been super hosed up after the mind-reading alien, or something like that. Yeah that was such a lame bloody fakeout. "go mad" - guy briefly sounded something like I do before I have a morning coffee, then sounded probably more okay then before that scene.
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Diabolik900 posted:So from reading this thread and other parts of the internet, it seems like the consensus is that one of the two major original trilogy characters to be recreated by CG looked good, and the other looked like dogshit. There is no consensus about which was which though. They both looked bad. Peter Cushing looked like he had the flu and Leia looked like she was having an allergic reaction. Cushing in particular was distracting because he's onscreen for huge chunks of time. Teal posted:Does K2 being my favourite character of the entire deal make me infantile? No, those were the only characters with much personality, I liked them too. I also enjoyed the white cape guy who seemed to have a good time being evil. Magic Hate Ball fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Dec 17, 2016 00:28
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I never said it was particularly dark, just that it could have easily been too dark if it was just a bit darker.
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It would have to be a lot darker to be anywhere near "too dark".
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Philip Rivers posted:I never said it was particularly dark, just that it could have easily been too dark if it was just a bit darker. I dunno like, it would have to be a radically different movie to be dark whatsoever RotS and even ESB are way darker than R1
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Philip Rivers posted:It's heavily implied they kiss in the elevator. Seeing as the death star nukes the planet then I think it's pretty believable that they wanna go out fuckin'.
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Ramadu posted:How bad is the pandering to China? one of the x-wing pilots is a panda
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One thing that seems weird to me - won't the empire miss their Super Important Stuff data storage? One would presume that if they entrusted the place with engineering plans of the Death Star, it held more "no other copy kept anywhere else" stuff, or was it specific to just the Death Star? Was the rest of it just Vader's porn?
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Philip Rivers posted:
ehh. i saw it more as a friend at the end kinda deal. they are hosed and they know it. so they embrace. if they had been making out or even kissing, id agree with you. other then that. i agree with your views. bondster posted:
its "Don't choke on your aspirations." and vader did little dark joke lines like that in the OT "apology accepted, captain needa" and of course, "i find you lack of faith disturbing" the movie never hit wheadon level dialogue so i am ok with vader doing that little line.
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Neither character had any chemistry with eachother beyond grudging respect for 90% of the film, but suddenly she's getting all blushy when he stares at her with his bedroom eyes and it's all around gross and unbelievable.
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bondster posted:That being said, my god Vader's "Don't CHOKE on your responsibilities" (wording may be wrong) while choking that guy may have been the worst line in all of Star Wars. For a brief moment it turned Vader into a Disney/Marvel character instead of a Star Wars character. The worst line? Have you even SEEN the PT? That line is Shakespearean by comparison to lines throughout PM/AotC/RotS
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Caeks posted:The worst line? Have you even SEEN the PT? That line is Shakespearean by comparison to lines throughout PM/AotC/RotS What's an example of one?
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Waffles Inc. posted:What's an example of one? "I don't like sand," he said, sexily.
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Waffles Inc. posted:What's an example of one? this entire exchange https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtjfWvWowgM
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Philip Rivers posted:It's heavily implied they kiss in the elevator. It heavily is not.
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Mandrel posted:It heavily is not.
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Seen it twice now. Liked it even better the second time, and somehow Tarkin wasn't as jarring to me as he was the first time.
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The Vader line was awesome, and it fits who Anakin is. Just because he's Vader now doesn't mean he COMPLETELY changed who he is.
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What rebel ships were able to escape? I think I saw the transport get out, along with Red and Gold Squadrons. Presumably when the Rebel command ship was disabled the bridge and everyone who knew were the Rebel base was had been killed. There's a shot of the ship when you see Vader's ship head towards it- is the bridge destroyed at that point? Was the Rebel General who ordered there to be no extraction on board the Hammerhead Corvette? I think I saw him wearing a helmet on it. Meaning he presumably died too. Comstar fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Philip Rivers posted:It's heavily implied they kiss in the elevator. Not in the slightest.
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So in a new hope, did they forget the death star had a warp drive? It should of chased the falcon into hyperspace! Space Balls knew the truth!
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Auron posted:The Vader line was awesome, and it fits who Anakin is. Just because he's Vader now doesn't mean he COMPLETELY changed who he is. who the gently caress is anakin
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The Vader line isn't that far off from "Apology accepted Captain Needa" really
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Tenzarin posted:So in a new hope, did they forget the death star had a warp drive? It should of chased the falcon into hyperspace! Space Balls knew the truth! There's degrees of speed in hyperspace per Han's infamous parsec brag, and presumably a moon-sized wad of metal is relatively slow.
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Vintimus Prime posted:The Vader line isn't that far off from "Apology accepted Captain Needa" really I liked Force Awakens, but Rogue One is a far better Star Wars movie. While my favorite is of course Empire, Rogue One is a very close second after one viewing. There are many things that I can nitpick about Rogue One - namely, the Tarkin effects (I found the Leia one to be far better, but this was probably due to the fact she had so little screen time) - but I really feel Rogue One is by far the most solid Star Wars movie released after the OT.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:The big problem with Tarkin is that his face moves too loving much. I didn't have a huge problem with Leia because Carrie Fisher circa 1977 was already basically a CGI anime character made flesh, but Tarkin was bad because his facial movement rigging is all hosed up and out of sync. I didn't think Tarkin looked that bad, but I do think they went overboard with him. Not just did his face move way too much, Cushing wasn't that craggy-looking in real life, there were way too many wrinkles on his face. He looked like someone took Lance Henriksen's face and stretched it over Cushing's skull. Or Enki Bilal drawing of Peter Cushing. Apparently Washington Post thinks the opposite, claiming that Cushing looked good while Leia looked too fake. Comstar posted:What rebel ships were able to escape? I think I saw the transport get out, along with Red and Gold Squadrons. That transport didn't get out, it slammed straight into the Devastator
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Vintimus Prime posted:The Vader line isn't that far off from "Apology accepted Captain Needa" really "If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?" "We would be honoured if you would join us." "How dare the press not believe me that I went after my mother with a hammer!" "Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them." "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am." I don't think Rogue One had anything out of character Compared with Clu from Tron: Legacy, Tarkin was OK. Leia, not so much. Captain Splendid fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Dec 17, 2016 |
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Tarkin was weird for me, in that it wasn't weird for me. I entirely agree that he was on a very fine line between realistic and just-off that I kept expecting uncanny valley issues... but I didn't get any. And I felt like he actually got better as the film went on, although that might just have been that there was darker lighting in his second scene (and it was lighting, especially in comparison with Krennic, that I thought was the biggest different; here's an actual human with pores and wrinkles and thousands of skin imperfections changing the way the light reflects on him, and meanwhile plasticine, one light source Tarkin). But I didn't get any visceral uncanny valley reaction. Odd.
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We've come a long way since Gladiator, even if we haven't reached perfect CGI-people yet. It's still pretty drat good in my books.
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Captain Splendid posted:"If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?" I'm sincerely sorry, but you're lying to yourself if you think that kind of sarcasm and dad puns are even remotely similar
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Darth Vader is a dad, though. Of twins. Not even he is immune to dad humor.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I'm sincerely sorry, but you're lying to yourself if you think that kind of sarcasm and dad puns are even remotely similar I didn't say anything of the sort, I gave you a selection of quotes and then stated that he wasn't acting out of character. Apology accepted 
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I thought Cushing was well done, Leia was a bit of a disaster.
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They were about equal for me - I didn't really remember Cushing from the original movies beyond "stern Nazi", but he gets tons of screen time to be scrutinized, while Leia is so clearly recognizable despite being onscreen for only a few seconds.
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drat I didn't even know the one guy was CG, I thought it was just Leia, because of course, but even that looked perfect to me
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