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Is Vivaldi safe (or good) to use?
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Dec 9, 2016 15:52
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Dodoman posted:Is Vivaldi safe (or good) to use? He was a good composer, although most people will limit themselves to "Spring" from his 4 Seasons suite.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:18
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Non Serviam posted:He was a good composer, although most people will limit themselves to "Spring" from his 4 Seasons suite. I'm more of a Handel guy myself.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:26
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Dodoman posted:Is Vivaldi safe (or good) to use? Serious question here: I don't have a comment about this browser but why is Chrome or Firefox not good enough for you?
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Dec 9, 2016 17:50
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Both of those remain my primary browser, I just wanted to try something else for a few days  . In any case Vivaldi seems to be a chromium browser so I might as well use chrome.
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Dec 9, 2016 20:21
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Is there a point to using EMET on Windows 10 Pro? The EMET site says support's been extended through to 2018, but that they recommend upgrading to Win 10, and that while EMET is supported on Win10 up to 1607, it will not be supported on future versions of Win10, which I'm taking to be the Creator's Update due out H1 next year. So does this mean that they're building all the technologies from EMET into Win10? It always struck me as odd that they released EMET as a separate add-on, rather than building it into Windows from the start... is that what they're doing going forward?
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Dec 11, 2016 20:14
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beuges posted:Is there a point to using EMET
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Dec 11, 2016 21:40
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If for your first question you are asking, is Windows 10 with EMET more secure then a Windows 10 machine that doesn't use EMET, then yes it is. For your second question, I dunno ask Microsoft. Microsoft already came out and said that EMET was pointless to use with Windows 10 because 10 had all the mitigation features built into it making it redundant, but this was quickly debunked by other experts concluding that EMET still has its uses. http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/24/microsoft-windows-10-emet-unnecessary/
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Dec 11, 2016 21:40
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Im_Special posted:If for your first question you are asking, is Windows 10 with EMET more secure then a Windows 10 machine that doesn't use EMET, then yes it is. For your second question, I dunno ask Microsoft. Microsoft already came out and said that EMET was pointless to use with Windows 10 because 10 had all the mitigation features built into it making it redundant, but this was quickly debunked by other experts concluding that EMET still has its uses.
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Dec 11, 2016 21:54
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I'll be updating the thread to reflect changes in EMET. That said, if OpenBSD is a consideration for use as an OS, this thread is likely not for you.
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Dec 12, 2016 00:47
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OSI bean dip posted:I'll be updating the thread to reflect changes in EMET. That said, if OpenBSD is a consideration for use as an OS, this thread is likely not for you. Not to endorse it, but whats wrong with OpenBSD?
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Dec 12, 2016 00:56
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RFC2324 posted:Not to endorse it, but whats wrong with OpenBSD? 
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Dec 12, 2016 00:57
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RFC2324 posted:Not to endorse it, but whats wrong with OpenBSD? It is like suggesting that someone learns ASM as their first programming language when Python or C++ is a better suggestion. I run OpenBSD but never recommend it openly because it is not like using Ubuntu or FreeBSD.
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Dec 12, 2016 01:05
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OSI bean dip posted:It is like suggesting that someone learns ASM as their first programming language when Python or C++ is a better suggestion. I learned C as my first language and recommended everybody do as well. 
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Dec 12, 2016 01:06
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OSI bean dip posted:It is like suggesting that someone learns ASM as their first programming language when Python or C++ is a better suggestion. Oh ok lol. I was confused since i have only heard good things other than a lack of user friendly
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Dec 12, 2016 01:42
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I have a Win7 laptop that a relative dumped in my lap to 'fix' as a favour. He thought it had been slammed with chinese ransomware. Turns out it's just a butt-load of chinese spyware that takes over the screen with popups. The problem is that it slows down the computer so much that it's completely unworkable. The computer is normally good enough to do regular office/school stuff on, but now, I can't even clean the spyware out because it takes more than half an hour to open File Explorer to launch the .exe of the ad cleaner tool I had put on a USB. So I think I would need some kind of ad/spyware cleaner that I could run on boot from a USB to get rid of all this garbage. Is there any tool like that around?
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Dec 17, 2016 11:16
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why are you not just wiping the whole thing and reinstalling windows?
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Dec 17, 2016 11:20
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Bisse posted:I have a Win7 laptop that a relative dumped in my lap to 'fix' as a favour. He thought it had been slammed with chinese ransomware. Turns out it's just a butt-load of chinese spyware that takes over the screen with popups. There's a few tools like that. Bitdefender Rescue CD: http://www.bitdefender.com/support/how-to-create-a-bitdefender-rescue-cd-627.html Windows Defender Offline: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17466/windows-defender-offline-help-protect-my-pc Just to name two. But if you value your time you should really just consider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
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Dec 17, 2016 11:27
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c0burn posted:why are you not just wiping the whole thing and reinstalling windows? Doing this is an excuse not to go christmas shopping in hell-on-earth outlet stores.
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Dec 17, 2016 11:32
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Bisse posted:Looks like the windows license key doesn't support it. It's tied to Asus so only Asus Approved Shenanigans are allowed such as restoring from an earlier restore point, which worked for about 3 seconds before the chinese garbage-ware woke up from hibernation. So I would need to make it happen without a license key, not that that's not possible but I'll see if I can avoid it first.
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Dec 17, 2016 14:44
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anthonypants posted:What are you using to get the license key off of the machine? Does magical jellybean still work?
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Dec 17, 2016 16:01
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RFC2324 posted:Does magical jellybean still work?
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Dec 17, 2016 16:05
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Nuke the thing and don't even consider trying to fix it.
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Dec 17, 2016 18:33
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OSI bean dip posted:Nuke the thing and don't even consider trying to fix it. This is the most sensible answer from both a security point of view and a "not driving yourself mad" point of view.
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Dec 17, 2016 22:49
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Bisse posted:Looks like the windows license key doesn't support it. It's tied to Asus so only Asus Approved Shenanigans are allowed such as restoring from an earlier restore point, which worked for about 3 seconds before the chinese garbage-ware woke up from hibernation. So I would need to make it happen without a license key, not that that's not possible but I'll see if I can avoid it first. If you can find the license key then you should be able to do a nuke and pave and install Windows 10 using the old license key. Should there be data recovery necessary first boot the laptop with a live Linux CD/thumb drive, copy the material off, then do the reinstall.
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Dec 17, 2016 23:15
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Bisse posted:Looks like the windows license key doesn't support it. It's tied to Asus so only Asus Approved Shenanigans are allowed such as restoring from an earlier restore point, which worked for about 3 seconds before the chinese garbage-ware woke up from hibernation. So I would need to make it happen without a license key, not that that's not possible but I'll see if I can avoid it first. Safe mode doesn't work, and they don't have the recovery media? What model laptop is this? If the key is in the BIOS you might be able to get recovery media from Asus for free or a pittance, and from there just flatten and reinstall. Segmentation Fault fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Dec 18, 2016 06:03
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The Windows key is on the back of the laptop. There is no recovery media because I don't know why there just isn't. Safe mode doesn't work because somehow the garbage-ware is launching anyway..! I'm gonna give the two options posted above a try, if they don't completely and immediately fix the issues i'm gonna blow this thing out and start fresh with Win10, if the license key doesn't work well hell then I guess my nephew is going to get introduced to the wonderful world of Linux.
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Dec 18, 2016 12:56
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Bisse posted:The Windows key is on the back of the laptop. There is no recovery media because I don't know why there just isn't. Safe mode doesn't work because somehow the garbage-ware is launching anyway..! Oh! If you have the key you're good to go. Go here, plug that key in, and download the installation ISO. From there you can burn it to a DVD or create an image on a USB stick and use that to flatten and reinstall. If there's stuff that's important pull it off with a Linux liveCD/liveUSB.
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Dec 18, 2016 19:01
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Segmentation Fault posted:Oh! If you have the key you're good to go. Go here, plug that key in, and download the installation ISO. From there you can burn it to a DVD or create an image on a USB stick and use that to flatten and reinstall. If there's stuff that's important pull it off with a Linux liveCD/liveUSB.  ASUS more like ASUCKS. Not sure if this means Win10 will fail with this key or not. Bisse fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Dec 18, 2016 21:43
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Bisse posted:
Trying Windows 10 is still worth a try - from what I've read people are still able to use Windows 7 keys to activate it even though the "free upgrade" ended. If not, this site mirrored all the Digital River Windows 7 ISOs before Microsoft closed it down, so you should be able to download a legit one from there: http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/
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Dec 18, 2016 22:33
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You probably don't need to go through all that hassle. Just download and use the win10 media creation tool, or download the ISOs if you're not on a recent windows OS, at this link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 Use the win7 key in the installer. e: If that doesn't work, then you can fall back to using the proper edition's win7 media to install 7 and then upgrade (from within win7) with the win10 tool/ISO. astral fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Dec 18, 2016 23:58
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I really think they should stick with Windows 7 so that they know there's working drivers for everything and so they aren't stuck providing tech support for a brand new operating system, but I guess that's just me.
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Dec 19, 2016 00:38
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Conclusion of our tale: Windows Defender surprisingly did the job and nuked the chinese adware which was rendering the computer unusable. From there, I was able to install Malwarebytes and then Bitdefender, they should have cleaned up most of the rest. I'll settle for that and letting Bitdefender chug on in the background, along with the general advice of don't open suspicious emails, don't download suspicious poo poo, change passwords, etc. Launched a VM to try out the windows key just out of curiosity - it didn't work on either Win7 or Win10. I guess i'm happy I didn't reformat the laptop after all. Thanks for the help folks, and don't forget to practice DIBB daily. (Don't Install BoBrowser)
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Dec 19, 2016 02:11
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I would never ever trust that computer. If you can find a way to flatten this, you should do so.
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Dec 19, 2016 02:38
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OSI bean dip posted:I would never ever trust that computer. If you can find a way to flatten this, you should do so. 
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Dec 19, 2016 04:11
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OSI bean dip posted:I would never ever trust a computer. If you can find a way to flatten them, you should do so. ftfy
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Dec 19, 2016 07:50
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The only post in this thread that is provably correct.
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Dec 20, 2016 01:51
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My grandma got scammed by some DriverUpdate scareware. I got rid of it but I'm wondering what the chances are that her credit card company will cancel the charge?
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Dec 22, 2016 22:14
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Pretty high, it's just a chargeback.
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Dec 22, 2016 22:39
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Ok that's good. The ironic thing is I probably never would have found out if the shitbag she talked to on the phone hadn't tried to scam $100 more out of her after she gave them $35.
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Dec 22, 2016 22:41
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