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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

inthesto posted:

To note, the awfulness of Singe's character design is largely covered up by the game's text boxes. Have an uncovered gander!



I don't even think he's wearing pants. :stonk:

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Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Night10194 posted:

I don't even think he's wearing pants. :stonk:

I think you're probably right, and this talk of a "tight heart-shaped shirt" is very much wishful thinking. There's no evidence to suggest Dragon Manager is wearing anything more than a lab coat.


Waffleman_ posted:

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games start with personality quizzes much like the beginning of this update to determine which Pokemon your character is.

I was curious about that, what was the point of all that question/answer in this game? It came across almost like character creation but there's no stats or anything, right? I mean, near as I can tell this game is just a few dozen blurry backgrounds, a few dozen weird portraits, massive blobs of JSON for the exhausting dialogue, and a few if statements. Does the personality quiz affect anything?

Mechanical Ape
Aug 7, 2007

But yes, occasionally I am known to smash.
Up till now the only characterization we've had a say in is our opinion of maid cafes. Now, in chapter 2, we're ambushed and bludgeoned with a questionnaire.

There were no opportunities in the Tokyo chapter to organically address such issues as "enjoys being with others" because I dunno fighting games.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

I think after the first update my eyes actively tried to avoid any shot of the characters. The technicolor rainbow that is this cast is miserable to try and look at.

Also I'm curious why the two chucklefucks didn't ask what Rabies' fursona is.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Brainamp posted:

Also I'm curious why the two chucklefucks didn't ask what Rabies' fursona is.
*~So you can self-insert yours!~*

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Night10194 posted:

I don't even think he's wearing pants. :stonk:

Oh my god I cant stop laughing


The not so subtle implication of no pants
The smug face
A heart shaped treasure trail
loving hilarity

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Dec 19, 2016

blankd
Mar 26, 2010
I want to make a joke about how he has a heart on his chest because he's actually a Heartless but we already have other worlds crossing and then I realized you're already hanging out in a lovely version of one of the FF worlds (the belts!) and I want this all to stop. :gonk:

geri_khan
May 16, 2009

Fucking blocks... I'm gonna climb the shit outta you!
Why did (what I believe was, I'm not reading back to check) official government immigration papers involve a half-assed personality test and not something that would identify you?

"I saw that immigrant, officer! He looked like a skeptical leader who would prefer to attack for the greater good!"
"Perfect. Joe, run that against the records."

Rahonavis
Jan 11, 2012

"Clevuh gurrrl..."

Brainamp posted:

Also I'm curious why the two chucklefucks didn't ask what Rabies' fursona is.

CommissarMega posted:

*~So you can self-insert yours!~*

geri_khan posted:

Why did (what I believe was, I'm not reading back to check) official government immigration papers involve a half-assed personality test and not something that would identify you?

"I saw that immigrant, officer! He looked like a skeptical leader who would prefer to attack for the greater good!"
"Perfect. Joe, run that against the records."

There's a solution to this problem that's so obvious I'm (not as) surprised (as I should be) that the writer didn't use it: we never see the player character anyway, so just have the player input their own species like they input their name. That way, you can play as a squirrel/wolf/lion/gryphon/dragon/dragon with a Care Bear tummy symbol "happy trail" :gonk: /Avian/Sergal/Chakat/Psychoraptor/your own Original Closed Species Donut Steel!

Rahonavis fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Dec 20, 2016

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

All the characters could be human and nothing would change. I don't think anyone's species is even brought up once in the game.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Blarghalt posted:

All the characters could be human and nothing would change. I don't think anyone's species is even brought up once in the game.

For that matter they could all be replaced with Garrett's sprite from the looks of things. That would probably make it easier to make it through an update at any rate...

Nick Buntline
Dec 20, 2007
Doesn't know the impossible.

Cathode Raymond posted:

I was curious about that, what was the point of all that question/answer in this game? It came across almost like character creation but there's no stats or anything, right? I mean, near as I can tell this game is just a few dozen blurry backgrounds, a few dozen weird portraits, massive blobs of JSON for the exhausting dialogue, and a few if statements. Does the personality quiz affect anything?

Obviously the fortuneteller must have died in one of the food riots, and British had to rope Shamino and Iolo into determining what class we are.

Having said that, the real question is clearly whether the Immortal King had an illegitimate child with the maid or with the nurse in this timeline.

Rahonavis
Jan 11, 2012

"Clevuh gurrrl..."

Blarghalt posted:

All the characters could be human and nothing would change. I don't think anyone's species is even brought up once in the game.

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

For that matter they could all be replaced with Garrett's sprite from the looks of things. That would probably make it easier to make it through an update at any rate...

That's all the more reason to make it "insert your own species".

In our case, go to DeviantArt and search for Closed/Original Species. Whichever result you find funniest or makes you the angriest is the species Rabies is. (I got Adorable Magic Glowing Fluffball. :sparkles:)

Rahonavis fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Dec 20, 2016

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Blarghalt posted:

All the characters could be human and nothing would change. I don't think anyone's species is even brought up once in the game.

I don't know if it's a bad thing, in this case.

The last thing this game needs to rip off along with what it already has is Zootopia.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Rahonavis posted:

That's all the more reason to make it "insert your own species".

In our case, go to DeviantArt and search for Closed/Original Species. Whichever result you find funniest or makes you the angriest is the species Rabies is. (I got Adorable Magic Glowing Fluffball. :sparkles:)

I'm glad I now know what a "closed species" is.

Dominicius
Dec 3, 2011
This game has the most boring assassins I have ever seen. In fact I doubt that the maker of the game even knows what an assassin is supposed to be and instead just dolled out the title randomly because it sounded cool. By all account those two are loving secretaries.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Lotta bureaucracy in the ol' Local Assassins 872

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Do you think we can talk the fuzzy sith knockoffs into purposely loving up a ritual to bring the blue Chipmunk I have already forgotten the name of?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

GeneX posted:

Do you think we can talk the fuzzy sith knockoffs into purposely loving up a ritual to bring the blue Chipmunk I have already forgotten the name of?

That would involve intentionally killing someone, which is probably against their Assassin code or whatever.

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010



What's going down in the Klacemobile?





I don't know what's more What The gently caress: how awkward a phrase like 'shocked back into coherence' is, or Dazz's character design. loving look at that poo poo.

Sorry -- I was a world away, there.

That's fine. I mean, given what happened and all.

Part of me is worried. And a part of me hates that I am...

I'm not worried for Klace though...And not even for those around him. I care more about our own careers.

Thaaaaaat's showbiz! :buddy:

Who will you play guitar for...? Who will I sing and dance alongside?

Forgive my foolishness...I should never have said that.

...

So far, every single person in this game is either completely batshit or totally unlikable.

There's no need to apologize. I thought the same things...A death is absolute. It can't be changed. What happens to us, however? Well -- it's malleable. Worry is normal.

Perhaps it is also partly denial...One of the steps we go through in grief.



Can we talk about how Dazz's abdomen is like three inches across? Is she wearing an invisible girdle or something?



This makes it sound like idols that Singe manages die fairly frequently.

I don't want to be like that. Emotion is what makes us truly alive. I bet they're talking about the tour...

They'll probably just address the press...And then forget that Klace even existed!

Good god I have never seen a writer abuse ellipses this much.



With that outfit, you're certainly becoming a flasher.

They're in a fast-paced business, Dazz. They need to roll with punches like this. You and I have time to adapt. But they'll be in the spotlight pronto. Also, they -were- talking about the tour.



Rocker knows what's going to happen: they are going to snort so much cocaine that Ozzie Osbourne will kick the door in and tell them to take it down a notch.

Maybe if I tell you -- you'll understand. Then maybe you can put this worry aside too.

Really?

Yeah. Singe is engaging in damage control. He needs to minimize any refund requests.





And this won't come across as a creepy cash grab profiting from Klace's death...how?

...That's extremely cold.



And this makes it seem like Singe's idols die regularly, and he has a habit of staging creepy memorial tours immediately afterwards.

I suppose. So -- a vigil, then? What's going to happen there?

Drugs, sex, Hell's Angels stabbing a dude to death in a port-a-potty, more drugs

Oh wait you meant the concert itself

Hmm...



Get ready for one of my "favorite" parts of the game!

Excuse me? Is that even relevant right now?

If you'll listen, I'd like to think so.

Very well...



Yepppp! For no reason, Rocker is dropping a creation myth on us.

Though one day, it flinched. It started to move -- like a cloud. And soon after that, like a hurricane.

It moved and moved. Some chaos rose to the top. The light. This created heaven -- or Takamagahara.

But some of the chaos was dark in nature. It wasn't worthy of ascending to heaven. It stayed at the bottom -- becoming Earth.

A Kami was born between the light and dark. A God known as "Ame-no-Minakanushi". Or -- "All-Father of the Originating Hub".

I'm sorry, I have to stop you there...I don't buy into this "religion" stuff.



'Spouting' is right. I don't remember Dazz asking you to dump this on her for no reason.

Are those not one and the same?

...Please allow me to continue. A large rainbow connected Heaven to Earth. It acted as a bridge between worlds. "Ame-no-Ukihashi" it was called.

And sometimes, Mario and company would race on it.



For Christ's sake, couldn't he have just said 'look up Japan's creation myth on Wikipedia." ?

Earth was still a puddled mass of nothing. Izanagi and Izanami stood on the bridge...They looked down at this nothing in awe.

Izanagi was gifted a spear from Minakanushi. He thrusted this spear into the dark puddle. Upon pulling it out -- it started dripping.

These drops stayed on the surface...They formed the islands of Japan. The first land mass on Earth was born.

They were tasked with descending the bridge. They went down and finished creating Earth.

Izanagi engaged in a purification ritual. He washed away all of his impure aspects. And he used them to aid in the creation.

Please stop talking.



Our planet is made from the dead flesh of gods! :black101:



Marvel at Klace's expert use of dashes grinding up against one another.



The more I look at Dazz, the more her character design makes me eyes bleed. Ignoring her super-thin waist, her neck also looks like its barely thicker than a straw.

How does this relate to the tour -- or us?

I'm about to get to that.

Singe is altering the entire tour. It will be a re-telling of this story. The set list will symbolize this creation.

Why? Nobody outside Japan will get any of these references.

Actually, you know what? The loss of his biggest idol has just driven Singe insane. He's probably locked Jade in the room with him so he can duel her for the Galactic Pancake Championships.



This sounds like a how-to guide on how to piss off the families of every single murder victim.

Hmm...Elaborate. I didn't think Singe would do that much. Now I feel bad for assuming what I did.

Singe is currently interrogating a throw pillow with a candy cane to learn its secrets, so maybe your initial judgement was sound.

It's okay. You didn't know.

So...Will we perform covers, then? Of Klace's hits, and other relevant songs?

You got it. But then you come in. The tour will end with a special surprise.

A special surprise?

Yes -- an announcement from you. You'll be taking over the world tour. You'll be headlining, Dazz!



Why isn't Singe telling her this himself? :psyduck:

Something more, huh...?

Yes. We'll be saying goodbye to Klace. And welcoming a new idol to the world.

I suppose I should be honored.

Being enormously creeped out is also a valid reaction.



Thanks Rocker, never would have guessed you'd be the guitarist.

Thanks...

But I'm not sure about Shock. Him and Klace are childhood friends. He may take this harder than any of us.

:v: "Hey Shock, we're capitalizing on the death of your best friend! Hope that's alright!"



Getting a creation myth vomited on you takes a lot out of a girl.



Exposition is a hell of a workout.





Yes he is, and it's all your fault.





Funds toward soup kitchens, I hope. The constant bread riots are starting to worry people.





Here's a character that has a name but I only refer to as Bojack Horseman.



Also Dusk looks like he was traced directly from Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron.

This is excellent news.

Excellent? Shouldn't he be pissed that Konrad and Endymion are wasting time instead of bringing Rabies right to him?

They should be here within the day. Unless there are any unforseen delays.

Thank you for informing me. You've done a wonderful job, Dusk. I am informed -- and my treasury is full.

I do as any loyal citizen would. Your flattery honors me.

Please await their arrival at the gate. I have some matters to attend to in private.

Of course.

Hmm...I suppose it was about time. I need to prepare myself for what's to come.

Reiyo? You can come out now.



It's Furry Outsider! I can't get over how his shirt looks like it's tied together with shoelaces.

I did not call you here to insult me.

Right. I apologize, Master.

I wanted to thank you.

Thank me...?

Yes. Things are going as we planned. I don't believe we are under suspicion.

It is going well, indeed.

4.





At least we find out why his blurry throneroom has two seats. Does nobody ever ask why or does he just lie about it?



Klace couldn't even bothered to find an image for this part, huh?





Besides the famine plot point that came up earlier, lines like this really start to drive home that Terra's kind of a shithole and Velasquez isn't a very good king. Don't worry, there's tons more evidence that piles up later on.



I spy with my little eye, at least six people dying from cholera.



Okay that guy over there just coughed up a lung.



And we just walk by a mugging in progress.



Did anyone just hear the death rattle of a homeless person?

We turn a few more corners. So much turning. I'm surprised we haven't ended back up where we started. They mentioned we were going to a tavern. "The Wayfarer's Tavern". For at least two reasons. To submit my immigration papers -- and check their mail.

Aren't those both things that absolutely could wait until we go see Velasquez?

Part of me wishes I could have come here on my own. Instead -- I'm being dragged around by these two.

I'm not sure if coming to this planet alone is a great idea. There is a non-zero chance that the gangs around here engage in cannibalism.

Maybe I could have enjoyed the sights if I did. Instead of being taken on a "major mission" right away. It seems that I'm working on everyone else's schedule.

I still haven't been able to fully relax. Not on Earth -- and definitely not on Terra.

Of course, before I can continue thinking -- they stop. I come crashing into both of their backs embarassingly.



I ping-pong between Konrad having a cockney accent or the most annoying surfer dude voice imaginable.



At least then you'd actually kill somebody.

Either way. I didn't mean to cause a scene. I only meant to turn and address you. I thought I should explain things more. We're not just here for your papers.

I was wondering about that, actually. "Checking their mail" seemed like it could wait.





FOR gently caress'S SAKE

YOU'RE ASSASSINS

KILL HIM

KILL HIM



YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO STAB HIM

JUST MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN ACCIDENT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



I object to this statement.

The mercenary Caylen was promptly arrested. We believe the servant Kabu was as well. However, Caylen's goal is to planet evidence. Evidence we will uncover during a "visit".

And who the hell are you going to report it to? Remember guys, your very existence is supposed to be a secret.





This plan seems unimaginably convoluted.

I barely realize it, but we've started walking again. I must've been too engulfed in the talking to notice.

Having Plair's trust is a major aspect. We're free to make a "startling discovery". Just as soon as Caylen plants the evidence?

Wouldn't it be about a hundred times easier to plant the evidence yourself, especially since Plair apparently trusts you?



5.

We're definitely in his good books. We'll be able to continue unhindered. We couldn't hand you to Plair, however. We needed you to blend in with everybody. This is why we're taking you to the tavern.

So, along with handing in your papers? We're hoping we got mail from Caylen. Then we can further plan the Plair scenario.

If Rabies is the first person you've actually brought to the tavern to fill out the immigration forms, that in itself is gonna be suspicious as all hell.

Endymion and Konrad stop in their tracks again. But this time, it's because we've arrived at the tavern.

Rabies? Once we get inside, keep a low profile. Try not to arouse any unwanted attention.

You mean don't shout and scream about being kidnapped? Tall order.

We can't have any conflict inside. Take it from me -- this place is busy. There are people here from other worlds. Try not to stare, if you can do one thing. They don't take too kindly to prying eyes.

And here's the game's one explanation for why there's absolutely no unity of design between any of the characters.



I can already smell the seats caked in blood and vomit! :v:

Blarghalt fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Feb 16, 2017

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Why the gently caress does nobody wear an actual shirt in this universe!? :psyduck:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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PUT IT IN THE TEA

THEY'LL DRINK IT

PUT IT IN THE T

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I read the first update, skipped to this one, and now I think I'm having an aneurysm. What the gently caress is this. I am genuinely angered by this stupid loving game.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Pollyanna posted:

I read the first update, skipped to this one, and now I think I'm having an aneurysm. What the gently caress is this. I am genuinely angered by this stupid loving game.

Lemme just summarize this thread for you:

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Pollyanna posted:

I read the first update, skipped to this one, and now I think I'm having an aneurysm. What the gently caress is this. I am genuinely angered by this stupid loving game.

How dare you just skip over parts of this modern masterpiece! How ever will you grasp the subtlety and emotional impact of this story now that you've gone and spoiled the pacing that the author spent so much time to build?

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

How dare you just skip over parts of this modern masterpiece! How ever will you grasp the subtlety and emotional impact of this story now that you've gone and spoiled the pacing that the author spent so much time to build?

No gently caress that I read the stuff about the Japanese creation myth and that was enough to convince me that 99% of this game's dialogue can be cut out with positive impact on the story. Or maybe not, that's being too charitable.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Blarghalt posted:



Yes he is, and it's all your fault.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that nobody told this idiot his brother was dead, or that the author is insisting on using the language stylings of poorly-translated anime.

Blarghalt posted:

Either way. I didn't mean to cause a scene. I only meant to turn and address you.

This might be the most nonsensical statement so far.

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Pollyanna posted:

No gently caress that I read the stuff about the Japanese creation myth and that was enough to convince me that 99% of this game's dialogue can be cut out with positive impact on the story. Or maybe not, that's being too charitable.

That's the same as saying 99% of the game can be cut with positive impact. It is also true.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

The only loving reason Klace knows the creation myth of Japan is loving Persona 4 and I know it.

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

Waffleman_ posted:

The only loving reason Klace knows the creation myth of Japan is loving Persona 4 and I know it.

I've never played Persona 4; where does the myth get dropped in the game?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Blarghalt posted:

I've never played Persona 4; where does the myth get dropped in the game?

The protagonist's Persona is Izanagi and the true final boss is Izanami.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

Waffleman_ posted:

The protagonist's Persona is Izanagi and the true final boss is Izanami.

Spoilers!

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Waffleman_ posted:

The protagonist's Persona is Izanagi and the true final boss is Izanami.

No, you're thinking of Fursona 3.

Or was that the one where they fought the giant green penis?

Doseku
Nov 9, 2009
So are we supposed to believe that the god king is the good guy and Trump is the badguy? As far as I can tell at least trump isn't hiring assassins or trying to plant evidence. I don't really buy that the guy trying to overthrow the king is actually the villain of this piece.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Doseku posted:

So are we supposed to believe that the god king is the good guy and Trump is the badguy? As far as I can tell at least trump isn't hiring assassins or trying to plant evidence. I don't really buy that the guy trying to overthrow the king is actually the villain of this piece.

Well he is holding those two guys prisoner, which he may or may not be allowed to do. So thats one thing I guess. But yeah so far his greatest crime is that he doesn't think they should invite immigrants into the country during a nation wide food shortage.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Ikasuhito posted:

Well he is holding those two guys prisoner, which he may or may not be allowed to do. So thats one thing I guess. But yeah so far his greatest crime is that he doesn't think they should invite immigrants into the country during a nation wide food shortage.

He's (almost) the Mayor, which is one step below immortal God-King of the planet. He can do what he wants.

Just to remind everyone how stupid that is.

Anoia
Dec 31, 2003

"Sooner or later, every curse is a prayer."
This wasn't written by a furry, it was written by an alien.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

I love the highly successful and probably rich musician wondering what she could possibly do now that her vocalist is dead.

PoptartsNinja posted:

No, you're thinking of Fursona 3.

Or was that the one where they fought the giant green penis?

That was the one where homeless jesus summons death to destroy the world.

The giant green penis is in every SMT game.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
I'm the female character whose waist occupies less volume than one of her breasts.

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Black Mage Knight
Jan 25, 2012

stop biting my cape
So how is that jacket staying closed like that? I was going to suggest double sided tape but, you know, furry. Also that seriously is one of the worst designs so far, and it alongside one of the two other female characters are part of the steam logo for the game, because why? (people be horny is why)

Are they actually now trying to set up Furry Trump as the good guy in opposition to Velasquez or is this going the route of everyone in power being evil? Also what the hell was the point of the interlude with the band members aside from Klace trying to ram a loving creation myth down our throat out of nowhere and seemingly for no reason? Like, are any of those characters even important in any way? Also does Inumi just live in the limo, hidden somewhere?

I am actually surprised this game is getting only worse as it goes on. I expected it to have bottomed out and flatlined, but it finds a way to keep digging deeper.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I can't help but keep seeing how bad the character art is. Everything is just clashing neon colours and confusing anatomy where characters faces are somehow twisting in multiple different directions.

Also so far my favorite character is the horse guy who is trying to rock the business hoodie and gauntlets look.

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