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So one of my friends dropped this bomb on me today: I recommended a bunch of things she can do which one of my relatives did when she had breast cancer (different types of -ectomies, radiation, chemo, etc.). I was hoping for a discussion or to learn more about what is going on, since she has enough money to easily afford whatever treatment she decides on. I asked what her ideas are about it and she didn't reply for a while. Instead, she said this, which got me upset. I know it was the wrong thing to say at the moment, because stubborn people will become more stubborn, but... ugh..  There's nothing to say at this point. Thanks to 5000 years of duping peple, my friend will die a slow, painful death.
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Dec 19, 2016 04:23
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drat, that's really poo poo. Aren´t there some Chinese links about how TCM is garbage, like ex-Cultist poo poo but for their quackery?
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Dec 19, 2016 04:24
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Deceitful Penguin posted:drat, that's really poo poo. Studies have shown that the more facts you present to proponents of alternative medicine, the more resolute their resolve becomes.
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Dec 19, 2016 04:38
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 I'm the 999. And this was posted on reddit, saying it was in Shandong. 
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Blistex posted:Studies have shown that the more facts you present to proponents of alternative medicine, the more resolute their resolve becomes.
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Dec 19, 2016 04:51
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Blistex posted:Studies have shown that the more facts you present to proponents of alternative medicine, the more resolute their resolve becomes. Eh.
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Dec 19, 2016 04:58
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Haier posted:I think she's just ignoring it all. Some people deal with it this way, and there's not much anyone else can do until the person is ready to accept help or death.
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Dec 19, 2016 05:02
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Haier posted:I'm the 999. Is that as high as the measurement goes?
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Deceitful Penguin posted:That's why I mean excultist; sometimes they show reasoning and emotive things that facts don't. Actually, my argument doesn't really work in this instance, because it's in China, and TCM is not seen as a bunch of cooks. Also finding "excultists" isn't going to work in China, because they are seen as the cooks. The best argument is telling her to do both, and hopefully whatever TCM doctor she talks to doesn't say, "Ohh, western medicine is going to affect the results of the TCM, better be safe and only do the TCM".
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Dec 19, 2016 05:07
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Lazer Monkey posted:The thing with cancer is, 'ignoring it' albeit for a while is essentially choosing death.. Protip, if you go the ignoring route, go all the way. That means eschewing chemo for palliative care at the end.
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Dec 19, 2016 05:09
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How do healthcare payments work in China? Does the national health service prefer TCM over other treatments?
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Dec 19, 2016 05:16
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http://www.squarefoot.com.hk/haunted/ Look for the next best deal!
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Pirate Radar posted:How do healthcare payments work in China? Does the national health service prefer TCM over other treatments? What health service? There's some kind of subsidy system somewhere, but you pay out of pocket for everything.
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Is that as high as the measurement goes? The air quality here is something that weighs on my mind all the time, especially since my main hobbies involve being outside for hours at a time. Right now the temperature outside reads 93F/33C and it is sunny. I want to go out soon and not waste it, but the air particles are going to enter my lungs (only 112 right now, but still, it adds up over time of exposure). Blistex posted:and hopefully whatever TCM doctor she talks to doesn't say, "Ohh, western medicine is going to affect the results of the TCM, better be safe and only do the TCM".
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Fojar38 posted:I understand the electoral college my questions were mostly about how you guys can loving stand it We can't stand it but getting rid of it would require a constitutional amendment and that requires so much support to do I don't see how modern America passes an amendment about literally anything. Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Is that as high as the measurement goes? I think so. The scale used to peg at 500 until the Airpocalypse in Beijing, so they extended it up to 999 and now China's managed that. I don't see why you couldn't measure over 1000 but maybe at that point it doesn't loving matter except keeping score so why bother?
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Ceciltron posted:What health service? There's some kind of subsidy system somewhere, but you pay out of pocket for everything. Then the subsidy's what I meant, I don't know what to call it.
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Ceciltron posted:What health service? There's some kind of subsidy system somewhere, but you pay out of pocket for everything. You do pay out of pocket for minor things and for larger more complicated payments you can claim some sort of deductible but as far as I know the deductible has a limit of less than 100,000 RMB. So if you have anything super complicated and long term, you are still hosed. But man, small time procedures are cheap as heck. An X rays cost 120 RMB which is like 17 USD. Doctor's diagnosis is 15 RMB. Hospitals make money from phoney med sales and extra procedures which give doctors a kick back. It's a serious social issue like most social issues here in China  I think everyone is entitled to like 1000 or more so per month but that's peanuts.
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Dec 19, 2016 05:45
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I give you the best article ever https://realsport101.com/news/sports/nhl/andong-song-china-s-superstar Title: Andong Song: China's first NHL superstar? quote:Does Andong Song have what it takes to be China's first NHL defenseman? Closing question: Do you think that Andong Song can make it to the NHL? We went from "next superstar" to "what are the odds he ever makes the league?" in less than five paragraphs, impressive
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Dec 19, 2016 05:51
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China lost face yet again at the Shenzhen International Marathon The comments are something about genes and race being a factor here.
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Dec 19, 2016 05:55
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quote:At age ten he and his family moved to Oakville, Ontario China's plan to produce good hockey players.
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Fojar38 posted:I was questioning an American about some of the oddities of the US electoral system a few days back and this sentence was uttered almost word for word without a hint of irony and it triggered me immensely This person was probably glad Trump won. Haier posted:China lost face yet again at the Shenzhen International Marathon I'm pretty sure also growing up in and training in a country that's not covered in a semi-porous blanket of heavy metals and gutter oil steam also has something to do with it.
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Dec 19, 2016 06:05
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Haier posted:Things_that_have_never_happened_before.bmp Could you explain, I'm not getting it?
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Dec 19, 2016 06:22
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Haier posted:China lost face yet again at the Shenzhen International Marathon I thought the gold medalist was wearing a mask at the award ceremony and China has severely lost face...it turned out I am just a racist.
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Dec 19, 2016 06:30
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Blistex posted:Could you explain, I'm not getting it? whatever7 posted:I thought the gold medalist was wearing a mask at the award ceremony and China has severely lost face...it turned out I am just a racist. There was also a 6km walk/jog that was filled with every old person.
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Dec 19, 2016 06:41
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Haier posted:Just that most TCM doctors will never admit that anything else could work as well as, or better, than TCM, because then people might wise up and stop giving them money for what is basically salad left-overs in a pill. The last TCM doctor I spoke to fully admitted that she thinks Chinese are a different species of human, and therefore "Western" medicine doesn't work on them, and TCM doesn't work on non-Chinese. I know this isn't uncommon in Asia generally--apparently it's a challenge for pharmaceutical marketers to convince Japanese consumers that Western pills will also work on Japanese people.
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The Great Autismo! posted:I give you the best article ever
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I'm the thumbs up http://i.imgur.com/aSoKi7b.gifv
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Is this fake? http://i.imgur.com/YEER78u.gifv
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Dec 19, 2016 07:11
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Well there's some western medicine that seems to be catching on? http://bloom.bg/2h0VMrO OxyContin Boom Is a Gold Mine for This Drugmaker excerpt: quote:In April, Jiang Chuying, a 41-year-old textile worker and cancer patient, first took a 10 milligram OxyContin tablet, for leg and back pain. By late July, she was consuming 60 pills daily, each at four times the initial strength.
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Nice bus driver, shame they don't have kneeling buses standard there?
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Didier Drogba was told once that in China they considered him to be a reincarnation of an ancient god. They called him “The Almighty” and he always remembers the reaction on his first training session after following Nicolas Anelka to the bags of gold at Shanghai Shenhua. Their new colleagues would “just stare in wide-eyed amazement at some of our moves, what we did in practice, how we played within a team”. Both players were drifting towards the end of their playing careers, but they were still vastly superior to all their team-mates. Which is probably what you would expect given that China’s solitary appearance in a World Cup came in 2002, losing all three games without scoring a single goal, and we are talking about the nation that is 83rd in Fifa’s latest world rankings, directly below Antigua and Barbuda and one above the Faroe Islands, whose combined population could fit into any Shanghai suburb with room to spare. It is certainly easy to understand why, after Graziano Pellč signed for Shandong Luneng, one football magazine carried a spoof interview from the Italian expressing his joy to be joining “what I presume to be a football club in China or thereabouts”. Pellč will apparently earn Ł34m in two and a half years, which breaks down to Ł260,000 a week, reputedly putting him in the top five best-paid footballers in the world, while leaving the firm impression that whoever runs Shandong hadn’t noticed the second L in his surname. Remember when Juninho joined Middlesbrough back in the 1990s in one of those transfers that seemed to shape English football? “Juninho will need to learn only three words of English: pound, thank you and bye bye,” Jan Aage Fjortoft, one of his new team-mates, said at the time. It is the same now in China and it did raise a smile when Ramires, on his way out of Chelsea earlier this year, insisted the huge financial incentives had not underpinned his transfer to the Chinese Super League. No, presumably every young boy from Rio de Janeiro grows up dreaming of playing for Jiangsu Suning, in the nation that has just lost a World Cup qualifier at home to Syria – a country, you might imagine, that has other things on its mind than putting out a football team. Oscar, an increasingly peripheral figure at Chelsea, is the latest to be tempted and, however much his impending Ł60m transfer to Shanghai SIPG is dressed up, it is difficult not to think it deeply unsatisfying to see someone of his age abandoning any real sense of ambition and, without wishing to be too cruel, a certain amount of respectability. At 25, he is approaching what should be the greatest years of his career, even if it seems apparent they will not be with his current club. He is also exceedingly rich already, most people would assume, after four and a half years on Chelsea’s payroll, and surely talented enough to attract potential buyers from Europe’s top leagues. Good luck to him, I suppose, but however many noughts are added to his salary, I do wonder how much job satisfaction there can be for a footballer with his gifts at a level several rungs down even from Major League Soccer. If that sounds slightly harsh, the reality is we are probably just going to have to get used to players heading that way, judging by the mind-boggling amounts on offer, and presumably it won’t be too long before a high profile English footballer is added to the number. Wayne Rooney has already had one offer and, though it didn’t get very far at all, he hasn’t completely ruled out the idea of China even if, money aside, he hasn’t heard too much that is appealing. Rooney’s advisers went on a fact finding mission to China last spring and reported back that the pitches were appalling, the standard as bad as everyone thought, and the referees even worse, in a league blackened by tales of match-fixing and bribery. Rooney might also remember Manchester United’s pre-season friendly against FC Shenzhen in Macau in 2007 and what came out, four years later, about the referee taking 100,000 Hong Kong dollars (roughly Ł8,000) to fix the coin toss. Yet the key detail is what a climb-down it would be, football-wise, for someone whose career has been spent at the high end of the Premier League. The money is sensational but, to remember the old Rodriguez song, a monkey in silk is still a monkey. The difference between Rooney and Oscar is that one is skidding towards the end of a rapidly decelerating career whereas the other should be five or six years away from the point where he might be thinking about one last payday. That is the shame of it all, why Jamie Carragher has called it embarrassing and why, unless there is a late change of heart, it feels like such a waste that a super-rich footballer would follow the yuan rather than stay in Europe and play in the competitions that really matter to the people in his profession. Yaya Touré is often accused of being driven by ego and money – mostly, it ought to be said, because of a particularly dislikable agent, rather than the player himself – but it is not widely known the Manchester City midfielder turned his back on one offer from China last summer that would have earned him, after tax, Ł360,000 per week. Touré simply decided he was already an extremely wealthy man, that he would earn huge wages anyway and that, at the age of 33, he still wanted to be involved in a competitive league rather than one where its star imports counted their dosh but, in sporting terms, found little satisfaction. Rio Ferdinand was the same when he left Manchester United and had money-spinning offers from teams in China, the Gulf and the United States. He opted for QPR and hopefully Alexis Sánchez will also decide that life in London is preferable for a category-A footballer now he is a target of China. Sánchez could feasibly earn Ł400,000 a week but it would be disappointing, in the extreme, if it turns out we have misjudged him and he decides the higher salary would be better for him, career-wise, than earning millions with Arsenal instead. To give him his due, there is nothing to suggest that is the case, but not everyone thinks the same, plainly. Alex Teixiera could have moved to Liverpool before pitching up at Jiangsu Suning. Gervinho, Ezequiel Lavezzi, Demba Ba, Papiss Cissé, Jackson Martínez and Hulk all now play in the country where Paul Gascoigne once had a two-week trial at one club – “The name escapes me now,” he wrote, rather brilliantly, in his autobiography – and a brief spell at Gansu Tianma. In Oscar’s case, he has clearly been shunted to the edges at Chelsea since Antonio Conte took control, and the natural comeback in these kind of debates is to ask how many people in any walk of life would say no to trebling their wages – for the Brazilian, increasing his salary to Ł350,000 a week. All the same, Arsčne Wenger made a good point recently, discussing Arsenal’s contract negotiations with Sanchez, when he said the Premier League’s top players were hardly on a pittance anyway and needed to be careful about getting their priorities in the wrong order. “I believe personally, and maybe I am a bit naive, that it’s more about getting to meet the player’s needs … the way the club has values, the way the club has ambition, the way the club respects the players,” Wenger said. “The money is good everywhere for everybody.” Maybe I am a bit naive, too, but I cannot help agree. Oscar is too good for China. It is no place for any footballer with genuine ambition and surely, if he has to leave Chelsea, he could find another club that allows him to be a multimillionaire, with everything done for him and all the superstar’s accessories, in a country where the sport is not a national embarrassment. China’s defeat to Syria in October finished with swarms of people protesting on the streets, just as they did in 2013 after the national team lost 5-1 against a Thai youth side and their Spanish coach, José Antonio Camacho, resigned in disgrace. China’s president, Xi Jinping, has made it clear he wants to start the country’s rise as a football power, meaning the sport is now a compulsory part of the national curriculum and tens of thousands of new pitches are being created, but it will take many years before they catch up. The wages are out of this world but they probably have to be because any top-level player heading to China might just find this is the point when the rest of football stops taking their careers seriously. I would blow Dane Cook fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Truck tries to miss baby truck, falls on baby truck. Fin. I guess NSFW, because death is implied but not seen.code:
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah there's a lot of different stuff that I can at least sort of get when I think about it, but this is one of those areas where I just can't. I know this kind of national/racial pride is a thing and I can see the effects, but actual understanding of what it means to feel that way? Zero. The idea of taking pride in something someone else did because they look like you or come from the same place just doesn't compute. Beep boop what is this thing hoo-mans call group identity
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Haier posted:China lost face yet again at the Shenzhen International Marathon All the best male marathon runners are African, so in this instance they are pretty much correct
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nickmeister posted:It must be a strange feeling to have such a strong feeling of "national pride" that you're willing to give up everything that you know to be objectively better in order to try to pass that on to your offspring. It's a refreshing change from my chinese coworkers who went to amazing desperate lengths to get relocated to a US branch (even taking pay cuts) and immediately bought a house and brought relatives, but then constantly talk on internal mailing lists with other chinese expats about how powerful china is and how proud they are of their 5000-year culture. Dissonance rather than hypocrisy. Deceitful Penguin posted:I think the kid will be fine. There's nothing like familiarity breeding contempt and he's going to think of how loving baller Canada was and how utterly poo poo China is and when he returns to Canada he will be glad for it. The kid is still young enough that he's going to be heavily indoctrinated in Face Culture by classmates/neighbors/relatives/etc (rather than just his parents in Canada) and at that point there's no saving him.
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so china is a smelly shithole where everybody is retarded and thinks taiwan belongs to them? why hasnt trump nuked them already...? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Grand Fromage posted:I know this kind of national/racial pride is a thing and I can see the effects, but actual understanding of what it means to feel that way? Zero. The idea of taking pride in something someone else did because they look like you or come from the same place just doesn't compute. Yeah when people are discussing local sports teams and use the term "we" about the team's performance....I don't get it. I can't even figure out the mindset for it.
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THE PWNER posted:All the best male marathon runners are African, so in this instance they are pretty much correct If's been uears since i ran (or followed running) seriously but it's far more specific than that. They're all Kenyan, and nobody's exacy certain why Kentans are mad good, but theories tend to revolve around living at high altitude.  the truth is they're dirty as gently caress, just like every other world class
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