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GlyphGryph posted:I'm going a little crazy not being able to go to any meetings or poo poo this month, I want to be out there doing poo poo. I've been to some meetings and did some volunteer work for the runoffs, but I feel like there's gotta be something more I can do. The next meeting for any of the Wilco clubs/parties isn't for nearly 3 weeks, so I've suddenly gone from going to several meetings a week to crickets. Regarding the Alpine County Democrats, it looks like their website no longer exists, unfortunately. The California Dems site has their phone # listed as (530) 694-9691 and email as kylescabin@gmail.com. Their facebook page had a post saying they were meeting on Nov 15th, so if they're anything like here that would presumably mean "third tuesday", which would be in 4 days. I'm gonna send an email to that address and see if I can get anything for you, but the person looking might need to send them a message on facebook (I don't actually have a facebook account, so...).
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I'll try the Facebook, thanks. I've been thinking that what I should do, personally, is join some sort of group or platform where I can do... writing, I guess? Get the word out, start helping organize and energize beyond the confines of a dead gay comedy forum, maybe start working on some local social good programs like soup kitchens and stuff if I can find a way to make that politically relevant.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:14 |
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Probably the best thing we can be doing in the short term is calling Dem party members and getting them to support Ellison, cutting the legs off of Perez's run early. Everything we're doing in this thread is for naught if we can't get a DNC chair that recognizes the value of building strong local grassroots support for the party.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:37 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Probably the best thing we can be doing in the short term is calling Dem party members and getting them to support Ellison, cutting the legs off of Perez's run early. Everything we're doing in this thread is for naught if we can't get a DNC chair that recognizes the value of building strong local grassroots support for the party. Reminder, this exists: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S7w8tvS0NWA3AX8JdFjZLLAW7f_S4hp2T3416ttjBtg/edit#gid=0 Contacts list for who you should be contacting.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:45 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Probably the best thing we can be doing in the short term is calling Dem party members and getting them to support Ellison, cutting the legs off of Perez's run early. Everything we're doing in this thread is for naught if we can't get a DNC chair that recognizes the value of building strong local grassroots support for the party. Why are you assuming Perez is against strong local grassroots? Just because Obama likes him?
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:52 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Why are you assuming Perez is against strong local grassroots? Just because Obama likes him? ellison knows how to rally the democratic base, perez not so much
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GlyphGryph posted:Reminder, this exists: New York is just question marks. Where can I look this information up so I can fill it in?
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:54 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:ellison knows how to rally the democratic base, perez not so much But what makes you say that? Personally, I think the party will do about the same under either. People overestimate what the DNC chair can actually do.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:55 |
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Trabisnikof posted:People overestimate what the DNC chair can actually do.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 20:59 |
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It's good to have more than one possible chair. I like Ellison, but there is no guarantee he will be allowed to stay on past 2020.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:02 |
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Segmentation Fault posted:New York is just question marks. Where can I look this information up so I can fill it in? If you can answer that we'd all be happy. I tried talking to my local party about it but it didn't work(the person who took the call didn't know), and that information is nowhere on any website any of us looked at.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:02 |
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The chair gets a four year term right? or no term?
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:03 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:if your benchmark of what the DNC chair can actually do is debbie wasserman schultz and not howard dean (granted, he was operating under the world of realpolitik which turned out to not make any loving sense at all come the tea party) i can see how you can think that No even under Dean, I would say he wasn't that powerful. As much as liked the 50 state plan, his DNC never actually implemented it. The DNC chair is important, but to me, I'm far more worried about this being a nasty DNC fight rather than who actually wins. Democrats don't have the time or power to spare on infighting and bickering. Like if we have people later saying "yeah but you supported ____ for DNC chair" as an insult we're hosed.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:04 |
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Trabisnikof posted:But what makes you say that? plus perez's race baiting bernie as the "white candidate" left a bitter taste in a lot of mouths here Trabisnikof posted:No even under Dean, I would say he wasn't that powerful. As much as liked the 50 state plan, his DNC never actually implemented it. Anime Schoolgirl has issued a correction as of 21:10 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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GlyphGryph posted:Reminder, this exists: So what do we do when we contact? Ask to speak with the DNC official?
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:08 |
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The problem with Perez isn't his ideology, it's his experience. The DNC needs to completely rethink the way it supports local parties and builds grassroots support, which is something Ellison is running on and Perez has no experience with. Perez's entire campaign is just him taking Ellison's ideas and hastily saying "me too", which says to me that he has no real ideas or plans moving forward and is just running because the Obama camp wants someone from their circle in charge instead of an outsider. There's nothing that Perez brings to the table that isn't being offered already by Ellison in a more competent and energizing way.
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:09 |
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You've said your pieces, I think this is a good place to drop it. If you want to have a more in depth discussion about it, see the Dem Thread. You both seem to agree supporting Ellison is the right course of action, even if you're reasons differ - try to stay results oriented and not end up quibbling over motivations. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 21:13 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:So what do we do when we contact? Ask to speak with the DNC official? These should be the contacts for the DNC officials. If it's not the person on the list, ask to speak with them and if you can't, pass a message. Then ask them if they are supporting Ellison, and if they aren't already ask them to do it. I'm not much of a persuasion person, so anyone with better advice can feel free to provide it.
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GlyphGryph posted:These should be the contacts for the DNC officials. If it's not the person on the list, ask to speak with them and if you can't, pass a message. Then ask them if they are supporting Ellison, and if they aren't already ask them to do it. So to be clear, it is ok to organize for Ellison in this thread but not any other DNC candidate?
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:13 |
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Trabisnikof posted:So to be clear, it is ok to organize for Ellison in this thread but not any other DNC candidate? If you want to suggest people do things to support Perez, that is okay. Go ahead. If you want to make a (preferably single) post about why Perez is good and people should support him, that's mostly fine too. Getting into an extended back and forth over which one of them is better is not - we have a thread for that. Refine your arguments there, condense them to a single post, and add your call to action here if you feel you must. But don't argue over stupid bullshit, and note that you are not the only one I quoted in that response. Provide the information you think is best and useful, provide more if people request, and then stop instead of risking drowning out more relevant information. From the OP: quote:If you disagree with someone, that's fine, but try to remember the point is to convince people they want to be involved, not to drive them out, so stay specific and don't draw it out. If you're not posting as part of an attempt to get people more involved and getting them to act, don't post. At least not here. GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 21:23 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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GlyphGryph posted:These should be the contacts for the DNC officials. If it's not the person on the list, ask to speak with them and if you can't, pass a message. Then ask them if they are supporting Ellison, and if they aren't already ask them to do it. "Hello [BLANK]. My name is OhFunny and I'm calling today to ask you support Kieth Ellison as DNC Chairman. I feel very strongly that Representative Ellison is the best choice to lead the DNC going forward, due his experience in organizing and winning grassroots campaigns in Minnesota; and that his strong support for American workers exactly the message the Democratic Party needs to adapt going forward to appeal to those voters who feel frustrated; and left behind as income inequality rises across this country." Read it aloud until you can say comfortably and naturally. Tweak as you wish.
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I made this as a start for what to do - I'll edit it with OhFunny's line, anything else?
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# ? Dec 16, 2016 21:35 |
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So I tried filling out the forms for CT Dems, looking for events on their websites, etc. Nuthin'. Anyone have any advice? I have local political connections, but they're mostly Republicans due to family history.
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# ? Dec 17, 2016 00:52 |
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Had a good talk with the chair of the Arizona Party. Her priority is 50 state strategy. She's receptive to Keith Ellison and says she's talked to him one on one. Her real issue is finding out what that actually translates to in reality. What is Keith Ellison's actual plan. The other 3 electors for AZ have already been chosen, they have 4 year terms. I'll try to get in on that next time if possible. I've put my name in as interested in first Vice chair. Does anyone have any ideas on inexpensive or free options for online meeting spaces. Stuff like WebEx or Google Hangouts? I'd like to have a few options try them out and see if they're suitable for larger scales. I'd like to make it easier for people who live in the outskirts or are disabled to participate in democratic meetings, even if it means just setting up phone conferences or something.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Does anyone have any ideas on inexpensive or free options for online meeting spaces. Stuff like WebEx or Google Hangouts? I'd like to have a few options try them out and see if they're suitable for larger scales. I'd like to make it easier for people who live in the outskirts or are disabled to participate in democratic meetings, even if it means just setting up phone conferences or something.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Had a good talk with the chair of the Arizona Party. Her priority is 50 state strategy. She's receptive to Keith Ellison and says she's talked to him one on one. Her real issue is finding out what that actually translates to in reality. What is Keith Ellison's actual plan. Skype, GoToMeeting, Facebook, Discord. I'd definitely allow for both a software and phone-based call in method. I think the both Skype and GoToMeeting allow phones to call in to as well as software, so I'd suggest those.
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# ? Dec 18, 2016 02:36 |
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Here's a list of everyone with a vote in the DNC Chair Election. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18r1Q6ESE2umvyxeJ-oMhco-O5Tnf-Dm3v8bUovdVKVQ/edit#gid=0 Here's the info I could gather for Colorado. Rick A Palacio States- Colorado CO 719-671-4784 Michael F Hamrick States- Colorado CO Beverly Benavidez Ryken States- Colorado CO http://www.coloradodems.org/people/beverly-ryken bryken@coloradodems.org Jeri D Shepherd States- Colorado CO http://sheplaw.net/ Phone: 970-396-9493 Alternate number: 970-673-4702 jeri@sheplaw.comcastbiz.net Terry L Tucker States- Colorado CO https://www.facebook.com/terrytucker2016/ 720-275-9536 terry.tucker1@comcast.net Ellen Rosenblum Groups- Attorneys General CO Blanca Uzeta O'Leary At-large CO https://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/blanca-uzeta-o-leary-304248 (970) 920-4969
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^^^^There's awesome. You're awesome. Here's New Hampshire contact information I could find: Martha Fuller Clark http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/members/webpages/district21.aspx Senate Office: (603) 271-3091 martha.fullerclark@leg.state.nh.us Home: (603) 498-6936 Billy Shaheen http://www.shaheengordon.com/Attorney-Profiles/William-H-Shaheen.aspx wshaheen@shaheengordon.com Kathleen Sullivan ??? I can't find a direct way to contact our former state chairwoman. She's an of counsel for law firm, so there's no info of her at their website. OhFunny has issued a correction as of 21:19 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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Started manually looking up info for DNC Voters for people who listed their state in this thread. So far I have AZ, CO, DE, GA, IL, KY, NH Here's the link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zOFAZA1StaQxmskjVGAexvMFnqLTnNgAWy8hl79hYfE/edit?usp=sharing If anyone feels like looking up info for their or other states I'm pulling my names from; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18r1Q6ESE2umvyxeJ-oMhco-O5Tnf-Dm3v8bUovdVKVQ/ ; Just make sure when you're looking up info that you're getting current info, a lot of the time when youre googling these people you might get campaign info vs current info. Ace of Baes has issued a correction as of 23:41 on Dec 18, 2016 |
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California: John Burton http://www.cadem.org/our-party/leaders/officers-and-regional-directors/john-burton john@cadem.org Steven K Alari ??? Becca Doten https://twitter.com/bdoten Twitter is all I got. Mary Ellen Early ??? Alexandra Gallardo Rooker http://www.cadem.org/our-party/leaders/officers-and-regional-directors/alexandra-alex-gallardo-rooker alex@cadem.org Alice A. Huffman ??? Aleita J Huguenin ??? Michael Kapp http://www.michaelkapp.com/contact (510) 717-8260 mdkapp@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/MichaelKappCA/ https://twitter.com/michaelkapp?lang=en Andrew Lachman https://twitter.com/andrewlachman?lang=en Just Twitter and a private blog. Barbara Lee https://lee.house.gov/contact Oakland Office: (510) 763-0370 DC Office: (202) 225-2661 Email only available to those who live in the Congresswoman's district. Otto O. Lee I'm unsure of this contact info as it's from a website for his 2012 run that he lost. I'd appreciate anyone who can verify it's still good. (559) 579-6994 contact@ottolee.org Sandra M. Lowe ??? Bob Mulholland https://www.facebook.com/bob.mulholland.77 https://twitter.com/Chico_Bob?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Christine Pelosi https://twitter.com/sfpelosi?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor https://www.facebook.com/christine.pelosi Just a note the name is misspelled in google doc as "Christie" and yes this is Nancy Pelosi's daughter. John A. Perez https://twitter.com/johnaperez?lang=en Melahat Rafiei ??? Susie A. Shannon https://www.facebook.com/susie.shannon.1 https://twitter.com/susieshannon Garry S. Shay http://shwhlaw.com/shwh/garry-s-shay/ (213) 816-2810 https://twitter.com/irishwarriordem Keith Umemoto https://nuwber.com/person/563a214f7686b0176bd2e8e4 (916) 429-2768 https://www.facebook.com/keith.umemoto Maxine Waters https://waters.house.gov/contact Email is restricted to those who live in the Congresswoman's district. Laurence S. Zakson ??? God Speed Cali goons
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OhFunny posted:
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# ? Dec 19, 2016 02:47 |
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Kentucky Sannie Overly http://www.lrc.ky.gov/legislator/h072.htm Home: 859-987-9879 Annex: 502-564-2217 Capitol: 502-564-2217 sannie.overly@lrc.ky.gov https://twitter.com/sannieo?lang=en Neville Blakemore https://www.facebook.com/neville.blakemore https://www.facebook.com/pg/BlakemoreforTreasurer/about/?ref=page_internal Call (502) 930-1781 nevilleb@gnbuilding.com Charlotte Lundergan https://www.facebook.com/charlotte.lundergan https://twitter.com/cclusa1 Nathan Gene Smith https://www.facebook.com/people/Nathan-Smith/1185318799
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i'm really pretty depressed over trying to help the dems here after trying desperately to figure something out just to find they have literally no way i could help them till 2017 at the earliest. i'm thinking about maybe making a site on heroku with the info on the DNC Chair election that you guys have uploaded in that google doc and maybe info on the candidates and who is voting for/endorsed who. would that be helpful?
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# ? Dec 19, 2016 09:41 |
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I guess Reddit already did this. hese people: National DNC Members - anyone can contact them! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9C_xdEm0ukPy5YuPVw7PDtHX-HmrsGG6aeJi6xezXA/edit?usp=sharing State DNC Members - contact those from states you live, work or study in. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16o7bkEEoXDhaLbXWoVI56n8PLERRG0BxDUd0wdZ2f-Q/edit?usp=sharing
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# ? Dec 19, 2016 09:57 |
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speaking of reddit, are there any worthwhile subreddits for Dem organizing?
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# ? Dec 19, 2016 10:07 |
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HorseRenoir posted:speaking of reddit, are there any worthwhile subreddits for Dem organizing? https://reddit.com/r/political_revolution Is where I got that list, I don't know if there's any good politics subreddits, but that one is better than their main one.
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# ? Dec 19, 2016 10:19 |
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I'm really interested in hearing ideas for policies/proposal/ballot initiatives that people want to see/try and pass or collect petition signatures for. Edit: Campaigning on a city level to raise minimum wage seems like a great way to build a voter base that cares about economic issues, and if you canvass and phonebank you could turn out whole bloc's of voters that normally would never show up to the polls, because they just don't care about politics, or see both parties as the same, because they'd have an issue they wanted to vote on, and while they're there, there (hopefully) gonna vote for the economic progressives on the ballot for house rep/senate/governor/etc. Ace of Baes has issued a correction as of 10:44 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Locally the only thing that seems to work to get infrastructure bills passed in my town is if they do it through the issue of municipal bonds. Dunno if people just like the idea of kicking it down the curb as far as payment, but if you wanna maybe be dirty about it and not wanna say, raise taxes as a means of paying for something, this is what works here.
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Ace of Baes posted:I'm really interested in hearing ideas for policies/proposal/ballot initiatives that people want to see/try and pass or collect petition signatures for. I've always seen marijuana legalization as a no-brainer way to get young progressives or apathetic but generally left leaning folks excited about voting, but maybe that's an oversimplification. Passes a gut instinct test for me, at the very least. Can even frame it similar to Colorado - good for schools / infrastructure / whatever common sense good thing funding.
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Crossposting from the Dem thread: I genuinely have no idea how useful this Northern VA session with Congressman Beyer will be, but I figure it's a starting point, so I'll be there. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-road-ahead-tickets-30466452981 Grey Fox has issued a correction as of 03:42 on Dec 21, 2016 |
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