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Concerned Citizen posted:perez is plenty qualified to be chair and i don't think labor needs him in the courtroom. The two jobs of the incoming DNC chair are pushing campaign reforms for the party so we can win elections, and picking the right people to execute those changes. I mean Perez seems like the right guy but I'd like to see some evidence he's qualified for either of those things. Ellison at least seems to have a good bit of experience with the first one.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:we could spend a few more pages pondering the nobility of the common juggalo or maybe we can just kinda agree that even if they're not some kinda crazy hate group ICP has spent most of its history talking about how they ain't faggots and they'll cut your head off, and then made a weird hyper crist conversion, and their gatherings tend to involve breaking lightbulbs over each other and spraying cheap soda into the crowd and that's hilarious? You guys do know the weird lionizing is just as patronizing and gross as going the other way, right? one of the biggest problems with studious socialists is that they don't regularly hang out with us, the dirtbags of america, enough
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:ahh cultural appropriation, that's an angle I haven't seen this thread taken before, thanks for the contribution what? Concerned Citizen posted:perez is plenty qualified to be chair and i don't think labor needs him in the courtroom. there are other great lawyers. i think, however, that he may be too vested in the way the dnc does things to be truly committed to carrying out the reforms needed to improve the party. if he's selected - fine, i think he will do some good stuff. but he isn't my first pick. I don't think anyone but crazy people think he isn't 'really' qualified or whatever, it's just more that when there are two qualified candidates, the one who has more experience in, say, winning elections in areas we just lost, is probably who you should back.
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Concerned Citizen posted:perez is plenty qualified to be chair and i don't think labor needs him in the courtroom. there are other great lawyers. i think, however, that he may be too vested in the way the dnc does things to be truly committed to carrying out the reforms needed to improve the party. if he's selected - fine, i think he will do some good stuff. but he isn't my first pick. I disagree very much on the "qualified to be chair" part. You can't head an organization whose goal is to get people elected if you have no actual experience on that front.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:we could spend a few more pages pondering the nobility of the common juggalo or maybe we can just kinda agree that even if they're not some kinda crazy hate group ICP has spent most of its history talking about how they ain't faggots and they'll cut your head off, and then made a weird hyper christ conversion, and their gatherings tend to involve breaking lightbulbs over each other and spraying cheap soda into the crowd and that's hilarious? You guys do know the weird lionizing is just as patronizing and gross as going the other way, right? Not really, most juggalos I've met agree that the traditions are dumb and hilarious, that's half of the fun.
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Obama is pushing Perez because its maybe the only thing he will have done in 8 years that survives into June 2017.
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:And then got duped for someone who pretty much had "status quo" printed on a bunch of cheap baseball caps. If they were so gullible as to be taken in by a brazen, lazy conman like Trump, it ought not have been that difficult to convince a sizeable number to instead vote for someone else who offered an appealing alternative option that would clearly benefit-oh right, Hillary.
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Like I don't doubt Perez's general competence at what he does but DNC chair is just the definition of a bad fit.
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:And then got duped for someone who pretty much had "status quo" printed on a bunch of cheap baseball caps. They are actually pretty good at political skullduggery just so you know, and it's a big part of how they got into this mess because it turns out they mostly used it to keep lovely people in power in safe seats and now a good chunk of the party is poo poo on the whole. I'm not saying they always gotta take the high road, I'm just saying your understanding of people is pretty poor.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:she had one? She's had four so far, more seem likely
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Honestly after thinking about it for a minute, juggalos are kind of a perfect way of describing whats wrong with idpol obsessed neo-liberals. They're a bunch of poor people who "liberals" look down on for not being proper or refined, and are criticized for the way they use language, but most juggalos have probably done more to help the impovershed/working class than the majority of the democratic party.
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Segmentation Fault posted:Tila Tequila turned out to be a neo-nazi so honestly this just proves that Juggalos are so antifa that they can smell it After she got brain damage.
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GlyphGryph posted:She's had four so far, more seem likely yeah, in washington. trump will have 0
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Ace of Baes posted:Honestly after thinking about it for a minute, juggalos are kind of a perfect way of describing whats wrong with idpol obsessed neo-liberals. They're a bunch of poor people who "liberals" look down on for not being proper or refined, and are criticized for the way they use language, but most juggalos have probably done more to help the impovershed/working class than the majority of the democratic party. okay reeeeel it in a little bit there, dude
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Al! posted:one of the biggest problems with studious socialists is that they don't regularly hang out with us, the dirtbags of america, enough Uh, yeah?
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GlyphGryph posted:She's had four so far, more seem likely hah. All I heard was someone tried to vote for the DAPL protestor lady, I figured they got replaced.
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Ace of Baes posted:Honestly after thinking about it for a minute, juggalos are kind of a perfect way of describing whats wrong with idpol obsessed neo-liberals. They're a bunch of poor people who "liberals" look down on for not being proper or refined, and are criticized for the way they use language, but most juggalos have probably done more to help the impovershed/working class than the majority of the democratic party. lol imagine being so up your own rear end you bitch about 'idpol' while insisting that Juggalos are inherently the heroes of the working man as an identity group
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Uh, yeah? yeah, call me back when you've vomited half a bag of funions and mad dog after riding abandoned tires down a hill in the woods all day
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paranoid randroid posted:any dem elector who puts forward a vote for someone like Colin Powell in the hopes of shaming the GOP should be stuffed in a locker My assumption would be they were hoping that Trump would be denied 270 somehow and they'd rather somebody like Colin Powell get 3rd place and be an option rather than like, Ted Cruz or Kasich.
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paranoid randroid posted:okay reeeeel it in a little bit there, dude Im not saying they're heroes, I grew up where they're from and can't stand 90% of them, Im just saying it's funny how well they parallel the rural working class with regards to the Democratic party.
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The guy who was offended that nobody wants to send government checks to support his art career, doesn't get why socialists should hang out with poor people.Al! posted:yeah, call me back when you've vomited half a bag of funions and mad dog after riding abandoned tires down a hill in the woods all day Ok! 
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Thoguh posted:My assumption would be they were hoping that Trump would be denied 270 somehow and they'd rather somebody like Colin Powell get 3rd place and be an option rather than like, Ted Cruz or Kasich. i think they may just be stupid, Thoguh
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like yeah theres something to be said for not treating no-hope rustbelt folks with reflexive contempt, but if youre putting juggalos up on a pedestal as anything other than a bunch of guys who want to smoke weed while listening to crappy music, youre goin a bit far in the opposite direction
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The guy who was offended that nobody wants to send government checks to support his art career, doesn't get why socialists should hang out with poor people. you're reading it exactly backwards
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Tatum Girlparts posted:hah. All I heard was someone tried to vote for the DAPL protestor lady, I figured they got replaced. They did not get replaced, and the vote has been counted. As were three votes for Colin Powell. Which means that she was the most effective third party candidate this year! (I'm guessing Powell counts as a Republican for this scenario)
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paranoid randroid posted:any dem elector who puts forward a vote for someone like Colin Powell in the hopes of shaming the GOP should be stuffed in a locker there's probably gonna be a pile of thinkpieces about these faithless electors but i think the main lesson here is that the elector selection process should be improved to prevent morons from getting selected
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If you egghead ivory tower elitists don't know how to spell Funyuns you'll never win America back
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The guy who was offended that nobody wants to send government checks to support his art career, doesn't get why socialists should hang out with poor people. imagine being so far up your own rear end you don't get that the dude you're mad at clearly agrees with you and is just making a joke about it, and then you weirdly get all bitchy about artists. GlyphGryph posted:They did not get replaced, and the vote has been counted. As were three votes for Colin Powell. hahaha colin powell, 2016 is the best
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paranoid randroid posted:like yeah theres something to be said for not treating no-hope rustbelt folks with reflexive contempt, but if youre putting juggalos up on a pedestal as anything other than a bunch of guys who want to smoke weed while listening to crappy music, youre goin a bit far in the opposite direction liberals talk about their love for the black panthers but sneer at juggalos when basically, they're the same thing.
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[Neoliberally] and you call these, ugh, "door-ee-toes?" I say....
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That DICK! posted:If you egghead ivory tower elitists don't know how to spell Funyuns you'll never win America back that dick, id ont know how to spell anything, please help me
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liberals pretend to think Malcolm X is a hero, but they don't even get that Shaggy 2 Dope is basically his reincarnation
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Concerned Citizen posted:perez is plenty qualified to be chair Yes, Perez is highly qualified to lead the Democrats to win elections, you can see this in the examples of the election campaigns he himself has run, such as
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If they were so gullible as to be taken in by a brazen, lazy conman like Trump, it ought not have been that difficult to convince a sizeable number to instead vote for someone else who offered an appealing alternative option that would clearly benefit-oh right, Hillary. It doesn't matter who we run in 2020 - another neolib diet republican or a firebreathing populist hero; Trump's still going to win because the right wing propaganda machine just proved they can turn ANYTHING into a scandal that resonates more clearly with the public than the candidates actual platform. The media isn't going to suddenly start doing their jobs, because they are in the business of ratings and ad revenue, not informing the electorate. Elections are not a contest of ideas anymore...it's a marketing campaign and nothing more. The average american doesn't give a poo poo about policy; they just want to watch nascar and gently caress a hole they cut into a bag of doritos and vote for the loudest candidate. But hey. at least you highroaders who are more concerned with winning the "right" way will be able to hold your heads high at the guillotines.
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