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eh worst parts are that our config is fundamentally hosed. no persistent conversations, broken chat rooms. completely useless
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skype for b doesn't do persistent chat.
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i've honestly never had any trouble with webex.
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Shaggar posted:you could install skype preview (for skype) which is a better chat client than normal skype for skype or skype for b Lmao that this is a post that needs to exist
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Dec 19, 2016 23:22
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Bloody posted:eh worst parts are that our config is fundamentally hosed. no persistent conversations, broken chat rooms. completely useless hello my life
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mishaq posted:hello my life
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Dec 19, 2016 23:57
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Bloody posted:a locally-hosted slack-like that i could deploy with no oversight from it would have a glimmer of hope but that's still prob not gonna happen hipchat is okay. not great. but okay. better than Skype for B which is trash garbage
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i was lamenting about webex during our weekly status meeting (we were trying to get a telepresence unit connected to our webex so we could use the webex line while still using telepresence and it just didn't loving work at all) and my coworker asked me "well, who's got it right then" and i said "nobody" i think i saw a look of realization in his eyes
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minivanmegafun posted:hipchat is okay. not great. but okay. better than Skype for B which is trash garbage I would have to coerce IT into deploying that. I keep hoping its coming as we use Jira and confluence more but so far no dice
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Dec 20, 2016 01:05
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minivanmegafun posted:hipchat is okay. not great. but okay. better than Skype for B which is trash garbage one time I was loving around with a ship's GMDSS station and I managed to establish a connection with a friend ~600 miles away over short wave, in the middle of the day that was still better than skype for business
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Dec 20, 2016 01:36
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no don't! hipchat is real bad and breaks in new ways if you use anything that isn't the web client.
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Dec 20, 2016 01:42
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webex heard earlier today: "lets just make it more whimsical and use the ceo's helicopter" "you mean his drone" "ew no, why would I want to see that again"
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Dec 20, 2016 01:43
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AAB posted:no don't! hipchat is real bad and breaks in new ways if you use anything that isn't the web client. clearly you've never used skype for business
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Dec 20, 2016 02:29
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AAB posted:no don't! hipchat is real bad and breaks in new ways if you use anything that isn't the web client. still sounds better than skype for business
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Dec 20, 2016 02:30
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I prefer to keep my messenger pigeons gainfully employed. Sure it takes longer, but it keeps them Agile we use Microsoft Teams, a new age collaborative chat space
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It's pretty amusing how much better Discord is in all facets (almost, notifications are garbo) than Skype for Business.
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heres a fun trick, have one of your vendor or consultant partners set up a slack then make it the de facto communication platform for your team because "the vendor cant work with anything else" it was really paying dividends for me last week ofc i am now pretending my company shuts down until next year starting today so everything is muted and an out of office message is up
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Mad Wack posted:heres a fun trick, have one of your vendor or consultant partners set up a slack then make it the de facto communication platform for your team because "the vendor cant work with anything else" lol
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Dec 20, 2016 03:40
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my company acquired a small company that had slack and we keep it up
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mishaq posted:my company acquired a small company that had slack and we keep it up I'm choosing to believe the purchase was really just a way to get slack into the company over the head of some idiot manager that was refusing for some reason
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duTrieux. posted:i've honestly never had any trouble with webex. i dont believe you. alternatively you havent really used webex much
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Bloody posted:a locally-hosted slack-like that i could deploy with no oversight from it would have a glimmer of hope but that's still prob not gonna happen Bloody posted:I would have to coerce IT into deploying that. I keep hoping its coming as we use Jira and confluence more but so far no dice just use slack
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the free version of slack is actually a blessing because culling everything after 10k messages and attachments after a limit means you can't use it as a loving document store
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I had to call into a WebEx meeting today manually because no matter the browser I used the meeting would not load
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Dec 20, 2016 11:27
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ahmeni posted:the free version of slack is actually a blessing because culling everything after 10k messages and attachments after a limit means you can't use it as a loving document store  also lmao that slack charges $13/month/head just to get AD integration
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mishaq posted:
drat lol that's what happens when you have a good product tho
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just 13 bucks/seat for ad sync? That's manageable. What I don't get RE: slack (the last holdout in my comp to not use it) that people are using the free one and talking 'bout the IP over it.
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incoherent posted:just 13 bucks/seat for ad sync? That's manageable. if microsoft can make teams not terrible and include it with O365 subscriptions slack is dead in the enterprise space no one is gonna drop five figgies a month on slack when a good enough alternative comes with what they're already paying for
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mishaq posted:if microsoft can make teams not terrible and include it with O365 subscriptions slack is dead in the enterprise space Yeah this is why nobody uses Box since Microsoft added onedrive for business to o365 Lol
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Is onedrive for business the worst product that Microsoft has ever released? Sources say yes
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mishaq posted:if microsoft can make teams not terrible lol
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quick someone has made an excellent service that businesses are signing up for en masse throw something together really quickly and be sure to base it off of sharepoint Microsoft
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it may have been mentioned in here before, but I feel like MMO guilds had this whole thing figured out like... 15+ years ago. I played Everquest in high school and we used to have 72-112 people in voice chat during raids and it was hardly ever a problem. the "officers" used to do like 20-person webcam meetings oiver Yahoo Messenger or some bullshit. why is everything in the corporate world so bad
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because they have sales teams to convince you it's good and once you've made the investment to move over it's a pain to switch no matter how terrible see: avaya
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BiohazrD posted:Yeah this is why nobody uses Box since Microsoft added onedrive for business to o365 having gigs and gigs of poo poo you dont want to deal with migrating is a lot different than everyone switching chat apps it's loving chat
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yeah lol
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people use slack because it's good and it's not tied to your loving idiot IT the entire point is that it's zero friction communication but oh yeah they'll definitely switch to your lovely enterprise solution as soon as "someone makes it good"
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slack is such a 2016 it bubble company though that i can't really stand them being successful, despite it being fantastic when we got the license and a billion stupid bots flourished
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ahmeni posted:people use slack because it's good and it's not tied to your loving idiot IT people use slack because its chat that works across desktop and mobile devices that's easy to administer, something that surprisingly few options exist for its just the ability to create "rooms" on demand and sending direct messages to individuals with chat history dont even need the file sharing features or whatever but they're nice, ideally screenshots and poo poo you drop into chats should disappear after 24 hours or whatever so you dont have to worry about retention because no one is gonna give a poo poo about that stuff later anyway if teams can just provide that there's no reason to use slack
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slack has been around for a couple years, so its not just a 2016 bubble It also seems to do well across diff platforms, like the previous poster says. It seems to be basically irc with a web ui which is already way better than skype/lync I logged into slack today, its a ghost town now that teams came around, and they finally added video chat. loving, thats the only reason we went with teams! we only committed to teams like a month ago. im so bummed
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