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Kwyndig posted:Bah, that one actually makes sense though, OCP was a cheap bunch of bastards. The only thing weird about that wall was it had the spike interface that apparently only Robocop was built to use. We only see Robocop use it, but that doesn't mean other devices don't. It makes more sense that Robocop was built with a standard interface jack than that they stuck a jack on him and started adding the socket to computers.
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My mum gave me a 500€ bill and I got my change through pneumatic tubes when I used it to buy a coffee maker at a department store. (I think we already established tubes aren't obsolete or failed but this is the first time I've personally seen them used since the 90s.) Obsolete, failed: 500€ bank notes. Literally obsolete because they stopped printing them.
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Yeah the only time I saw 500€ notes were when Chinese tourists came into our shop because they didn't know that pretty much no one accepts them.
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Jerry Cotton posted:My mum gave me a 500€ bill and I got my change through pneumatic tubes when I used it to buy a coffee maker at a department store. (I think we already established tubes aren't obsolete or failed but this is the first time I've personally seen them used since the 90s.) Obsolete, failed: 500€ bank notes. Literally obsolete because they stopped printing them. They withdrew the €500 note because literally the only people using them were drug dealers, organised crime and top-end corruption. So you might want to have a little chat with your mum.
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Shai-Hulud posted:Yeah the only time I saw 500€ notes were when Chinese tourists came into our shop because they didn't know that pretty much no one accepts them. Well all the stores that would attract Chinese* tourists (i.e. expensive ones) here take 500€ bills. A co-worker bought a bag of candy (which is like 2-4€) with a 500€ bill from the grocery store attached to Stockmann but regular grocery stores will never take anything larger than 50€. spog posted:They withdrew the €500 note because literally the only people using them were drug dealers, organised crime and top-end corruption. It is nice to chat, with mums. *) Ten years ago I would've said Russian tourists but for some odd reason not many of those around these days.
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I rarely ever see anybody but tourists use a £50 note in my shop. I don't think ATMs even give them out, I only get £10s and £20s when I request anything over £50. We're moving to polymer notes and the £50 is the only note that's not slated to be replaced (though to be fair it did receive a redesign a few years back).
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Veotax posted:I rarely ever see anybody but tourists use a £50 note in my shop. I don't think ATMs even give them out, I only get £10s and £20s when I request anything over £50. I found the opposite in Europe, a good chunk of the ATMs I used only dispensed 20s if you specifically chose small bills, otherwise it was all 50s. I was in Scotland last month and I could have sworn they were already using polymer notes? They definitely seemed sturdier than American bills. It's still pretty funny to me that different banks in the UK get to print their own variations of the GBP notes.
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Jedit posted:We only see Robocop use it, but that doesn't mean other devices don't. It makes more sense that Robocop was built with a standard interface jack than that they stuck a jack on him and started adding the socket to computers. We both know that Robocop was built with that interface so he could stab that one dude in the head with it.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:e: for extra obsoleteness, shot with a Samsung Galaxy S4. (get off my lawn, whippersnappers, etc.)
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As an Australian, all paper currencies are obsolete in face of scaled, colour-coded, waterproof, tearproof polymer notes. In fact, in Aus I rarely use physical currency because we have paypass nearly everywhere and a $100 limit. The actual australian dollar itself, uh, isn't so great, but goddamn is it convenient to handle and spend!
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Acid Reflux posted:I'm still rocking an S4 too. When it's absolutely unusable, I'll get rid of it, but it works just fine for what I need and I have no reason to replace it right now. I took an original Droid Razr on my honeymoon last month and was amazed to find it still takes fantastic photos.
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Acid Reflux posted:I'm still rocking an S4 too. When it's absolutely unusable, I'll get rid of it, but it works just fine for what I need and I have no reason to replace it right now. Slide-out phone, bitches!  
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Kelp Me! posted:I was in Scotland last month and I could have sworn they were already using polymer notes? They definitely seemed sturdier than American bills. Only the £5 notes are polymer, we're still on paper for the rest. Also technically the Scottish notes are not legal tender. The Bank of England has an agreement that it will honour them on presentation, but shops can and outside Scotland often will refuse them. Automated supermarket checkout lanes will accept them, though, as the software is universal.
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My S4 replaced an old LG flip phone whose model number I can't recall anymore. Even though a lot of my life revolves around technology, especially at work, I've never really become dependent on a mobile phone. I caved in on the S4 because it was a cheap refurb deal and the LG wouldn't hold a good charge anymore. My cell phone is also prepaid, and I still have a landline (VOIP, but...) ...maybe I'm the obsolete thing here. Hey, are you kids on my lawn again?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:That's why period accuracy will be so hard. Also I believe a lot of these old phones will be thrown away or recycled nearly out of existence in the next 50 years. It will be a classic case of "why should we keep this around, there are millions of ---------" until there suddenly aren't.
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That's really interesting to think about - imagine yourself in a thrift store or second hand electronics shop and think: what's the oldest item in there? Is it in good condition? Does it match what you're looking for? Is it cheaper than having the props department cook it up?
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Jedit posted:Only the £5 notes are polymer, we're still on paper for the rest. Wait, what? How are they not legal tender? Are they not backed by the HRM's government somehow or did Scotland just decide to print their own notes because, "gently caress the English?"
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Magnus Praeda posted:Wait, what? How are they not legal tender? Are they not backed by the HRM's government somehow or did Scotland just decide to print their own notes because, "gently caress the English?" In Scotland and Northern Ireland, no banknotes, not even those issued in those countries, are legal tender. They have a similar legal standing to cheques or debit cards, in that their acceptability as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved, although Scots law requires any reasonable offer for settlement of a debt to be accepted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banknotes_of_the_pound_sterling
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Kelp Me! posted:I found the opposite in Europe, a good chunk of the ATMs I used only dispensed 20s if you specifically chose small bills, otherwise it was all 50s. As mentioned earlier the polymer £5 note came in a few months ago, the old paper note is still legal tender until March I think. The polymer £10 note is supposed to launch not too long after that and the £20 note is suppsoed to happen before the end of the decade. We're also changing the design of the £1 coin next year as well, new one is two metal coin (like the £2 coin) with flattened edges (like the 20p). A lot of changes to British currency over the next four or so years.
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Jedit posted:Also technically the Scottish notes are not legal tender. The Bank of England has an agreement that it will honour them on presentation, but shops can and outside Scotland often will refuse them. Automated supermarket checkout lanes will accept them, though, as the software is universal. Shops can refuse them, but not because they're not legal tender. Legal tender has gently caress-all to do with shops, it's to do with settlement of debts. When it comes to straight buying things, Scottish money is the same as English money, and the shopkeeper can refuse either and insist on using shiny buttons and it's entirely legal. I spent too long studying for a banking qualification in Scotland.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:This is a major problem on film sets. I can't Google the article, but Halt and Catch Fire had to launch a nationwide search for a particular piece of computer hardware that featured in a plot. There are set designers who specialize in historical artifacts, but as you move into the era when technology has a few-year lifespan, very little of it survives. You can simulate mainframes easily enough by painting large cabinets blue or orange or whatever, but PCs and terminals are smaller-scale and have obvious details. Similarly, once telephone handsets stopped being owned by Ma Bell and started being individual user purchases, prices plummeted and handsets became throwaways. Finding a telephone in the '80s colors of teal, purple, and mauve is probably not easy nowadays. I have to imagine 3D printing will solve all of those problems. Need a period accurate circa 2011 cell phone? Print it. It doesn't have to have the right interface. Even now they get OS's mixed up on phones that are only 5 or 6 years old. So what if the most popular film of 2030 has the villain using a Droid with a Palm OS interface.
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Veotax posted:As mentioned earlier the polymer £5 note came in a few months ago, the old paper note is still legal tender until March I think. Wait what? Your old currency is going to just... stop being currency? That is so weird. I could walk into a store now with a (if I had one) 1945 $5 bill and buy skittles with it if I wanted to.
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Control your currency with this one weird trick India found.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Wait what? Your old currency is going to just... stop being currency? That is so weird. I could walk into a store now with a (if I had one) 1945 $5 bill and buy skittles with it if I wanted to. And that's why central banks the world over keep Dollars and not Scottish Woolies or whatever they call them.
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Finally a chance to spend money like it's going out of style
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Boiled Water posted:Control your currency with this one weird trick India found. Black marketers hate it! ftfy
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Wait what? Your old currency is going to just... stop being currency? That is so weird. I could walk into a store now with a (if I had one) 1945 $5 bill and buy skittles with it if I wanted to.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Wait what? Your old currency is going to just... stop being currency? That is so weird. I could walk into a store now with a (if I had one) 1945 $5 bill and buy skittles with it if I wanted to. It actually makes a lot of sense: Counterfeiting: what's the point of covering the latest issue of your $100 bill in holograms and making it uncopiable, if you can run off a pile of 1945 bills on your inkjet printer and use them undetected? Corruption: You're a major drug dealer and you accumulate $100M of undeclared cash. If, after 10 years, you can't spend it on anything then it's going to be a bit tricky to walk into your local bank to exchange them without having to answer some very difficult questions.
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I prefer "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private". Ain't no time limit wrote on it. 
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Wait what? Your old currency is going to just... stop being currency? That is so weird. I could walk into a store now with a (if I had one) 1945 $5 bill and buy skittles with it if I wanted to. Even after shops stop taking the old paper notes you'll still be able to go into a bank and swap it for a new one. They updated the £50 a few years back (got slightly smaller, new anti-counterfeit measures, new design printed on the note) and when ever someone tried to spend the old one we just sent them to the bank (the customer, not the note). Like spog mentioned, it pretty much kills every counterfeit note out there. Until they manage to make convincing fake plastic notes. 
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Just switch to Yap Island money with a bunch of holograms on it.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Wait what? Your old currency is going to just... stop being currency? That is so weird. I could walk into a store now with a (if I had one) 1945 $5 bill and buy skittles with it if I wanted to. It's not like we're the only place which does this. I had about £20 worth of Hong Kong dollars left over from a holiday trip in 1999 and they were in the "still accepted by banks but not currently in circulation" region. In fact, is the US in the minority of places by not expiring old notes? Re: 80s phones they were mostly pretty nasty colours here for the British Telecom rotary dual phones like chocolate brown, a pastel green often used for 70s hospital crockery, or beige.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:This is a major problem on film sets. I can't Google the article, but Halt and Catch Fire had to launch a nationwide search for a particular piece of computer hardware that featured in a plot. well why not posted:As an Australian, all paper currencies are obsolete in face of scaled, colour-coded, waterproof, tearproof polymer notes. In fact, in Aus I rarely use physical currency because we have paypass nearly everywhere and a $100 limit. If your phone has NFC and google pay then you can pretty much leave your wallet at home.
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legooolas posted:In fact, is the US in the minority of places by not expiring old notes? Pretty sure we are, yeah. For reasons that are I'm quite sure dumb as gently caress.
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ReidRansom posted:Pretty sure we are, yeah. For reasons that are I'm quite sure dumb as gently caress. Probably similar to the reasons you hold on to 1 cent coins and paper dollar bills. So yes.
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WebDog posted:Stranger Things had the same issue with that big radio set they have in the science lab. It's stuff that's someone's grandfather had and put in a shed and forgot about. I always carry cash when traveling out of state because my credit cards like to suddenly get frozen after a few transactions until I make a call. Even if you let the company know ahead of time that you'll be traveling out of state, too many "suspicious transactions far from your home" will trip it. Thankfully I avoided this last time I was in NYC. I just kept getting texts bugging me and asking if I really spent $27.88 at this store.
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Krispy Kareem posted:So what if the most popular film of 2030 has the villain using a Droid with a Palm OS interface. What's the 2030 version of angry tweets from nerds?
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Computer viking posted:Probably similar to the reasons you hold on to 1 cent coins and paper dollar bills. So yes. Don't forget "chip and signature" because Americans can't remember another 4-digit pin number.
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Cacator posted:pin number. Troll spotted.
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WebDog posted:Notes and coins are getting pretty rare in my wallet. Here in Australia we even have cardless withdraw at ATMs. You get your bank app to setup how much you want to take out and it gives you a code to input and off you go. The only reason I use cash anymore is because of stupid EFTPOS minimums which suck the most in shops or cheap takeaways where people clearly aren't gonna buy $15-$20 worth of poo poo. 
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