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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Smartphones wouldn't exist without the DS. We'd have strange flip phones and blackberries.  Palm got scooped by other players, mostly. Decus posted:I don't even think it'll be rear end compared to anybody's phone in terms of real world performance. Phone specs are not even close to what they are actually able to maintain due to thermal throttling. And tiny frames. Even classical handhelds can heat up, and every iteration of 3DS does (albeit only to comfortable levels). Well, that and... I don't know how iOS does it but on Android they're usually buried multiple virtual machines deep with the occasional direct hook. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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I hope nintendo throttles the gently caress out of switches power so its a practical handheld and not something that feels like a fish out of water gasping for battery power and cooling everytime you undock. I'm excited to play next gen 3ds games and i'm glad they arent catering to idiots who want a mythical all in one game platform.
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Real hurthling! posted:I hope nintendo throttles the gently caress out of switches power so its a practical handheld and not something that feels like a fish out of water gasping for battery power and cooling everytime you undock. I'm excited to play next gen 3ds games and i'm glad they arent catering to idiots who want a mythical all in one game platform. wow what a surprise the console troll hopes the nintendo switch is a piece of poo poo that no one will buy grow up
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greatn posted:Unlike the 3ds it can use the same basic art assets, engines, textures, etc. The majority of games developed these days are not these huge super processing intensive monsters. There are for example just a ton of relatively modest JRPgs out there that are currently on Vita/PS4 that are almost certainly going to jump over to Switch. Anyone developing an indie game it is going to be a lot easier to port over to Switch. Anyone making a mobile game it is going to be a lot easier to port over to Switch. Unless they go pants-on-head retarded and make something unnecessarily complex to code for with the Tegra hardware, I definitely agree we'll probably see the Vita/Budget PS4 developers jump ship to the Switch.
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Is.....is the vita gonna survive the Switch? : - ( Vita means life
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Bass Bottles posted:Is.....is the vita gonna survive the Switch? : - ( ahahahaha gently caress no vita's meant death for a while I'm still trying to figure out what legs it has left, although for me it did have a bit of a second wind because dear god the PS3 is unbearable in 2016, but only a few games-worth-playing haven't been ported to the PS4 or PC yet.
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Bass Bottles posted:Is.....is the vita gonna survive the Switch? : - ( vita tv 2
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HyperPuma posted:so the nintendo switch is the new home of japanese dating sims and early access survival games? well now you sold me on it
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dont be mean to me posted:ahahahaha gently caress no vita's meant death for a while It's gasping along on budget titles and a spattering of PS3/PS4 multiplatform releases, but it's effectively dead and buried. Sony isn't even making new Vita consoles and hasn't been for months now.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Third party devs are already returning to Nintendo
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CrashCat posted:Most of the "new" ones were already here for 3DS games or even Wii U games, eShop or otherwise. The fact is Nintendo already has plenty of third party support. I'm skeptical of there being any sort of new groundswell of interest. That's what I was getting at with my lovely comparison. For a lot of these companies it will probably be something more like "well, our next Nintendo game might as well be on the Switch this time." I don't understand what you're trying to say. Third party support doesn't count if the company has made games for a Nintendo system before? You do understand that both of those pictures are from before the systems launched, right? Significantly more companies agreed to make Switch games before the launch of the Switch than agreed to make Wii U games before the launch of the Wii U. How does that not show increased faith in the Switch compared to the Wii U?
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't understand what you're trying to say. Third party support doesn't count if the company has made games for a Nintendo system before? You do understand that both of those pictures are from before the systems launched, right? Significantly more companies agreed to make Switch games before the launch of the Switch than agreed to make Wii U games before the launch of the Wii U. How does that not show increased faith in the Switch compared to the Wii U? he's saying that many of them made 3ds games and now will make switch games and that this isn't as many new developers coming to nintendo as it seems, just nintendo holding up longtime handheld partners as console partners now that their handheld is their console i dont know how true this is but that's what he is saying via my powers of reading comprehension
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Why does that matter? Does it mean more games are released on the switch? If so, who gives a poo poo if they also made 3DS games.
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Guy Goodbody posted:How does that not show increased faith in the Switch compared to the Wii U?
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its significant in the respect that ue4 was not supported by wii u so having all the engines run on switch is reassuring. otherwise i agree that nintendo is blowing smoke a bit about how things are changing when all i really see is 3ds and wii u fusing to survive
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If the Switch just gets 3ds like support I'd be fine with it. Nintendo Unifying it's handheld and console teams is what I am most excited about. I don't give a poo poo about third parties(outside of like Capcom for MonHun, and other frequent Nintendo Collabs devs)
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CrashCat posted:That is correct, but I really don't care that it shows increased interest in the Switch launch compared to the Wii U because I don't believe they will stick with it. And it's not increased interest in Nintendo so I don't think it's much help. I feel like it's misleading to show that big looking graphic full of company logos and imply some sort of Nintendo renaissance, but that's just my opinion. It probably doesn't help that the bottom two rows of the graphic are all engines and middleware etc., that's what got me suspicious to begin with. It's a Games thread about a new Nintendo console, that's why some people are dickwaving about apparently having third party support for their favorite game company after basically spending the last 4 years circlejerking about not needing those lovely third parties anyway. The end. The Switch is probably going see third party games get outsold by Nintendo games to a hilarious degree at launch anyway. If the system is going to retain any significant amount of that support, it has to sell well. That's the long and short of it, and it's pretty much all on Nintendo to market the thing well and drive sales on it with games people outside of the die-hards will want to play. That's what kinda concerns me. People keep touting the strength of Nintendo's brands, but honestly outside of old folks like me, I just ain't seeing it. The Wii U had some staggeringly brilliant games come to it and it sold like crap anyway. Seriously, one of the best Super Mario games in a long time with 3D World. Crazy stuff like Bayo 1 and 2 coming to the system together. Wonderful 101. Mario Kart 8. A Good Smash Bros. Xenoblade Chronicles X, for some people I guess. Hashtag FE. HD Windwaker and Hyrule Warriors. The system just has a lot of games that are great and in many cases can only be played on the Wii U. Didn't matter, system was a sales dumpster fire. And that's sad, because it'd be really rad if more people got to play stuff like Bayo 2 or Mario Kart 8. You can only blame the launch marketing for so long. The system was just flat out unappealing to most folks. One of the best exclusive line-ups in the industry (arguably the best), some of the best known Nintendo properties putting out some of their best work, along with some stuff that was weird and unique to the Wii U alone, all coupled with endlessly positive word of mouth by fans did nothing to change that.
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fivegears4reverse posted:You can only blame the launch marketing for so long. The system was just flat out unappealing to most folks. One of the best exclusive line-ups in the industry (arguably the best), some of the best known Nintendo properties putting out some of their best work, along with some stuff that was weird and unique to the Wii U alone, all coupled with endlessly positive word of mouth by fans did nothing to change that. Yes, but the Wii U's two big years, 2014 and 2015, came too late. By then the PS4 and XBox One had their momentum and Nintendo had been written off by all but the faithful. I really doubt Nintendo is looking to let that happen again, and has one of the most anticipated titles in video game history in the launch window of the Switch. The tea leaves we have to go on from the last console are worthless.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:one of the most anticipated titles in video game history in the launch window of the Switch I didn't know Xenoblade Chronicles X3 GNOSTICISM UP IN THIS poo poo: A Good Game With A Good Soundtrack, was confirmed launch window holy poo poo Kidding aside, does Zelda actually mean that much to anyone outside of Nintendo fans anymore? People have been hyping up the next console zelda every time since OoT. I'm excited for BotW too, but drat.
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fivegears4reverse posted:I didn't know Xenoblade Chronicles X3 GNOSTICISM UP IN THIS poo poo: A Good Game With A Good Soundtrack, was confirmed launch window holy poo poo If the E3 reaction to Breath of the Wild is anything to go by, then yes, the video game community at large cares very much about the next Zelda title. poo poo, PC Gamer did an article on it.
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The problem with the wii u's lineup wasn't a lack of good games - it was a lack of variety. Almost all of the best games for wii u were platformers and/or local-multiplayer-focused games. These are two genres that Nintendo does extremely well, but they aren't enough to sustain a console. I like story-driven singleplayer stuff, and pikmin was the closest i got for a looong time - wii u will be the only nintendo system in history not to have an exclusive zelda game, and the one it's getting is basically being released as an afterthought, months after the thing ends production. There were definitely exceptions to this, like Splatoon and #FE, but they both came too late to make an impact on hardware sales. youcallthatatwist fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Can't say for the general public, but I've seen a lot of buzz online for BotW from people who are lapsed Nintendo fans. "It's great to be excited for a Nintendo game again" is a common refrain I'm seeing/hearing a lot.
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youcallthatatwist posted:The problem with the wii u's lineup wasn't a lack of good games - it was a lack of variety. Almost all of the best games for wii u were platformers and/or local-multiplayer-focused games. These are two genres that Nintendo does extremely well, but they aren't enough to sustain a console. I like story-driven singleplayer stuff, and pikmin was the closest i got for a looong time - wii u will be the only nintendo system in history not to have an exclusive zelda game, and the one it's getting is basically being released as an afterthought, months after the thing ends production. I just got a Wii U this summer. I'm having a great time ordering games right now cheap that I haven't played. I grabbed splinter cell today for $14 bucks. Yes, I will be getting a Switch too, but I really like the system. There seems like there are third party gems if you look.
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youcallthatatwist posted:The problem with the wii u's lineup wasn't a lack of good games Yes it was. Nintendo could turn out a good game on a regular basis, but they were doing them six months apart (or more) and being the only company making titles for the thing that is a terminally long time to go without releases.
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Theta Zero posted:Here's a gif of Miyamoto presenting the Switch and Mario Run in Jimmy Fallon, since nobody has posted one yet. you've got the wrong gif
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You wanna sell dem third pahty games? Put Link in Skyrim badda Bing badda boom. Hylian playable character race.
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greatn posted:You wanna sell dem third pahty games? Link's hat will be an item available on in Skyrim: Switch™ Edition.
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greatn posted:You wanna sell dem third pahty games? bing bing bong so simple
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Sometimes I wonder what our world would be if Nintendo consoles had the same third party support as their competitors in the modern generations. Namely in the silly crossover stuff. Imagine finding a Varia suit in Mass Effect or something. That would've been neato.
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You may be interested in my rom hack "Metroid Effect"
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Theta Zero posted:Sometimes I wonder what our world would be if Nintendo consoles had the same third party support as their competitors in the modern generations. Namely in the silly crossover stuff. Exclusive to the Nintendo X's version of Mass Effect 4 : Chazz, the Chozo squadmate "What's Ballin', Shepard, you never seen a chozo shaman before?" romanceable
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Guy Goodbody posted:Third party devs are already returning to Nintendo Why did third parties get burned? I didn't keep up with the wii so idk too too much in regards to who was and wasn't developing for it
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Atlus delayed Persona 5 so that they can port it to the Switch. And cancel the PS4 version. 
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how can they delay it when it's already out
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Japan doesn't count
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Low specs aside, ultimately it's the January 12th/13th Nintendo Switch Direct that's going to make or break it. You're going to buy the Switch primarily for the games, so the showcase ought to be pretty good if Nintendo are going to sell it to the masses.
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Rexroom posted:Low specs aside, ultimately it's the January 12th/13th Nintendo Switch Direct that's going to make or break it. You're going to buy the Switch primarily for the games, so the showcase ought to be pretty good if Nintendo are going to sell it to the masses. If the Switch is less than $400 and has more than 2 launch titles I give a poo poo about, I will pre-order. Like, they need to actually impress me with games immediately. I can always just get the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild, and like, Capcom not announcing a new Switch-exclusive Monster Hunter was a major blow to my enthusiasm. I'll hold out final judgement until that Switch Direct, though. It seems like Nintendo is trying hard to keep a lid on the game lineup until then, so there's probably a bunch of unannounced stuff.
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FirstAidKite posted:Why did third parties get burned? I didn't keep up with the wii so idk too too much in regards to who was and wasn't developing for it Nintendo has always had an antagonistic relationship with developers/publishers who played along with their high licensing fees and restrictions until they weren't the only game in town anymore. In latter years the issues have mainly been hardware stuff like unorthodox controllers or expensive/smaller media formats, but back in the snes/nes days they created a lot of resentment with their hegemony.
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I actually do just want a Wii U portable, I skipped the Wii U and it had a lot of stuff I'd be interested in, like SM3DW, WWHD, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101 etc.
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Real hurthling! posted:Nintendo has always had an antagonistic relationship with developers/publishers who played along with their high licensing fees and restrictions until they weren't the only game in town anymore. In latter years the issues have mainly been hardware stuff like unorthodox controllers or expensive/smaller media formats, but back in the snes/nes days they created a lot of resentment with their hegemony. Ah, but what does that have to do with the Wii? I thought the wii had a lot of non-nintendo games on it.
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