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Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
Delenda est Pandemic Legion :argh:

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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Landsknecht posted:

gsf also has that issue; you have seemed reluctant to use big stuff a lot as an alliance, outside of a few key instances

caps have less utility for GSF. For PL it's more often that dropping caps can turn losses into wins (or wins into dumpster dunks).

say PL made some blood oath to not use any caps for the next 3 months, they'd lose a lot more fights. people who think they'd have a good chance at those conditions would seek them out. likewise, if GSF used caps we have willy-nilly we'd have someone (PL) waiting to take advantage.


Landsknecht posted:

yeah the weird thing is that after you won b-r you kinda hosed off back to dek, and the russians collapsed, allowing plncdot to keep the rental empire which paid for all the losses (and then some)

It was a weird thing after the whole "twist the knife" speech. Best I can guess is that NCPL would have started fighting again faster than we could have flipped all that drones area.

And since those particular russians collapsed via internal schism it turned out to be a good plan to gently caress off anyways. Not much you can do for your allies if they decide they hate each other's guts more than they like their space.

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Klyith posted:

Not much you can do for your allies if they decide they hate each other's guts more than they like their space.

See also: CO2 and TEST

YouTuber
Jul 31, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Dalael posted:

Delenda est Pandemic Legion :argh:

You said it wrong. It's Carthago Delenda Est.

Klyith posted:

say PL made some blood oath to not use any caps for the next 3 months, they'd lose a lot more fights.

This is nonsensical. PL views capitals like Battleships, they're utterly expendable ships. Also GSF has this weird belief that PL truly cares about Supercap losses. PL has always held the all-time high score on most Supercaps lost in a single battle. This dates back to 2010 when PL lost Fountain to IT Alliance. They jumped 4 Titans in and they all desynced and got killed. 4 was an astonishing blow back then. PL will be the one who loses more than B-R solely because PL actively uses their stockpile more than anyone. Even in the Grath rage mp3 over the Rev loss he wasn't mad about the Supercapitals. He was mad about people neglecting to check with the spy network before fishing, hell he was loving laughing over the fact Jake Noble lost his Aeon a day into being in PL.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
ok

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
goonfleetswarm walks like this *picture of nerds getting wedgies in the locker room*, and pl walks like thiiiiiissss *picture of nerds getting wedgied in the locker room but jimfacing the camera to show they are not mad and think its funny*

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Klyith posted:

caps have less utility for GSF. For PL it's more often that dropping caps can turn losses into wins (or wins into dumpster dunks).

PL has less people, being able to fill out a 256 man fleet requires a lot more effort than in GSF; so naturally PL needs tools which can compensate for numbers, supercaps are one of these

even when we'd see 150man BC fleets around we'd just use combat carriers - super expendable, and powerful en masse

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week
^^^e: yes exactly. I'm not saying it's morally wrong or anything. you'd be idiots to not use the thing you built your membership to take advantage of. I'm not sure why CCP thinks this is a good state of affairs -- whether you like it or not, putting a premium on more guys rather than expensive ships would seem to be good w/r/t subscriptions. But I'm not ccp, maybe more people are plexing their supers than I imagine.

YouTuber posted:

This is nonsensical. PL views capitals like Battleships, they're utterly expendable ships. Also GSF has this weird belief that PL truly cares about Supercap losses. PL has always held the all-time high score on most Supercaps lost in a single battle. This dates back to 2010 when PL lost Fountain to IT Alliance. They jumped 4 Titans in and they all desynced and got killed. 4 was an astonishing blow back then. PL will be the one who loses more than B-R solely because PL actively uses their stockpile more than anyone. Even in the Grath rage mp3 over the Rev loss he wasn't mad about the Supercapitals. He was mad about people neglecting to check with the spy network before fishing, hell he was loving laughing over the fact Jake Noble lost his Aeon a day into being in PL.

you're mis-interpreting me, or I tried to say a thing in too few words.

PL has a strong advantage over most opponents in caps and supers. saying they're expendable has nothing to do with those numbers*. in the hypothetical situation where PL doesn't have caps, and is forced to be subcap only, there would be a lot more people on even footing. I'm not saying PL is bad at subcaps, it's just the numbers.


*though it's helpful for not having people ghost on you after a B-R, which is a big concern for pretty much every other alliance in the game

Klyith fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Dec 20, 2016

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ynglaur posted:

I wouldn't brag. Deklein is a veritable wasteland compared to when the CFC lived there. We may keep our PVP and ISK-MAKING characters in the same alliance--unlike elite PVP--but nobody builds a null-sec economy like goons.

My ISK making characters are in PL. HTH.

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.

Unfunny Poster posted:

My ISK making characters are in PL. HTH.

this post did not help me, sorry :(

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Generation Internet posted:

this post did not help me, sorry :(

Well then you're a lost cause. Sorry friend. I hope Jesus grants you blessings on your journey to enlightenment.

God Bless you and President-Elect Donald Trump.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

evilweasel posted:

sort dragon is more successful in major supercap engagements than almost everyone in pl

He's also pretty successful at sucking the right dick, at the right time to get on the winning side the moment it feels like he has something to lose (besides his dignity obviously).

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

YouTuber posted:

You said it wrong. It's Pandemic Legion Delenda Est.

FTFY


quote:

This is nonsensical. PL views capitals like Battleships, they're utterly expendable ships. Also GSF has this weird belief that PL truly cares about Supercap losses. PL has always held the all-time high score on most Supercaps lost in a single battle. This dates back to 2010 when PL lost Fountain to IT Alliance. They jumped 4 Titans in and they all desynced and got killed. 4 was an astonishing blow back then. PL will be the one who loses more than B-R solely because PL actively uses their stockpile more than anyone. Even in the Grath rage mp3 over the Rev loss he wasn't mad about the Supercapitals. He was mad about people neglecting to check with the spy network before fishing, hell he was loving laughing over the fact Jake Noble lost his Aeon a day into being in PL.

I've been led to believe that plenty of PL members tend to drop corp when their supers are about to blow. I don't know if its true or not and have never bothered to check PL or anyone's killboard to verify. But if any of that has any truth to it, then I'd say that they do care about supercaps loss.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Dalael posted:

I've been led to believe that plenty of PL members tend to drop corp when their supers are about to blow. I don't know if its true or not and have never bothered to check PL or anyone's killboard to verify. But if any of that has any truth to it, then I'd say that they do care about supercaps loss.

That individual cares, sure.

I doubt the alliance as a whole gives a poo poo though.

YouTuber
Jul 31, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Dalael posted:

FTFY


I've been led to believe that plenty of PL members tend to drop corp when their supers are about to blow. I don't know if its true or not and have never bothered to check PL or anyone's killboard to verify. But if any of that has any truth to it, then I'd say that they do care about supercaps loss.

That would be on a personal level. Penifsmash made a troll post about dropping corp for 1 billion+ ISK ships to ferret out a bunch of dumbos and we mocked a bunch of people who actually did PM him.

stale meme dot png
May 5, 2015
College Slice

Dalael posted:

Despera.

yeah I was gonna say despera hasn't posted in a while. I dunno I like dude but w/e it's me liking people is my thing.

Zephyrine posted:

If I can endure then so can you. And so could have DJ. And I had to fence with both the swarm and the Panda Legion. Sometimes at the same time.

I have literally begged zeph to be quiet in this thread and just sort of fade away for a bit so her name isn't on anyone's lips for a while and then try later but she just won't stop posting. And then to see her posting stuff like this is like uuuuugh.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Unfunny Poster posted:

My ISK making characters are in PL

:eyepop:

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Daco Vato posted:

I have literally begged zeph to be quiet in this thread and just sort of fade away for a bit so her name isn't on anyone's lips for a while and then try later but she just won't stop posting.

Well now you know how it feels

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

trkn is the top ratting system in eve precisely because all of our isk making chars are in pl

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Landsknecht posted:

trkn is the top ratting system in eve precisely because all of our isk making chars are in pl

whats your tax rate :colbert:

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




I have some bad rapid deployment news

It appears the intrepid warriors of panda mclegion have a new task..



protecting renters :laugh:

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Daco Vato posted:

yeah I was gonna say despera hasn't posted in a while. I dunno I like dude but w/e it's me liking people is my thing.


I have literally begged zeph to be quiet in this thread and just sort of fade away for a bit so her name isn't on anyone's lips for a while and then try later but she just won't stop posting. And then to see her posting stuff like this is like uuuuugh.

I'm probably going contrary to the popular opinion ITT, but I think Zephyrine should be let back in. The drama she caused was very minor and she's doing the exact same thing with PH. So I guess in the end, its just part of her personality. :shrug:
Considering she didn't gently caress over anyone on her way out and stuck with us until the evac of Deklein was complete, I don't see any 'real' reasons why she should be left to languish.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Dalael posted:

I'm probably going contrary to the popular opinion ITT, but I think Zephyrine should be let back in.

If only people gave a poo poo about your opinion.

they don't

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

YouTuber posted:

You said it wrong. It's Carthago Delenda Est.

I don't know what the ablative of Pandemic Legion is, but in general Latin word order is pretty flexible.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Xolve posted:

If only people gave a poo poo about your opinion.

they don't

I know :smith:

Pimblor
Sep 13, 2003
bob
Grimey Drawer
For what it's worth Dalalele I think you're worthless whitenoise posting is a joyous content filler. Please continue.

Dr. Pangloss
Apr 5, 2014
Ask me about metaphysico-theologo-cosmolo-nigology. I'm here to help!

Xolve posted:

If only people gave a poo poo about your opinion the whole topic of zeph and her eternal battle for (re)entrance to GSF.

they don't

FYP

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Orange Red Bull posted:

I have some bad rapid deployment news

It appears the intrepid warriors of panda mclegion have a new task..



protecting renters :laugh:

why the heck would anyone pay for this when they can join GSF on any of our fine publicly recruiting corporations and have access to better space and actual capital escalation potential

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Orange Red Bull posted:

I have some bad rapid deployment news

It appears the intrepid warriors of panda mclegion have a new task..



protecting renters :laugh:

who wrote that post because it is far too literate to be her

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

who wrote that post because it is far too literate to be her

pretty sure matteral is her ghostwriter

stale meme dot png
May 5, 2015
College Slice

Dalael posted:

I'm probably going contrary to the popular opinion ITT, but I think Zephyrine should be let back in. The drama she caused was very minor and she's doing the exact same thing with PH. So I guess in the end, its just part of her personality. :shrug:
Considering she didn't gently caress over anyone on her way out and stuck with us until the evac of Deklein was complete, I don't see any 'real' reasons why she should be left to languish.

just shut the gently caress up about it is my whole goddamned point. SHUT UP.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Daco Vato posted:

just shut the gently caress up about it is my whole goddamned point. SHUT UP.

Eat your brownies and chill Paco.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Xolve posted:

That individual cares, sure.

I doubt the alliance as a whole gives a poo poo though.

Any organization's culture tends to be the sum of its individuals' values (though strong leadership can influence the former by changing the latter). Therefore, if the people care enough about the organization's kill board, you can reasonably say the organization does too.

4th Horseman
Jun 3, 2011

Dalael posted:

I'm probably going contrary to the popular opinion ITT, but I think Zephyrine should be let back in. The drama she caused was very minor and she's doing the exact same thing with PH. So I guess in the end, its just part of her personality. :shrug:
Considering she didn't gently caress over anyone on her way out and stuck with us until the evac of Deklein was complete, I don't see any 'real' reasons why she should be left to languish.

People who left with primo schismo dj got let back in. None of them talked a whole lot of bad things about us right when we were getting beat. In here. Or in interviews with the enemy news platforms.

grymwulf
Nov 29, 2013

What? Was it something I said?

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

who wrote that post because it is far too literate to be her

WERMT

Hmmmm how quickly will they get banned now that they admit it?

Crap, I forgot it's CCPL no bans there.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Ynglaur posted:

Any organization's culture tends to be the sum of its individuals' values (though strong leadership can influence the former by changing the latter). Therefore, if the people care enough about the organization's kill board, you can reasonably say the organization does too.

I think in this particular case it's more of people afraid of the inevitable hazing than anything else, but- i'll bow to the cultural expertise of those that have never been in PL to tell me what the alliance actually cares about.

4th Horseman posted:

People who left with primo schismo dj got let back in. None of them talked a whole lot of bad things about us right when we were getting beat. In here. Or in interviews with the enemy news platforms.

To be fair- outside of a minor meltdown here, I don't think Zeph posted anything on Reddit, and that was really just JEFFRAIDER copypasta'ing what I posted in Forum Porn to r/EVE (and denying me my dank, super dank, mega dank upvotes..)

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

4th Horseman posted:

the enemy news platforms.

:laffo:

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




are you denying the existence of the PL media empire

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Daco Vato posted:

yeah I was gonna say despera hasn't posted in a while. I dunno I like dude but w/e it's me liking people is my thing.


I have literally begged zeph to be quiet in this thread and just sort of fade away for a bit so her name isn't on anyone's lips for a while and then try later but she just won't stop posting. And then to see her posting stuff like this is like uuuuugh.

Dalael posted:

I'm probably going contrary to the popular opinion ITT, but I think Zephyrine should be let back in. The drama she caused was very minor and she's doing the exact same thing with PH. So I guess in the end, its just part of her personality. :shrug:
Considering she didn't gently caress over anyone on her way out and stuck with us until the evac of Deklein was complete, I don't see any 'real' reasons why she should be left to languish.


You are both loving me over with your lukewarm support. Let me handle this.

In fact Dalael stop posting all together. Daco gets penal service in theta jabber. You get to never stop posting there for a year.


I think he means the unpublished interview I did for en24 Not reddit.

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xlr82xs
Sep 9, 2008
Now that vyst isn't the go to "I can't click button please let me back in" what's the easiest way to check if you have been blacklisted?

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