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Serf posted:I bought it a couple weeks ago on the recommendation of a friend, who says its pretty good. I also got The Economics of Inequality, which is shorter, so I'm working my way through it first and it's interesting thus far didn't even know this existed, def checking it out now. thanks
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They can translate pretty easily, the problem is the translators. there, i said it, i'm putting it out there
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Karl Barks posted:has anyone spent the time to go all the way through piketty's capital in the 21st century? I was thinking about picking it up and reading it over my christmas vacation Piketty didn't say what you don't already know. It was a big deal because he used math to show liberals how capital accumulation works.
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piketty doesn't actually prevent anything novel, he just gets two numbers and mashes them together, and for that he gets called a genuis
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Piketty didn't say what you don't already know. It was a big deal because he used math to show liberals how capital accumulation works. yeah, that's basically why I want to read it tho, big fan of numbers here. and honestly comes in handy when talking to people who I think are open to learning more about marxism but are still wary of actual marxist text
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reading Marx (at least the manifesto and part 1 of capital) Is Good in ways because its smart to know an important early text of communism/socialism/leftist stuff and realize how other thinkers later down the line are utilizing and applying it to their own directions but yeah its also an old industrial age work so its not a great What Is To Be Done? type of reading i felt like Marx's 'Capital' was also a somewhat accessible shortcut text but I also haven't read it in like 5 years Arcteryx Anarchist fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Piketty didn't say what you don't already know. It was a big deal because he used math to show liberals how capital accumulation works. And Marxists that TRPF isn't happening.
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The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte will never not be relevant.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte will never not be relevant. That's my current read right now (aside from The Conquest of Bread) and yeah, it's pretty prescient.
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Hilario Baldness posted:That's my current read right now (aside from The Conquest of Bread) and yeah, it's pretty prescient. It's brilliant, but how is it prescient?
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:It's brilliant, but how is it prescient? To our current predicament.
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Fiction posted:Are there any good late-20th-century books on Marx that tried to fit his theories to the emerging global economy? I'd be surprised if there weren't, but all I know about are the Wolff lectures. Check out Spaces of Capital by David Harvey. It was my entrypoint into Marxian theory and does a better job explaining the logic of the global economy than anything else I've read, despite being a compilation of previously published material.
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Hilario Baldness posted:To our current predicament. I don't think there's much overlap other than "now we have a buffoon in charge," and Napoleon III was probably not quite as dumb as Marx makes him out to be anyway.
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Fiction posted:Are there any good late-20th-century books on Marx that tried to fit his theories to the emerging global economy? I'd be surprised if there weren't, but all I know about are the Wolff lectures. divided world divided class kicks major rear end and that clause rhymed so you know it's true
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You should probably work on seizing the means of producing decent meter.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:You should probably work on seizing the means of producing decent meter.  'd harder than kulaks in vorkuta
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I was about to make fun of hexplainer's probation but now he's been unprobated so that's cool i guess e: lol no he's still probated it just doesn't show up in the preview window Peel fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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if you're thinking 'D&D international affairs posting can't possibly get any worse,' brace for the confrontation with china trump is going to bring us (until they bribe him with a hotel deal lol)
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Apparently the D&D Middle East thread thinks the Russian diplomat being assassinated is good? Never go to D&D, folks.
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I think that's just a couple people tbf the real trick will be finding how many journalists talk sagely about how this is blowback for russia's foreign policy, but condemn the idea when it comes to attacks on americans
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I broke because the main opinion there seems to be that the Western Left has the blood of the children of Aleppo on its hands, but the Russian ambassador to Turkey bears no responsibility for Russian actions in the region.
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how can you justify an assassination of an ambassador like how i've never been a fan of Russia's actions in Syria, but that crosses, like, several lines
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rudatron posted:how can you justify an assassination of an ambassador Pener Kropoopkin posted:Never go to D&D, folks.
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You see, Putin is attempting to exterminate all Sunnis from Syria to resettle with Iranians. This is for real and not actually salafist propaganda
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Homework Explainer posted:divided world divided class kicks major rear end and that clause rhymed so you know it's true seconding this recommendation also Capital (vol 1 at the least) is a good read, is basically the birth of the modern social sciences, and contrary to some of the allegations in here it's still relevant; the relations of production haven't changed so radically as technology itself has. but if you're just aiming to get its content in less space, there are definitely other options — especially from the last couple decades.
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Atrocious Joe posted:You see, Putin is attempting to exterminate all Sunnis from Syria to resettle with Iranians. This is for real and not actually salafist propaganda It's especially funny because they just attacked the evacuation convoys, burned the busses, and killed a few drivers only a couple days ago.
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I know hegemonically liberal communities that are still able to have a sensible discussion about Syria/Ukraine & Russia in relation to them. D&D has basically been taken over by a reactionary (anti-)nationalism on the topic that interprets dissent as evidence of being an enemy agent. The liberal ideals of dispassionate analysis and polite discussion would be a marked improvement.
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Hey guys I got my hot take published https://twitter.com/GershKuntzman/status/811235909484081153 NY Daily News is the liberalish tabloid right?
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yeah, NY Post is the pre-fascist murdoch rag
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Atrocious Joe posted:Hey guys I got my hot take published liberals want to be Herschel Grynszpan but really they're more like Bernhard Goetz
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Herschel Grynzspan was a SS agent and the killing of the ambassador was a false flag as William Gass proved in The Tunnel.
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I realize twitter drama is part of how DSA gets publicity but uhhh https://twitter.com/Cato_of_Utica/status/811355798026612736
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why would anyone want to party with people who aren't insane or broken sounds boring
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Can we talk about what actual full communism would look like for a minute?
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:Can we talk about what actual full communism would look like for a minute? Here's a short documentary I've seen that cleared things up for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM-Vn_IZHx8
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:Can we talk about what actual full communism would look like for a minute? You are On. The. Air.
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:Can we talk about what actual full communism would look like for a minute? 
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rudatron posted:Okay? Talk. Everyone will get a free vape of their choice!* *Not available in Hawaii
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I'm sorry that you got that idea from him, THIS is what the DSA is all about : https://twitter.com/LeavittAlone/status/810904897071812608
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What's the consensus best electoral outlet if not the DSA (which I know has like no actual people in office beside board of trustee poo poo)? PSL?
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