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TheMadMilkman posted:Quick question before I hit submit on a Framemeister order. Just another yup. The only time I've seen Japanese scart required is because well, Japanese doujin dance modded pc engine. But you can just buy the cable for like ten bucks or if you message doujin dance, I think he'll do a euro one if you ask.
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Ineffiable posted:Just another yup. The only time I've seen Japanese scart required is because well, Japanese doujin dance modded pc engine. But you can just buy the cable for like ten bucks or if you message doujin dance, I think he'll do a euro one if you ask. When i got one from him years back it was Euro scart and i didn't have to ask.
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univbee posted:When i got one from him years back it was Euro scart and i didn't have to ask. I think I might have gotten my framemeister and the pc engine at the same time so I told him JP was fine because my framemeister was bundled with a JP one from Rakuten. Hey guys, remember Rakuten?
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Zonekeeper posted:Don't know if anyone else's Krikzz orders are on the same boat as mine, but my Black Friday order finally arrived in the states and is moving though the post system again. Mine still has no tracking number.  Poor guy must've gotten really overwhelmed with orders.
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Ineffiable posted:I think I might have gotten my framemeister and the pc engine at the same time so I told him JP was fine because my framemeister was bundled with a JP one from Rakuten. I just used it to get a Famicom mini (Through Buyee). But yes I remember when I got good cheap Famicom games there. 
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Ineffiable posted:That seems really weird. It should just take that 1080p content and multiply it by four pixels. You've tried different picture modes even? It is a issue with that TV. I talked to LG about it and evidently it is a known issue with how their scaler works. I guess it is doing a different way of upscaling content than other manufacturers which for video content actually looks and works a lot better but for games it is rear end. Supposedly there will be a firmware update "in the future" that will address this. I guess they got a lot of complaints after the NES mini came out. I imagine they weren't expecting it at all.
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Ineffiable posted:That seems really weird. It should just take that 1080p content and multiply it by four pixels. You've tried different picture modes even? I've tried every single available setting in both the regular menu and the 'advanced' menu. The only way to make it marginally better is to pass the Framemeister output through a DVDO iScan Micro 4k which passes a 4k signal to the TV and prevents the TV from attempting to scale/interpolate. I would bet that the LG isn't the only 4k TV that exhibits this unwanted scaling behavior. I hear that Panasonic 4k TVs do have a 1080 x 4 pixel scaling option. At this point, I'm stuck with a Framemeister that I can't really use to its full potential. Edit: My other 'fix' is to turn on the CRT filter in the NES Classic Edition - which, by looking lovely, actually looks better to my eyes than the rounded-off pixels. I'm praying that LG releases some kind of firmware update to solve this. Until then, I'll be playing most of my retro games on my 14" PVM. plasticbugs fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Dec 19, 2016 |
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plasticbugs posted:I've tried every single available setting in both the regular menu and the 'advanced' menu. The only way to make it marginally better is to pass the Framemeister output through a DVDO iScan Micro 4k which passes a 4k signal to the TV and prevents the TV from attempting to scale/interpolate. I would bet that the LG isn't the only 4k TV that exhibits this unwanted scaling behavior. Don't xboxes have hdmi pass through too? I could imagine buying a used Xbox Scorpio so it could do hdmi pass through with 4k. But sounds like you might have a firmware update in the future.
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Mace Bacon posted:I just used it to get a Famicom mini (Through Buyee). Yeah that's what I mean, it used to be a Haven for cheap retro games. Now they changed the rules and ebay is as cheap as it gets without actually going to the country.
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Ineffiable posted:Don't xboxes have hdmi pass through too? I could imagine buying a used Xbox Scorpio so it could do hdmi pass through with 4k. You wouldn't want to use that for gaming, there is a bit of delay.
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Zonekeeper posted:Don't know if anyone else's Krikzz orders are on the same boat as mine, but my Black Friday order finally arrived in the states and is moving though the post system again. Mine too. Got the notification that it arrived in New York. Hopefully it will get here this week, since I'm off work all next week. Ineffiable posted:Just another yup. The only time I've seen Japanese scart required is because well, Japanese doujin dance modded pc engine. But you can just buy the cable for like ten bucks or if you message doujin dance, I think he'll do a euro one if you ask. Thank you to you and everyone else who responded. I'll be putting in my order today, and then [im]patiently waiting for it to ship in late January.
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fishmech posted:You wouldn't want to use that for gaming, there is a bit of delay. Fair enough. Serious question, is there an hdmi device that would do pass through without delay? Just for trying to get a framemeister to play nice with 4k tvs. Or something that might take 1080p and post it as 4k? Im sure something will be made in the future 4k is only just starting to be a thing after all.
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There's a lot of HDMI to 4k upscalers already, but you're gonna have to look for one that doesn't do the pixel rounding and doesn't introduce input delay yourself. I doubt there's anyone who's looked really closely at these yet.
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I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that my PVM will hold up. Maybe I should try to find a spare CRT? Gave my last one away to a friend after getting the current monitor. All this upscaler - be it Framemeister or the OSSC - talk seems just needlessly expensive and complicated compared to just hooking my stuff up to a good CRT/PVM.
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Got my Super Everdrive from the black Friday sale like 10 days ago. I ordered it very quickly the first day of the sale, perhaps within the first few hours.
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Elliotw2 posted:There's a lot of HDMI to 4k upscalers already, but you're gonna have to look for one that doesn't do the pixel rounding and doesn't introduce input delay yourself. I doubt there's anyone who's looked really closely at these yet. Yeah the real thing is if it doesn't do pixel rounding and also doesn't introduce input delay. But this is fine as long as you get a good TV. Worse case I guess, we can buy low latency oled monitors one day for cheap. I wouldn't mind putting down $100 bucks for one in the future.
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Ha my "spare" CRT poo poo the bed recently, so now I am down to just my main one I use for retro gaming. I don't know what the hell I am going to do when it dies. Realistically probably grab another smaller CRT, or bite the bullet and mod my NES.
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TeaJay posted:I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that my PVM will hold up. Maybe I should try to find a spare CRT? Gave my last one away to a friend after getting the current monitor. All this upscaler - be it Framemeister or the OSSC - talk seems just needlessly expensive and complicated compared to just hooking my stuff up to a good CRT/PVM. find a nice consumer trinitron wega with component inputs from craigslist or a thrift store, not as good as a PVM but still way better than scaling on a LCD imo. use one of these guys to convert your RGB, there are cheaper models that cost like $50 but they are trash
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Incidentally, recently bought that specific That said, the seller and I have been in contact over the issue, and I'm just biding my time until I can put into effect his suggestion of experimenting with a 75Ω resistor between each of the outputs and ground to see what happens. (Though confessedly, not having done anything circuitry-related since sophomore year of high school, I'm not entirely sure where "ground" is on this circuit - negative pole of the power supply?) Shadow Hog fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Shadow Hog posted:Incidentally, recently bought that specific upscaler to replace the cheapo Chinese $50 one that doesn't even have audio ports, but discovered that, on my Trinitron, it renders everything very, very green. first off if you're talking about the thing I posted, it's not an upscaler but an endcoder. I haven't actually used that one but I recommended it after hearing reports that it was a good replacement for the CSY-2100/Ambery SDV-4 class of devices which I don't think are being made anymore (that's what I use and it's been perfect, after returning two of the lovely $50 ones). people also highly recommend this device if that ebay one doesn't work out for you
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d0s posted:first off if you're talking about the thing I posted, it's not an upscaler but an endcoder.  Not sure how that slipped in - especially since it's a 480i CRT TV I was using it on, no upscaling to speak of.
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Random Stranger posted:Who likes nightmarishly bad games? I mean the kind of games that make you hate life? Then boy do I have a game for you. Have you heard of Virtuoso? And to think, this is one of the games that made me want a 3DO
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I have a GB player, but I need to do the SD card mod to my Gamecube to get the proper software running (GBA/GBI-LL, I think? From a 90 minute gameboy history video I watched), because apparently the stock software (that I paid a fortune for) is poo poo? Whatever. It's awesome anyway. My Fiancee was 100% convinced that the GBA (standard) she had as a kid had backlighting. I explained up and down that no, only the SP had it, but she was convinced. Considering that she lived in the literal backwoods of Idaho from ages 6-18, I was doubtful. But she really wanted a GBA last year for Christmas.A quicker option, rather than arguing, was just ebaying her a GBA that had the AGS-101 mod done on it 
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:I have a GB player, but I need to do the SD card mod to my Gamecube to get the proper software running (GBA/GBI-LL, I think? From a 90 minute gameboy history video I watched), because apparently the stock software (that I paid a fortune for) is poo poo? Whatever. It's awesome anyway. Yeah, original GBA did not have backlighting though not too long after release, the advent of Afterburner kits appeared which added a front light to the screen. That was the de facto way to light mod GBA's back then until GBA SP screen harvesting was a thing. And yes, AGS-101 modding is good if you have a busted one or are able to get a screen (alibaba apparently has some).  Edit: Clear buttons courtesy of Kitsch-Bent. 8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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Hell yeah I got some Gameboy games today Proud to join this club.
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Yeah, I did an afterburner kit back in the day. No joke, my first soldering project. My [step]-dad (a board-level electrician, who got his degree in circuit design, currently works doing elevator and fire panel electrician work) was more than happy to help me do the kit  . He had tried a model plane beforehand, but this is what really kicked our relationship off.She was just absolutely convinced she had one. I wanted to remind her that AGS-101 cable converters weren't even a thing back then, but really she just wanted to play GBA. This year's christmas was going to be a flash cart, but real life expenses came in the way. As an aside, I really want to get a "Return to Dinosaur Land" cart. Just got the SNES set back up in preparation for Star Fox 2.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:I have a GB player, but I need to do the SD card mod to my Gamecube to get the proper software running (GBA/GBI-LL, I think? From a 90 minute gameboy history video I watched), because apparently the stock software (that I paid a fortune for) is poo poo? Whatever. It's awesome anyway. Yeah, after buying the player and disc, though not at an unreasonable amount, i paid RRP for it, I watched the same video and so I also plan to get one of those SD adapters, which they are somehow still selling on the codejunkies website. Just have to get the gamecube out of the attic when I get home for christmas. Question though: I have the gamestop branded Wii/PS2/Xbox component cable, will that work at all with the Gamecube? I heard the official cables have a DAC in them that converts the signal, so I'm guessing I'l just have to go get a scart lead for it welp
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fruitpunch posted:Question though: I have the gamestop branded Wii/PS2/Xbox component cable, will that work at all with the Gamecube? I heard the official cables have a DAC in them that converts the signal, so I'm guessing I'l just have to go get a scart lead for it welp It won't work since the Gamecube uses a cable with the special chip in it, as you've noted. Also, if you're in a PAL region and have a PAL-format Gamecube, I don't think those do component video output in any form anyway, so RGB over SCART would be your only real high-end video output option to begin with.
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Kthulhu5000 posted:It won't work since the Gamecube uses a cable with the special chip in it, as you've noted. Also, if you're in a PAL region and have a PAL-format Gamecube, I don't think those do component video output in any form anyway, so RGB over SCART would be your only real high-end video output option to begin with. RGB over SCART it is then. Next question: should i get the CSYNC or normal SCART cables from retrogamingcables? what's the difference?
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RE: The recent GBA chat: Has anyone ordered one of these BTO GBAs? It looks like a pretty convenient way to get a back lit AGB-001 without doing the modding yourself. I'm wondering if the screens used here are newly made or if they are salvaged AGS-101 screens. Not necessarily against the idea of a new screen but the 101 screens were awesome and I wouldn't want a step down.
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Random Stranger posted:I genuinely like the G&W Gallery packages in terms of giving you a nice stack of light games that can be fun for a ten or fifteen minute burst. And G&WG4 has twenty games in it so there's a lot available. The problem is that getting 1000 points in a G&W title takes forever since you're typically earning a point about every five to ten seconds and you have to earn that kind of score in multiple titles to unlock things. You can scum 20 stars by having two GBAs and a link cable and solo playing the 2 player modes for Boxing and Donkey Kong 3. But yeah, it takes quite a while to get Zelda the normal way, especially once you've plowed through the games you actually really like and have to dig into the ones that are... fine, I guess. I did it, though, and it was worth it. Mario's Bomb's Away, Climber, and Bombsweeper are all pretty great, too, and a refreshing change from the common G&W formula of "catch these things!"
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Anyone here got a gscartsw? I do and it's like the best thing. Before this I just had a SCART->BNC fanout cable with a sync stripper built in, but a lot of systems wouldn't work, I think from a lack of power on a certain pin to power the sync stripper. The auto switching works well and lets me leave a few systems out at a time without swapping around the single SCART plug.  Usually my living room table isn't even big enough to fill all eight ports: 
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Is that a 25 inch PVM? I'm so jelly right now. Do you have to open it up to adjust the picture settings?d0s posted:find a nice consumer trinitron wega with component inputs from craigslist or a thrift store, not as good as a PVM but still way better than scaling on a LCD imo. use one of these guys to convert your RGB, there are cheaper models that cost like $50 but they are trash This is euroland though. I don't really have the room for a big CRT TV in addition of my PVM and my regular Samsung HDTV anyway. TeaJay fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Dec 20, 2016 |
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TeaJay posted:Is that a 25 inch PVM? I'm so jelly right now. Do you have to open it up to adjust the picture settings? 29". Lucky craigslist score back in 2013  It has like four pages of on-screen menus so I've never had to open it 
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Only Shallow posted:I do and it's like the best thing. Before this I just had a SCART->BNC fanout cable with a sync stripper built in, but a lot of systems wouldn't work, I think from a lack of power on a certain pin to power the sync stripper. Looks like you need to buy another one and daisy chain them.
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At parents' house, have located N64 and confirmed working order. Surprised analog sticks held up through than ideal storage. Trying to talk myself out of an Everdrive because I'd only have it sitting around as a novelty, but slowly failing.
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Only Shallow posted:29". Lucky craigslist score back in 2013 Well now even more so. Can't even imagine how much that thing must weigh. A 25 (or even 29) PVM in working order is kinda like my holy grail, the pinnacle of my hardware collecting. Here in Finland even regular ones are on short supply and I fully realize I was lucky to get a good deal on my current one (20M4E) which was maintained over the years. But one can always dream.
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My Lovely Horse posted:At parents' house, have located N64 and confirmed working order. Surprised analog sticks held up through than ideal storage. Trying to talk myself out of an Everdrive because I'd only have it sitting around as a novelty, but slowly failing. You can't say this and not tell us what games it has with it. It's a requirement, dammit!  .
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