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The Sin of Onan
Oct 11, 2012

And below,
watched by eyes of steel
we dreamt

Murrah posted:

I heard crusher lost some portfolios

I am happy

I am not happy about basically everything else about 2016

One of the ones she managed to pick up was the one I'm currently a grunt-tier contractor in, so I am not happy about that at all.

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Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




She's gonna crush all your poo poo.

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action
She totally seems like the type to take her rage out hard on her subordinates

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


The Sin of Onan posted:

One of the ones she managed to pick up was the one I'm currently a grunt-tier contractor in, so I am not happy about that at all.

I lost Pauly B and got Amy Adams as my ultimate boss. I... Think that's a step up?

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Still stuck with Hekia. For gently caress's sake. :negative:




Ratios and Tendency posted:

The narrative they're going with is that Labour is wasting tax-payer money on yet another frivilous by-election.

That's the narrative the Nats and Barry Soper may be pushing, but the majority of the articles after English's announcement that they're sitting the Mt Albert election out was about how they're already conceding, and in the case of Stuff, "chickening out."



Murrah posted:

I heard crusher lost some portfolios

I am happy

I am not happy about basically everything else about 2016

She got Corrections and Police taken off of her and got given high workload but low visibility ones instead (Revenue, Ethnic Affairs, and Energy & Resources) while she took a bump down the rankings by two places.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Dec 20, 2016

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.

Vagabundo posted:


She got Corrections and Police taken off of her and got given high workload but low visibility ones instead (Revenue, Ethnic Affairs, and Energy & Resources) while she took a bump down the rankings by two places.

That's gotta sting more than a little bit

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


I bet she's crushed

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

The Sin of Onan posted:

One of the ones she managed to pick up was the one I'm currently a grunt-tier contractor in, so I am not happy about that at all.

Same here, except I'm a regular full time employee

My flatmate works at Corrections and had a bloody good laugh at my expense when she found out

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Hopefully her budget for sending out glossy flyers with her mug on every page 5 times will shrink correspondingly, that would be nice.

Murrah
Mar 22, 2015

long post is long

I have posted I think this sameish message once or even twice before- anyways 2016 has been an awful year for many reasons/seems to have been hard for many people. I am trying to sit back in my chair and appreciate some things and one this is again I feel an incredible amount of festive thanks for the public healthcare I received in New Zealand. Its really dark and cold here where I am now so its taking me back to like winter 14'

It was in the middle of winter in Dunedin's aslyum-esque hospital up in the hills and one of the worst times of my life. My mood disorder had finally jumped off the chart enough to get a diagnosis after struggling with treatments for a few years but it not being bad or clear enough to get an accurate diagnosis/medication. This episode occurred at an awful time and completely derailed my planned career path and pretty quickly made it clear to me I had to re-assess all of my life's goals because this was a permanent and uncurable condition that I would have to manage. In the hospital I made friends with a guy who worked at pike river mine and also avoided being assaulted once by a massive fulla with strong intellectual disability and eating disorders. poo poo was bleak. Really bleak.

Anyways I walked out of the hospital pretty much direct into a clinical depression that lasted 2-3 months and I was unemployed. Importantly though I walked out debt free and even though WINZ was not fun in the slightest and has problems for sure it was at least a somewhat manageable, direct and helpful agency as in it payed a predictable cash-money payment into my account with only a week stand-down. It was enough $$ to live and even buy a tinny to distract myself. After providing sufficient medical information I didn't get hassled at least as a first timer at WINZ. I had access to somewhat vibrant and usually free art and music events in a reasonably walkable city. After a while I didn't wanna die so much and was looking for work more seriously.

There wasn't much work but I got a job where I was supervising people with intellectual disabilities. I got assigned several men with convictions because I am a tallish man and had my guard up generally I think. I didn't tell my employers about my health conditions/hospitalisation months earlier... kinda buzzy it was like a 4-5 month turnaround from being in hospital to being in a legally accountable caregiving/supervising position over others. And I was actually doing a really good job too and got praise and I did a good job until the day I resigned. While I saw whole system was imperfect and stretched in many ways I still realized that this criminal justice option of home detention with supervision in the community was by most comparisons an incredibly progressive, caring policy. I got to see some real progress in at least one person who started being successful selling some of his crafts. I began to feel good and smug again that I was now contributing something.

It took a long rear end time and taking medication every single day to stabilize but I haven't experienced anything remotely like that episode. I have taken 1092000mg something total now of this ancient salt drug I take each day. I still felt such a stigma and desire to escape on an OE basically like all my peers- I am living in the USA now I am now working full-timeish hours in a new field after retraining in web development and earning an actually pretty reasonable wage. I know for a fact that I would have been absolutely, completely, WAY, WAY more hosed if I was here in the USA if anything of this happened. Like my life would be far, far worse right now, and probably shorter or already fin.

Every single agency or public-facing service here seems to be completely immiserated even with obviously awesome well intentioned people trying to make them work. The systems here are either intentionally or neglected so much it seems hard enoigh for me as a supposed educated, fed and housed person to navigate any aspects of social services. Forms are terribly designed and not intuitive. Regularly you are given phone numbers to call about things and then someone answers telling you to fax something or just bullshit. The waiting music for studylink is absolutely nothing on the stuff over here

I have already had to change insurance providers because my first provider has decided to withdraw from the healthcare.gov exchange because United Healthcare owned it and decided it wasn't making enough money. I cant tell you how bad the insurance paperwork and bureaucracy is here. I now understand why Americans are so insanely resistant to change in this area because once you have *something* working, even if it is really poo poo, you just want it to stay the same and be predictable given how much grief is involved. I am so utterly glad I got the advice and the diagnosis I did in New Zealand because getting anything like the help I got there over here... well frankly I just dont know if it exists without having incredible amounts of money

It might be a few years once I get the PQE every returning Kiwi apparently needs to take a paycut for an ok job but Ill be back, no doubt.

Merry Christmas

Murrah fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Dec 21, 2016

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




I have been in a&e so many times I can't even remember the count. Most notable times was when I wrecked my knee playing sports, fell down a hill on the farm and wrecked my arm and when I completely smashed myself after being hit by a car travelling at 35-40kp/h

I've had in excess of half a million bucks of surgery and related costs done on me. I've paid $150 of that and won't have to pay any more. The Acc form is like a page. Easy. Thanks. It's not a perfect system but it worked for me so I can't really complain about it.

I am the reason why your car rego is so expensive.

Shits different if you need intellectual help I have to say. I am lucky with my employer where they provide that service [off site and confidential] if you need it, for free. Haven't needed it yet but nice to know it's there.

Hope poo poo gets better for you over there buddy.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Last time I went into hospital was at 7 to get my adenoids out. They regenerated anyway.

Maybe I live too boring a life.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Stay well Murrah. I feel yah.

I am currently on a new medication that isn't subsidised and wow, poo poo gets expensive quick. I am trying to get special funding(It has this option) for it as I do not function in any sort of consistent manner without it. Unfortunately I haven't heard back from my specialist and the GP has forwarded my concerns. I know there are hoops I need to jump through so faster I can get it done, the better it is.

Mental health funding is sort of on a knife edge as more NGOs are being forced to cover the shortfall. It most certainly could do with more funding to increase access to specialists beyond once a month with a packed schedule. They do their best they can with the resources at hand and I cannot fault them. Without this support I would be in a very bad way.

If I lived in the US I would likely be homeless, in prison or even dead. Lots of money saved for everybody even with the under funded system we have.

Last time I got injured enough to some sort of emergence room was when I slammed my head into some objects playing airplane as a kid. It was the second time I did it and in almost the same place. gently caress White Cross and their outrageous pricing, even as a kid it was absurd.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Owned.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.





Owned was for the regeneration

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

oohhboy posted:

Stay well Murrah. I feel yah.

I am currently on a new medication that isn't subsidised and wow, poo poo gets expensive quick. I am trying to get special funding(It has this option) for it as I do not function in any sort of consistent manner without it. Unfortunately I haven't heard back from my specialist and the GP has forwarded my concerns. I know there are hoops I need to jump through so faster I can get it done, the better it is.

Mental health funding is sort of on a knife edge as more NGOs are being forced to cover the shortfall. It most certainly could do with more funding to increase access to specialists beyond once a month with a packed schedule. They do their best they can with the resources at hand and I cannot fault them. Without this support I would be in a very bad way.

If I lived in the US I would likely be homeless, in prison or even dead. Lots of money saved for everybody even with the under funded system we have.

Last time I got injured enough to some sort of emergence room was when I slammed my head into some objects playing airplane as a kid. It was the second time I did it and in almost the same place. gently caress White Cross and their outrageous pricing, even as a kid it was absurd.

what is it? lyrica?

Robo Captain
Sep 28, 2013
I have a chronic condition and I get to see the rheumatologist in the hospital and get x-rays and mri scans for free it's pretty great.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The "Super" drug Modafinil. I have other medications I can't do without, they cost 5 dollars a pop for a quarter, but without this I can't maintain clarity or schedule or doing anything on a consistent level. It use to be everyday I would wake up and my mental state would be different to the day before. Holding down a job would be impossible as I couldn't tell whether I could make it there or not let alone actually being able to do it add in emotional instability to the mix people start avoiding you no matter how much you personally outreach.

Modafinil is a CNS stimulant(Normally used for Narcolepsy) and students supportively take it to enhance their performance in exams like the smart drug from the movie "Limitless". Studies show it doesn't really work like that and it doesn't really make you smarter and it will definitely doesn't help you if you are dumb in the first place. I use it on a semi-off label usage.

For me it really feels like "Limitless" as I feel like my brain is sort of in that child-like state sucking information. I am faster, stronger, I even see/hear without being manic. I am motivated, hold a schedule, sleep much better. Mood has been absolutely consistent. A lot of this feeling is because I have been in such a poo poo state for so long and that this is my base level I should be functioning at. All this without feeling high and as far as I can tell, absolutely no side effects other than my dependence on it.

I almost missed a dose once and I could notice things going side ways in a couple hours. So yeah, I need to find a way to secure my supply indefinitely.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
is it section 29 i wonder. I've only seen it in one dispensary and never dispensed it. I know all about it lol though the nerds over in tcc used to cream their pants over it

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
http://www.pharmac.govt.nz/2017/01/01/SA1126.pdf yeah those criteria are a bit of a dog

to an extent though, if you're talking about non-subsidised medicines, then you can treat pharmacies like a market. they want to make money from you but if you shop around you can find who is prepared to do the best rates on it.. how much have you been paying? looks like pharmac is ready to pony up $72.50 for each box of 30, so that's essentially the wholesale cost.. add gst and you've got the minimum cost and boom just shop for that poo poo. lol pharmacy owners are greedy stingy mother fuckers who would rather make $5 than not

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah, I will shop around for the next batch. Currently $222.22 a month(I thought it was a quarter like everything else, sticker shock right there. I should be able to get Winz to cover it for now. But yeah, I don't have much of an idea how to go about the pharmac sub as I figured the doctors would guide me through this. I will poop off an e-mail to my case worker once I compile the receipts.

I wouldn't really pass that that drug criteria. There are Narcolepsy like symptoms, but no reasonable person would class it as such as falling asleep once in a while during the day isn't it especially with no other symptoms.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
yeah mate you should be able to find a much better price. wish i could help ya directly and if i ran a place i'd look after ya but.. lol glad winz will sort ya

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Thanks for volunteering your help all the same. If it was for a quarter instead of a month I would be far less concerned.

I am unlikely to get replies this close to Christmas anyway and winz usually from experience are willing to back date payments as long as you bring in the paperwork like I do every time. I see a fair number of people when I go there have trouble because they have problems getting those paper for one reason or another. It is actually easier these days as the doctor can electronically send whatever documentation so it saves people a trip especially for those who are far more hard-up than I am.

The first person I saw at winz was a bloody saviour and a massive stroke of good luck who near instantly knew things were crazy bad requiring specialised help. I eventually thanked her with some chocolate. The security dudes got a little jumpy until I told them it was cool. No worries though as they were doing their jobs.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Sounds like I'm crazy in the wrong way. I don't get any of this support - winz got on my case to organise counselling, my GP just printed off a list of everybody in Northland and said figure it out. I went off to the first guy that answered his phone and he's decided I need to adjust my body energies.

Ratios and Tendency fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 21, 2016

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
thats probably your lovely dhb

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Aren't 'counselors' the most laughably unregulated and unqualified profession in health? Every anecdote I've heard implies they let basically anyone do it.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


echinopsis posted:

thats probably your lovely dhb

Should I go be crazy in Dunedin or something

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Slavvy posted:

Aren't 'counselors' the most laughably unregulated and unqualified profession in health? Every anecdote I've heard implies they let basically anyone do it.

Flakey boomers who were given huge amounts of free money to take lsd and hit on psychology students during the 60s/70s is a theme I've noticed.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Ratios and Tendency posted:

Should I go be crazy in Dunedin or something

idk the cdhb seems ok? I don't mean to be a dick but there is quite a difference in the dhbs as far as what actually ends up getting done. :/

Binkenstein
Jan 18, 2010

Look at this article from Stuff: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/87855627/a-supervolcano-caused-the-largest-eruption-in-european-history-now-its-stirring-again

Now look at the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlegraean_Fields

Man, a lot of those images look the same

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin

quote:

- The Washington Post
I doubt the journalist who's name appears at the top over-exerted themselves while "writing" that story

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
I've finally started reading that Reimagining Journalism in NZ book, it's good

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

echinopsis posted:

idk the cdhb seems ok? I don't mean to be a dick but there is quite a difference in the dhbs as far as what actually ends up getting done. :/

My experience with CDHB is that they are great when you get hospitalised but they do sweet gently caress all to stop you actually getting to that point.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

echinopsis posted:

idk the cdhb seems ok? I don't mean to be a dick but there is quite a difference in the dhbs as far as what actually ends up getting done. :/

Why do we have DHBs again? Why is this vast difference in experiences and standards acceptable?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

NZAmoeba posted:

Why do we have decile ratings again? Why is this vast difference in experiences and funding acceptable?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Went shopping around and it turns out I am already at the cheapest place. Others were on average $60 more expensive. Still looking into the Special Authority issue but according the pharmacists that dug the question a little bit more found it can be fully funded. I pretty much to have to wait till next year to get movement on that.

Slavvy posted:

Aren't 'counselors' the most laughably unregulated and unqualified profession in health? Every anecdote I've heard implies they let basically anyone do it.

You don't go to counsellors, you go to psychiatrist for meds and a psychologist to talk your poo poo out. Counsellors are big ??? so you might as well go to a hooker, more bang for buck.

I do recommend Mindfulness courses if they are DHB funded. If the facilitator is any good they are psychologist-lite, they can offer you emotional support/talking therapy for a couple minutes which help get your head straight for just a while, plus the activities themselves can be quite calming/focusing. They can also link you to more services down the line. Ask your GP to get refereed to one if available.

Ratios and Tendency posted:

Sounds like I'm crazy in the wrong way. I don't get any of this support - winz got on my case to organise counselling, my GP just printed off a list of everybody in Northland and said figure it out. I went off to the first guy that answered his phone and he's decided I need to adjust my body energies.

???? I am guessing that Northland list isn't very long? I live in Auckland so I have a lot more options just from the density alone but I feel the pinch all the same. I can't imagine how poo poo it would be outside of the city centres. The funded psychiatrist here is available nearby once a month and you can't chase them down somewhere else. However you can e-mail your provider and if it is something critical like bad med combo they can liaise with the GP to fix it ASAP.

I got "lucky" though and I was more than willing to ask a lot of questions even if it might have been dumb thing to ask.

Next time you go to the GP/specialist bring a list of questions with follow up questions with you. He is yours for that 15~ minutes so you better use it. Same sort of thing with WINZ, sometimes they volunteer information, sometimes you have to ask or dig. Do your best to understand how the process works so you can keep the help coming with minimal fuss. If your GP is any good, he won't care what the folks at WINZ thinks when he writes up the paper work for the help you need and WINZ as an organization won't care either as long as you got the paperwork.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




NZAmoeba posted:

Why do we have DHBs again? Why is this vast difference in experiences and standards acceptable?

Decentralisation. Regions retain control. Let the cities gently caress themselves if that's what they want.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Displeased Moo Cow posted:

Decentralisation. Regions retain control. Let the cities gently caress themselves if that's what they want.

Or the regions get to gently caress themselves too? After all this happened in Waikato: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/87682390/drunk-stressed-doctor-visits-patient-in-hospital

No one knows who the gently caress they're voting for in the DHBs anyway, and NZ can't have that many competent managers to go around.

Basically the idea that the populace of a region has any control over the state of their DHB is utterly bogus, you get control over it by what's effectively a lottery, and no one knows what's going on in there on a daily basis because for most people they might see the inside of a hospital once every 5 years or so.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That is poo poo, victims all round.

When I voted in the locals I pretty much just looked for as many doctors I could stuff the board with.

oohhboy fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Dec 22, 2016

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

oohhboy posted:

Went shopping around and it turns out I am already at the cheapest place. Others were on average $60 more expensive. Still looking into the Special Authority issue but according the pharmacists that dug the question a little bit more found it can be fully funded. I pretty much to have to wait till next year to get movement on that.
that's what the special authority would mean. that's bullshit about the price though. gently caress. some doctors might be nice but you'd be doctor shopping. and maybe have to lie a lot

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