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mishaq posted:if teams can just provide that there's no reason to use slack this requires betting on the ability of microsoft to make a product that doesn't suck and has broad integration support so lol
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uncurable mlady posted:this requires betting on the ability of microsoft to make a product that doesn't suck and has broad integration support yeah lol but slack wanting to charge $13/head/month just to integrate with active directory is going (hopefully) put enough pressure to make teams usable so large organizations can just use it as part of their O365 subscriptions because lol @ paying 5 figgies a month for a loving chat application
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discord for businesses John Fuckface - currently playing Microsoft Excel 2016
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dragon enthusiast posted:discord for businesses literally had a discussion with a coworker today about how discord for business could actually be good
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uncurable mlady posted:this requires betting on the ability of microsoft to make a product that doesn't suck and has broad integration support I put a number of stupid webhook capable apps and baked in "connectors" or other things that I have report through the bot framework in my Teams chat just fine  "@shitbot new ticket `obj coffee $brew`" and then coffee is made
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dragon enthusiast posted:discord for businesses Yeah but what's Tom Shitfucker up to
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Captain Foo posted:Yeah but what's Tom Shitfucker up to Tom Shitfucker - currently playing Cisco WebEx Client (Presenter Mode)
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AAB posted:I put a number of stupid webhook capable apps and baked in "connectors" or other things that I have report through the bot framework in my Teams chat just fine hm. we don't have it enabled so i can't try it out. tbh i think that's a mark against it - no way to try it out unless you have o365 setup already abraham linkedin posted:literally had a discussion with a coworker today about how discord for business could actually be good twitch.tv but for business
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uncurable mlady posted:Tom Shitfucker gently caress, i hope he enables his stream, i tried to join the meeting but I couldnt connect uncurable mlady posted:hm. we don't have it enabled so i can't try it out. finally, a screen sharing solution that isnt laggy as poo poo and can still show the presenter
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i wanna see someone loving rocketjump a pptx because seeing their faces is pretty gd boring and the cisco system we have is wet rear end on a cold day
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lmaoooooooooooo we use office communicator 2007 (yes really) and as part of ~unannounced backend changes~ to support our move to skype for biz next year they've just quietly killed multiple-person screen shares the person in charge of this doesnt think its big enough of a deal to tell anyone 
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PM to vendor: "We had this critical outage yesterday... you guys are Oracle experts so you may recognize this term: kernel panic?"
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Iridium posted:PM to vendor: "We had this critical outage yesterday... you guys are Oracle experts so you may recognize this term: kernel panic?" Col. Panic is Gen. Protection Fault's right hand man
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Podima posted:lmaoooooooooooo we use office communicator 2007 (yes really) lol
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maniacdevnull posted:Col. Panic is Gen. Protection Fault's right hand man
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maniacdevnull posted:Col. Panic is Gen. Protection Fault's right hand man Heh
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maniacdevnull posted:Col. Panic is Gen. Protection Fault's right hand man
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BiohazrD posted:Yeah this is why nobody uses Box since Microsoft added onedrive for business to o365 I don't know anyone who uses box but I know a bunch of people who use one drive and lol @ the idea that a company is gonna pay for whatever box is when onedrive comes w/ their 365 account
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uncurable mlady posted:hm. we don't have it enabled so i can't try it out. teams runs on top of 365 so its a requirement. time 2 replace ur old on premise stuff w/ 365, imo
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I'm gonna move everyone 2 teams some time early next year. good bye 2 skype 4 b.
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I have a few customers using O365 globally and 0 using Box.
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Shaggar posted:I don't know anyone who uses box but I know a bunch of people who use one drive and lol @ the idea that a company is gonna pay for whatever box is when onedrive comes w/ their 365 account they might want to sync shared files to their computers without having to pick from 1 of 4 different applications. the state of the desktop apps for onedrive should be a source of extreme embarrassment.
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you also can't have groups on onedrive for business like I can't create a folder and set it up to be shared to 3-4 people. it's hilariously bad
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we had a few consultants come in today from some company wanting to make money on our upcoming domain + exchange + office365 integration. they had the whole room lit up with their novel ideas and how awesome O365 was...until I mentioned that I've been following the shameful history of OneDrive since it's SkyDrive days, and I asked them how they felt about the stability and ease of use of that particular app/platform. "Well you see...you see OneDrive is basically SharePoint on the backend, and, uh, you really need a team that can tackle that. I mean, first and foremost you need a plan. A really, really solid plan for how you want to tackle the whole thing. And, uh, getting the ACLs right, and the various security pieces. Seriously, a lot of planning." "What did you guys think of that Groove engine debacle a while back? With Sync?" "Yeah, uh, heh, that was kind of a debacle, huh? They, uh, sort of got a black eye from that. MS, that is."
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lol if u think twitch is lag free, it runs a 15-30 sec delay but nobody cares because they are 14 yos also onedrive for biz is nice but the problem is ppl think it will be as easy as their home dropbox or w/e then they gently caress their stuff up bad
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Dealing with MS and their 'good enough' products is so poo poo. What is also poo poo is having a CIO who was an ex-MS executive. Conversations go like this: 1) We're putting a plan together to move to Office 365 hosted by MS 2) Everyone 'No, you can't do this!' 3) Security (me) does an assessment reviewing all security controls, etc etc, ultimate recommendation: It's poo poo (the core of which being their DLP solutions were poo poo and they went 'PCI? LOL gently caress YOU, JUST DONT BUT PCI DATA IN O365' to a credit card company. The actual suggestion was 'Just make a policy that makes it against the rules to upload PAN data', like, just a written rule in a PDF no one reads. Not an actual GPO or policy in their DLP tool. gently caress those people. 4) Other vendors make their pitch for better products which EVERYONE but the CIO was impressed with 5) CIO ignore all recommendations and says go ahead and start implementing MS I don't even understand why, he's not getting any kick back, he also basically got fired from MS (well, 'coached out' and MS helped him get recruited elsewhere). So why kissing up to MS. Things to get excited about: 1) It comes with free upgrades 4 lyfe* 2) Comes with Yammer. I think in total 10 people in the company used it 3) Sharepoint on prem will no longer be supported so we HAVE to move to the cloud That was it. * so long as you renew your contract every year, forever
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if you're already paying for office + software assurance perpetually then yeah its cheaper
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Yammer and Nest have a few things in common, most of all their life expectancy.
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:I don't even understand why, he's not getting any kick back, he also basically got fired from MS (well, 'coached out' and MS helped him get recruited elsewhere). So why kissing up to MS. Because certain people only know how to do one thing one way and will force things down that path in perpetuity rather than actually learn something or explore beyond their comfort zone.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Because certain people only know how to do one thing one way and will force things down that path in perpetuity rather than actually learn something or explore beyond their comfort zone. You mean like that time a client of mine (stock exchange) went from a mainframe to oracle for processing and Oracle waaaaaaayyy over promised and the day they switched over it died and 6 months later they tripled the number of servers and turned it in again and the traders revolted cause it was a lovely oracle Web interface so they took it offline for a year and paid oracle to make a cmd.exe interface to look EXACTLY like the mainframe interface. Because the new CIO they hired was a sales exec from Oracle.
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:You mean like that time a client of mine (stock exchange) went from a mainframe to oracle for processing and Oracle waaaaaaayyy over promised and the day they switched over it died and 6 months later they tripled the number of servers and turned it in again and the traders revolted cause it was a lovely oracle Web interface so they took it offline for a year and paid oracle to make a cmd.exe interface to look EXACTLY like the mainframe interface. hooooooly lol
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:You mean like that time a client of mine (stock exchange) went from a mainframe to oracle for processing and Oracle waaaaaaayyy over promised and the day they switched over it died and 6 months later they tripled the number of servers and turned it in again and the traders revolted cause it was a lovely oracle Web interface so they took it offline for a year and paid oracle to make a cmd.exe interface to look EXACTLY like the mainframe interface. lot to process here
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:You mean like that time a client of mine (stock exchange) went from a mainframe to oracle for processing and Oracle waaaaaaayyy over promised and the day they switched over it died and 6 months later they tripled the number of servers and turned it in again and the traders revolted cause it was a lovely oracle Web interface so they took it offline for a year and paid oracle to make a cmd.exe interface to look EXACTLY like the mainframe interface. between you and that guy in the gray forum I'm convinced that IT anywhere near the stock exchange is a hopeless pit of despair
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my services team used yammer for a while and it was good. it provided a nice little internal user community to ask questions when our implementation folks got stuck trying to solve a customer problem (which is always because we provide zero training and also they are garbage). it eventually died out because people stopped checking it.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:between you and that guy in the gray forum I'm convinced that IT anywhere near the stock exchange is a hopeless pit of ftfy
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BiohazrD posted:you also can't have groups on onedrive for business yeah you can
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:You mean like that time a client of mine (stock exchange) went from a mainframe to oracle for processing and Oracle waaaaaaayyy over promised and the day they switched over it died and 6 months later they tripled the number of servers and turned it in again and the traders revolted cause it was a lovely oracle Web interface so they took it offline for a year and paid oracle to make a cmd.exe interface to look EXACTLY like the mainframe interface. rereading this and remembering that enterprise computing is an incestuous cesspit of idiot hellfuckers
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Shaggar posted:I don't know anyone who uses box but I know a bunch of people who use one drive and lol @ the idea that a company is gonna pay for whatever box is when onedrive comes w/ their 365 account we have o365 and box because we had box first and our it is bad but to be fair who the gently caress wants to migrate all that poo poo
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