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Captain von Trapp posted:Yeah, characters have made jokes before, but as far as I know this is the first straight up pun. Vader has been sarcastic a lot - "Apology accepted, Captain Needa" - "We would be honored if you would join us" - "Then perhaps you can tell him yourself" but so far the only character indulging in puns has been C-3PO during the arena battle on Geonosis. - "I'm quite beside myself" - "This is such a drag" Although I seem to remember a bit from the Revenge of the Sith script that was thankfully unused in the final film but I think made it into the novelization. When Anakin goes to kill the Separatist leaders on Mustafar, there's an exchange along the lines of "But Lord Sidious promised to leave us in peace!" to which Vader replies "No, he said he'd leave you in pieces" There isn't an eyeroll emoticon big enough for all of this.
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When he was choking Krennic he really should have said, "NOW this is pod racing!"
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Dec 22, 2016 00:34
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I like Sassy Vader, it underlines his campier qualities.
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Dec 22, 2016 00:54
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We need more Sassy Vader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0rwG39Jzk
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Dec 22, 2016 00:55
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PiedPiper posted:I hear a lot of people say "Apology accepted, captain Needa" is a similar joke, but I couldn't agree less. I've always seen that line as a reminder to everybody present at the scene: "Please don't let me down, you see how this ends." I can totally see it as spontaneous. I thought it made sense in the context of the scene as it plays out. The entire time Vader is wondering about Krennec's motivations for coming there, gleaning more and more out of him as the conversation goes on. Krennic reveals over the short time that he's only there to get credit for something going well for once, and then oversteps his boundaries by essentially whining about Tarkin and wanting his position of command. In that situation I totally believe Vader would revel in an elaborate pun while putting Krennec in his place.
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Dec 22, 2016 01:03
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TraderStav posted:It's hard to explain, but I did notice that his helmet was more 'disconnected' from the outfit than in previous movies? If that makes any sense? As if it was more over the cape. Maybe I just never noticed it before, but it seemed like it was either bigger or the cape/armor was smaller. He had the same look in Star Wars:  Since this movie was a love letter to Star Wars in the best way, they kept the original (cheaper and cheap looking) Vader costume since that is what Vader was wearing at the time. There are tons of comparisons of the different Vader costumes. The R1 Vader looks like Star Wars Vader.
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Dec 22, 2016 01:04
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The biggest quirks of the IV Vader mask are the red eyes, the more angled brown line, the small chin triangle. They cleaned it up in subsequent movies, ultimately making the III mask super perfect and symmetrical. Counting on someone here to add Little Orphan Ani lines to Vader's corridor massacre. "I'll try spinning, that's a neat trick" edit: also it's not confirmed but since we are in the VIII spoiler thread, it appears the Celebration badges may be our first look at Finn and Rey from VIII.
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Dec 22, 2016 01:08
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I like Sassy Vader, it underlines his campier qualities. I'm not saying you can't have a compelling campy villain, but camp generally implies a level of winking ironic self-awareness that's not especially compatible with an escapist Wagnerian space fantasy.
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Dec 22, 2016 02:00
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E: Ignore.
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Dec 22, 2016 02:09
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Funny how the titles have remained Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi after all these years. A New Hope never stuck.
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Dec 22, 2016 02:19
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Thundercracker posted:When he was choking Krennic he really should have said, "NOW this is pod racing!" haha
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Dec 22, 2016 02:23
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I honestly can't tell what the authors of this were trying to do with blind monk and heavy FPS class guy. Like were they supposed to be a couple? was the movie queer baiting? Was the movie just scripted so weird a friendship came off as romantic? Like heavy was cradling monk in his arms saying they'd see eachother again in force heaven by the end.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:06
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly can't tell what the authors of this were trying to do with blind monk and heavy FPS class guy. Like were they supposed to be a couple? was the movie queer baiting? Was the movie just scripted so weird a friendship came off as romantic? Like heavy was cradling monk in his arms saying they'd see eachother again in force heaven by the end. I think it was a bit of cowardice on their part not to make it explicit but they were lovers and it was pretty nice I thought
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Dec 22, 2016 04:13
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly can't tell what the authors of this were trying to do with blind monk and heavy FPS class guy. Like were they supposed to be a couple? was the movie queer baiting? Was the movie just scripted so weird a friendship came off as romantic? Like heavy was cradling monk in his arms saying they'd see eachother again in force heaven by the end. It's pretty standard war movie stuff. It could definitely be read as them being lovers, for sure, but even if you don't it's not out of the ordinary.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:38
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ITT if theres no penetration its Cowardice.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:39
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Baron Porkface posted:ITT if theres no penetration its Cowardice. yeah this is clearly what i meant instead of that disney are too protective of the star wars brand to deal with the backlash from morons that there would be if they were explicitly said to be a couple it is unambiguously a good thing to have a gay couple in star wars, it would have been a better thing if the mouse wasn't too chickenshit to have it be explicit
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Dec 22, 2016 04:41
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly can't tell what the authors of this were trying to do with blind monk and heavy FPS class guy. Like were they supposed to be a couple? was the movie queer baiting? Was the movie just scripted so weird a friendship came off as romantic? Like heavy was cradling monk in his arms saying they'd see eachother again in force heaven by the end. "How can we capitalize on the Chinese market?" That's it. They worked out really well given their restraints.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:45
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly can't tell what the authors of this were trying to do with blind monk and heavy FPS class guy. Like were they supposed to be a couple? was the movie queer baiting? Was the movie just scripted so weird a friendship came off as romantic? Like heavy was cradling monk in his arms saying they'd see eachother again in force heaven by the end. Two long-time friends who were once fellow Guardians of the Whills remain friends despite one of them, Baze, losing his faith in the Force-based religion while Chirrut continues to believe (he's blind but he can "see," in this sense). As the movie progresses we see Baze scoff at Chirrut's prayers, but the monk continues in this fashion regardless. He even shows his competence at a couple points (that "seeing" idea again, but different this time), with the latter being his final act. After avoiding dozens of blaster bolts and activating the crucial switch for Bodhi's communications array, he finally runs out of luck. Baze is devastated by Chirrut's death, yet moved by his act of bravery (and the unbelievable manner in which it occurred) he starts praying again after all those years and fights on until his last. They could easily be friends or lovers, and it doesn't matter whch one you think it is. That's what interpretation is about.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:58
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Would've been less awkward if they pulled a Forrest Gump and just green-screened Kennick in Ep 4's Tarkin scenes James Earl Jones sounds like he himself has to take a deep pull from an oxygen mask before doing his Vader lines. And people bitching about Chirrut using the Force as a plothole consider this: The Force is the ur-example used of something that makes something happen just for the hell of it so shhhhh It's a drat shame we know what happens to the Death Star because goddamn was it used to terrific effect I appreciated the death star laser hitting Krandall on the tower with pinpoint accuracy and I want to think it was the will of the force that that happened
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Dec 22, 2016 05:27
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Given that the Force is a hippy reinterpretation of Zen and Chan is the Dao, having a wuxia hero makes total sense.
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Dec 22, 2016 05:35
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Shbobdb posted:"How can we capitalize on the Chinese market?" Did it do any pandering to China beyond literally allowing an Asian in the movie at all?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Did it do any pandering to China beyond literally allowing an Asian in the movie at all? Wuxia master and Big Gun Badass both appeal very strongly to key demographics in the Chinese population. Edit: Don't mention that he's Zatoichi Edit2: Don't mention that they are a Zatoichi pastiche. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Just don't tell me he has made jokes like that before when he hasn't. Some loving truth benders in here. You can like something that has faults. You can admit to those faults and still like it in spite of those faults. But to bend the truth impedes our ability to honestly talk about the films.
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Dec 22, 2016 05:58
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Calaveron posted:I appreciated the death star laser hitting Krandall on the tower with pinpoint accuracy and I want to think it was the will of the force that that happened P sure that was Tarkin's intent, actually.
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Dec 22, 2016 06:30
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I might just be imagining things, but I'm sure Tarkin gave a tiny smug little smile when he ordered Krennic's death by superlaser
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Dec 22, 2016 07:04
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it's funny that, to those two this was basically just a workplace dispute
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rear end Catchcum posted:Just don't tell me he has made jokes like that before when he hasn't. Some loving truth benders in here. Watch The Clone Wars series, brougham.
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Dec 22, 2016 16:45
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Filthy Casual posted:Watch The Clone Wars series, brougham. Why would anyone do that.
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Dec 22, 2016 16:48
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Why would anyone do that. It's actually really good?
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Dec 22, 2016 16:51
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Rogue 7 posted:It's actually really good? I'll take your word for it, brougham.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Why would anyone do that. It's loving awesome.
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Dec 22, 2016 17:30
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If anyone wants to post Vader making a pun in the clone wars cartoon would love to see it.
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Dec 22, 2016 17:37
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I'll take your word for it, brougham. No really. Clone Wars and Rebels are both great. Clone Wars has a few episodes (out of like 95) that aren't all that great, but the majority are excellent Star Wars tales. Rebels is almost always great.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:07
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rear end Catchcum posted:If anyone wants to post Vader making a pun in the clone wars cartoon would love to see it. Nah, its time for you to do the work for a change. Except it won't be work, because TCW is great and, unlike the movies, provides reasons to root for the prequel cast.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:16
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No. No more people making claims and not backing them up. Rogue One had a terrible Vader joke. It's bad. Get over it.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:19
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I like to imagine Vader had a huge grin on his nasty rear end face as he gave the line, whereas he was just unhappy and grimly going about his business when slaughtering all the hat dudes.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:46
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I did not like Vader joke. Darths do not mug.
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Dec 22, 2016 18:53
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I liked it because it was campy like Star Wars is as points.
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Dec 22, 2016 20:36
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Democratic Pirate posted:I like to imagine Vader had a huge grin on his nasty rear end face as he gave the line, whereas he was just unhappy and grimly going about his business when slaughtering all the hat dudes. Yeah seriously I pictured Vader having a dry cracked burnt bemused smile the entire time he was dealing with Kendall, just thinking geez these guys should just get a room and get it over with already
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rear end Catchcum posted:No. No more people making claims and not backing them up. Rogue One had a terrible Vader joke. It's bad. Get over it. I find your lack of taste disturbing.
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