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If I'm going to make and balance house rules of that scope I might as well make a brand new game (which, in fact, is what I'm doing).
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The Big Bird Daemon has always been a grab bag thematically. He's about planning and scheming and secrecy and building up advantage till the moment is perfect, which is why he has weird illuminati/spy/mystery/mage cults. Get the knowledge, get the power, get the nobles and politicians and officials in your fold. It's all under control. Join us and learn the true path to power. Buuuuut...he's also about none of those cults and organizations knowing about one another, knowing the big picture or working together. Those cults and organizations will meet, and they will clash. So, Big Blue is also about infighting, sedition, blackmail, sabotage, foiled plots and carefully planned operations going off the rails to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Dr. Claw, Skeletor and Cobra Commander could probably take these chumps while fighting with one another. That's an ok concept for a Chaos dude there. P solid, covers a lot of ground, has a strong theme. Despite his vast cunning and knowledge, Flappy McGee's chaotic nature always finds a way to sabotage him. Birds have a long association with knowledge and wisdom in human lore, birds delivered messages over long distances for a very long time, flight represents a power man does not have that he would do anything to attain, etc. As the Keeper of Secrets, the bird thing works. This dude that's about secrecy is also about highly visible mutations (not that the other Chaos chums don't seem to be, but it's apparently his bailiwick) which is self sabotaging, yes, but not really on theme. A third eye, a birthmark that grows to become a Chaos glyph, a sixth finger, and more subtle mutations would be on theme, but wouldn't show up on minis, really. Then uh, flying mushroom flame throwers and day-glo wizards on hover boards and I dunno, maybe some Egyptian Space Marines or something?
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Dec 21, 2016 23:46
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While I'm not a fan of AOS I applaud games workshop for adding some diversity to the sigmarite range.  Stormbringer Warwyches 
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TTerrible posted:While I'm not a fan of AOS I applaud games workshop for adding some diversity to the sigmarite range. That's a weird way to spell Sisters of Battle Seraphim.
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Dec 22, 2016 01:31
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Where did those nine Skaven find three human masks?
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Pvt.Scott posted:That's a weird way to spell Sisters of Battle Seraphim. 
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Hah! I was on my phone so I only saw the picture super tiny. I didn't notice the bolt pistols. I miss my Sisters, of Battle and of Sigmar.
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grassy gnoll posted:Where did those nine Skaven find three human masks? the mk2 skaven suits have boob pate with eye holes so the other two can see. that way nobody argues over who is the head 
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Dec 22, 2016 01:54
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I kinda dig the actual models, even if they're just bare-minimum updated sisters (the sisters as a concept look good, sue me), but gently caress, gaming pieces can't be covered in fiddly, thin, easily breakable crap, especially not when the entire model rests on it!
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The 9 dice rule sounds fluffy and fun and I like that they are supporting each chaos god with a book, cultists, etc. I wonder if there will be a new Lord of Change kit? Having painted 9 of the winged Stormcast, they are very sturdy. Snapping the wings is more of a risk than damaging the oath papers. The papers hold the miniatures up well and bend slightly to resist breaking. Best to paint them as a sub assembly. The real downside of wide-winged models is getting them in base contact with anything else. The "measure from the model" rule favors Prosecutors and measure from base runs into problems when you run them. Their wings cause issues with unit coherence, whereas with measure from model you get a nice spread in their coherence. GreenMarine fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Shitposting aside for a second I think that pool of dice idea is cool and good. Better than just change = random tables and rerolls.
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spectralent posted:I kinda dig the actual models, even if they're just bare-minimum updated sisters (the sisters as a concept look good, sue me), but gently caress, gaming pieces can't be covered in fiddly, thin, easily breakable crap, especially not when the entire model rests on it! Yeah, they're not bad as display pieces, but they're not great as gaming figures. More than the fragility, I'd be concerned with storage. At least when I buy a model with big ol wings or something, I can magnetize them so that storage is easier.
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Yeah, some of my tanks have trouble fitting into a case and they're just boxes.
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Pvt.Scott posted:That's a weird way to spell Sisters of Battle Seraphim. I feel like he's going for an unkind comparison here.
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TTerrible posted:While I'm not a fan of AOS I applaud games workshop for adding some diversity to the sigmarite range. GW are the undisputed kings of 'models what will break in transit' range
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I'm the battle corsets.
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Business Gorillas posted:the mk2 skaven suits have boob pate with eye holes so the other two can see. that way nobody argues over who is the head This post is a delight and a treasure.
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Is it just the tiny pic on my phone or are those two seraphim just a mirror of each other with a weapon swap?
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Not a viking posted:Is it just the tiny pic on my phone or are those two seraphim just a mirror of each other with a weapon swap? They're similar but they're not the exact same model.
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TTerrible posted:While I'm not a fan of AOS I applaud games workshop for adding some diversity to the sigmarite range. Too bad this isn't plastic sisters, and just a character that they removed from the latest codex to add into a campaign book as an excuse to sell more books to people who want to run an army that they have had for a very long time, further fragmenting the game into a piece of poo poo of multiple versions of the same unit depending on what exact combination of books you bother to buy.
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Hahaha, those bodyguards are totally mirror images of each other. The details of each are slightly different, but the poses are basically identical just with their weapon hands switched around. Just look at the angles of their legs and arms.
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You're not wrong.
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To be fair, they are twins in the fluff so 
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SteelMentor posted:To be fair, they are twins in the fluff so lol
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AOS FAQ got updated https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/22/faq-update-for-warhammer-age-of-sigmar/ Notable changes: -Tomb Herald errata means they are longer immune to damage if they are near another Tomb Herald -Ring of Immortality now costs points to set up the model after it dies, making it nearly useless -Clarifications on setting up Sylvaneth Wyldwood -Clarified that "a few moongrot grots have nets" means 3 in 20 -Basic rules for victory don't apply in Pitched Battle (ie. you don't lose the game if you get wiped off the table or deploy everything in reserve) -Zombies can't be merged into groups of 300 any more -Can't use movement phase abilities in other phases even if it says "move as if it was the movement phase" it just means you can make a normal move (ie. move characteristic, run, retreat) Pawl fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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So the dude at my LGS let me know that nobody plays 40k or AOS at sub 1500 points. He also said that 40k is way more competitive, and popular, than AOS but that AOS is more chill/casual. Is this accurate? I like the fantasy theme more than the spaceguns of 40k. I'm brand new to the hobby so the prospect of having to build a 1500 point army before I can play ia kinda a bummer. Was banking on kill team being at least a little popular.
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You could always try one of the skirmish games like Infinity or Deadzone (both are sci-fi though)
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I'm pretty all in on Nurgle.
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I'm all for skirmish; I have no interest in painting 50+ guys for a single army ever again. Luckily, there are a lot of options these days though. I went with Dark Age, which is kinda far-future Mad Max. Frostgrave is skirmish fantasy; it's got some major problems, but its heart is in the right place. There's also Wrath of Kings or Malifaux.Injuryprone posted:I'm pretty all in on Nurgle. Get some Nurgle guys (if you must) and build a Frostgrave warband. Frostgrave encourages you to use whatever models you like.
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Injuryprone posted:So the dude at my LGS let me know that nobody plays 40k or AOS at sub 1500 points. He also said that 40k is way more competitive, and popular, than AOS but that AOS is more chill/casual. Is this accurate? I like the fantasy theme more than the spaceguns of 40k. Generaly you'll find people are willing to cut some stuff from their forces to fit a 1000pt bracket, expecially if they're a chill bunch. If you're going in Nurgle, the Nurgle Daemons SC box should place you at just a few points shy of 1000pts, as will the Slaves to Darkness box.
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Oh wow that's awesome, for some reason I thought that was only 500.
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I think the Nurgle SC box is exactly 500 points if ScrollBuilder is right. AoS seems to be more chill in comparison to 40k, but that's only from seeing games of 40k at the store. It isn't as popular though. I've played under 1500 points, some armies don't scale super well under 1500 is probably why that was mentioned.
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Do Skaven have a full army yet? Does Gamers Workshop have league play again? Just curious
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My mistake, it does amount to 500, but even so it's easy enough to play a decent game at that scale. AoS players on a whole seem like a pretty chill bunch, doubt people would scoff at playing lower-point games with someone just getting into the game.NutritiousSnack posted:Do Skaven have a full army yet? Does Gamers Workshop have league play again? Just curious Skaven have a full army, you can mix and match them Fantasy style or go all in on one of the Clans. Want an all Jezzail/Stormfiend/Warp Lightning Skyre army? Now you can. As for League Play, I'm not sure about store-level Leagues but they are running tournies for AoS and are throwing a lot of support behind AoS events at larger Wargaming tournies. Would be nice to see League Play stuff though.
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Is any Nurgle batallion vastly superior to the others?
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I guess I don't understand the desire to play a bad game at a cost and size you're not interested in just because there are a handful of models you find aesthetically appealing. You can get a handful of those models and do other things with them.
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I'd be bummed as heck if I lived in a town where the only wargaming options at my FLGS were 40K and AOS and nobody was willing to use their GW models in other games to try them, or even got offended at the very idea of it.
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Xarbala posted:I'd be bummed as heck if I lived in a town where the only wargaming options at my FLGS were 40K and AOS and nobody was willing to use their GW models in other games to try them, or even got offended at the very idea of it. Like, I'd understand if the bases mattered like in X wing or infinity, but these are generic fantasy and sci fi minis that are being culled for generic ruleset games.  Someone straight up told me frostgrave was worse than AOS when they're both p much on the same level of "casual appropriateness" wrt their ruleset.
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I would love to see the logic behind saying Frostgrave is worse than AoS.
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