|
loquacius posted:The Ellison tweet that started this conversation was against term limits, hope this helps elison is a very inarticulate tweeter. Sad!
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 20:34 |
|
|
docbeard posted:I had a pretty interesting conversation with my cab driver on the way home from a post-work grocery run last night. Non-white dude with a noticeable accent, but I don't know where he was from (and didn't ask); the only personal information he volunteered was that he's an Orthodox Christian. that's the easy part the hard part is figuring out why a jobs message sometimes falls completely flat, and then determining what does and doesn't go into a good jobs message the thing is, the Dems did talk about jobs. it's just that when Hillary did it no one believed her, and when Obama did it people were outright offended My Imaginary GF posted:the only reason why republicans would ask is to reneg on the deal yeah I'm sure a racially-tinged insult is a real good political move punk rebel ecks posted:The problem is that the people infact don't approve of it, there is a reason why Congress has such as garbage approval rating. It's very difficult - you know what this is pointless forget about it. Congress as a whole has awful approval ratings, but individual senators and reps usually have good approval ratings in the areas they represent. people don't hate their own Congressmen, they hate everyone else's Congressmen
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:45
|
|
|
also federal term limits are specifically dumb because many committees require members of congress to learn a huge amount of specialty information about specific industries. it takes a long time to learn that, so constantly replacing people who have obtained that knowledge with new people basically means that corporations will be writing all the legislation.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:45
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:elison is a very inarticulate tweeter. Sad! It was super jargony yeah
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:47
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:elison is a very inarticulate tweeter. Sad! since rahm closed down all the schools, most chicago children read at the level of migf. it's a crisis.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:48
|
|
|
Main Paineframe posted:yeah I'm sure a racially-tinged insult is a real good political move are you so out of touch that you think racially tinged insults are a bad political move in the loving deep south? no wonder why dems keep losing
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:49
|
|
|
loquacius posted:he did not vote for Trump because if he did his wife would murder him everyone you can say this about actually did vote trump probably
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:49
|
|
|
mrbradlymrmartin posted:https://www.c-span.org/video/?171436-101/expulsion-representative-james-traficant quote:Expulsion of Representative James Traficant The House voted to expel Ohio Representative James Traficant for violation of House ethics rules. Ethics Committee members and others presented their cases prior to the final vote of 420 to 1. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:50
|
|
|
only one member of congress voted to save james traficant. gary condit
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:51
|
|
|
blamegame posted:everyone you can say this about actually did vote trump probably Bill Clinton probably voted Trump yeah
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:52
|
|
|
Concerned Citizen posted:only one member of congress voted to save james traficant. who could vote to impeach Top Gun
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:53
|
|
|
No one with half a brain is going to believe a candidate is serious about jobs when they're on record gleefully saying they are going to put people out of work. It's almost like the message, the messenger and the energy policy all suck.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:54
|
|
|
Proud Christian Mom posted:No one with half a brain is going to believe a candidate is serious about jobs when they're on record gleefully saying they are going to put people out of work. Youre Fired! TM
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:56
|
|
|
punk rebel ecks posted:Could you actually provide an argument? Term limits actively encourage empty suit candidates that are purchased by the highest bidder.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:56
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:are you so out of touch that you think racially tinged insults are a bad political move in the loving deep south? no wonder why dems keep losing tell us more about the benefits of strategic racism
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 16:59
|
|
|
Main Paineframe posted:tell us more about the benefits of strategic racism ask our next president
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:04
|
|
|
Concerned Citizen posted:ask our next president
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:07
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:11
|
|
|
YANNO WHATCHER PROBLEM IS? YA THINK YER TOO GOOD FER A LIL GOOD OL FASHIONED RACE BAITING! THATS TH' CHICAGO WAY
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:12
|
|
|
zegermans posted:Term limits actively encourage empty suit candidates that are purchased by the highest bidder.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:17
|
|
|
paranoid randroid posted:YANNO WHATCHER PROBLEM IS? YA THINK YER TOO GOOD FER A LIL GOOD OL FASHIONED RACE BAITING! THATS TH' CHICAGO WAY who gives a poo poo how ya win, when ya win? sounds like youd rather lose the "right" way than win.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:17
|
|
|
MIGF is here????? Missed you, buddy. Still haven't watched that Constant Gardener movie you recommended.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:18
|
|
|
jBrereton posted:How do they encourage that more than no term limits encourage purchasing a candidate as a long term investment do you have any loving idea how political finance works? its all about relations. relations loving change over time! ya gently caress a lobbyist's wife, they catch ya, initiate divorce proceedings, how the gently caress does it matter how many contributions their industry gave ya when they now on an absolute warpath against ya? like gently caress, so many folk forget that politicians are humans
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:19
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:who gives a poo poo how ya win, when ya win? sounds like youd rather lose the "right" way than win. don't you have a police execution to cover up
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:19
|
|
|
You know, I'll bet we'd win in 2020 if we convinced Donald Trump to run as a Democrat next time. He'd probably do it just for the laugh.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:20
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:who gives a poo poo how ya win, when ya win? sounds like youd rather lose the "right" way than win. yanno what works better than fake race baiting? real race baiting. bring back th' dixiecrats, sez i, and we'll never lose an election again
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:21
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:like gently caress, so many folk forget that politicians are humans 
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:21
|
|
|
docbeard posted:You know, I'll bet we'd win in 2020 if we convinced Donald Trump to run as a Democrat next time. He'd probably do it just for the laugh. Could he run on both tickets, with different VPs? Trump/Gabbard is more palatable than Trump/Pence, is all I'm saying
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:22
|
|
|
he said human not whatever that is
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:24
|
|
|
NumberLast posted:Could he run on both tickets, with different VPs? ...I now very much want to see Donald Trump debate himself.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:24
|
|
|
punk rebel ecks posted:Could you actually provide an argument? Here's a pretty good argument I found: https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/811956024617955328
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:25
|
|
|
Term limits are bad because without them FDR would still be president.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:26
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/811969616863866880
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:27
|
|
|
daily reminder that rahm adopted all of chuy's policies to save his skin cause rahm is a shook rear end motherfucker who the city hates and is bad
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:27
|
|
|
NumberLast posted:Could he run on both tickets, with different VPs? No seriously would this be legal? I need to know for my fanfic
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:27
|
|
|
reid owns
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:28
|
|
|
My Imaginary GF posted:do you have any loving idea how political finance works? its all about relations. relations loving change over time! ya gently caress a lobbyist's wife, they catch ya, initiate divorce proceedings, how the gently caress does it matter how many contributions their industry gave ya when they now on an absolute warpath against ya?
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:28
|
|
|
lmao harry Reid owns when he's not shutting down Yucca Mountain
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:29
|
|
|
Is...Harry Reid, like Obama, bad and cool?
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 20:34 |
|
|
jBrereton posted:How do they encourage that more than no term limits encourage purchasing a candidate as a long term investment It means: You are never "safe" in your seat, at least not for long, based on building up trust. You never have time to acquire independent expertise of your own. Your party needs to constantly provide fresh bodies and I'm not sure if you're aware but they are generally really bad at that.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2016 17:29
|
|