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Tatum Girlparts posted:who was it that beat the poo poo out of Andy Dick after that? I remember it was a guy who's normally a shithead but he had one moment of coolness by loving him up. I wanna say Lovitz but I can't imagine him beating anyone up... On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48]
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Oh Snapple! posted:lovitz sounds right, he definitely beat him up over something yea it feels like that was it because he was the only guy around that time who was enough of a shitbag to make 'but when he heard Andy was being a horrible monster about it he went nuts on him' a stand out story. I really want to watch a Lovitz/Dick fight though.
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Pomp posted:On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48] haha there it is.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I don't know how you'd qualify someone as elite then because it's entirely based around how much access (money) one has to society's upper levels. elite means you are better, more skilled, or at least more respected and refined than other people like elite athletes or elite schools or elite academics i am not sure i consider trump to be better or more skilled or anything than other people he seems the opposite of elite, vulgar do you not think that vulgar fits him a lot better as an adjective than elite?
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GlyphGryph posted:elite means you are better, more skilled, or at least more respected and refined than other people This is a great point, a millionaire who teaches at a community college is going to be seen as much less of an elite than a much less wealthy person who teaches at Harvard or Princeton.
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GlyphGryph posted:elite means you are better, more skilled, or at least more respected and refined than other people this is a really weird, literalist, reframing of how most people use it that has some very unfortunate connotations. Like, does that mean the political elite are inherently better than you and me? I think you're making a mistake creating an elite/vulgar duality. I'd call it more an elite/common/vulgar thing where you can be more than one in different ways. I think Trump is very vulgar man ethically, but absolutely he's elite socially. He's both a vulgar, sad, little man who grabs pussy and yells about minorities and an elite in our culture because he has the means and money to use his golden tower life to bully people who dare speak out against him, and rally his fans and supporters to intimidate, say, a rando lady who calls his lovely steakhouse gross.
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GlyphGryph posted:elite means you are better, more skilled, or at least more respected and refined than other people elites are the teachers that tell you to quiet down, the manager you have to answer to, the professor who tells you that your ideas are baseless billionaires (without add't context) arent perceived as elites, theyre just folks who made it big, just like you will, eventually!
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vulgar literally means low class and society as a whole constantly sends the message that elites are intrinsically better than us yes like you can say that there are disturbing implications but thats society for you
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Dec 23, 2016 23:41
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Tatum Girlparts posted:this is a really weird, literalist, reframing of how most people use it that has some very unfortunate connotations. Like, does that mean the political elite are inherently better than you and me? The political elite absolutely do think this, yes.
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Dec 23, 2016 23:43
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GlyphGryph posted:vulgar literally means low class that's a pretty lazy excuse honestly. I'm talking about beliefs and you're just kinda going 'eh, society' as if we're all part of a hivemind that's already decided
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A lot of it is cultural too, I guarentee people (or at least Trump voters) don't see someone like Toby Keith as an elite, despite making $50 million a year (more than twice Bill Mahers net worth)
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Trump has been a well known persona since the 80's. He hasn't been "hated" by the elites since he ran for president under the GOP.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Trump has been a well known persona since the 80's. He hasn't been "hated" by the elites since he ran for president under the GOP. his entire thing since the 80's has been trying to impress the 'bigger elite' that absolutely do hate him because he's like the literal root of the stereotype of new money trash.
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Honestly if anything this election is a testament to how skilled Kelly Anne Conway is, I wonder if she thinks about how she's going to go down as Trumps Rove/Goebbels.
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if you want a test to see if someone is part of the elite see if you could imagine them complaining the common people as a class i could see hillary doing that i could see trump complaining about specific people but not the whole class even if he does its an image thing GlyphGryph has issued a correction as of 00:02 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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GlyphGryph posted:if you want a test to see if someone is part of the elite see if you could imagine them complaining the common people as a class I think this is less a trump thing and more a hillary thing with you, like a lot of things with you turn out to be
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think this is less a trump thing and more a hillary thing with you, like a lot of things with you turn out to be fine then use romney as a comparison
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except with romney we dont even have to imagine
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zen death robot posted:I'm trying to figure out how an election where a billionaire who's basically signing up a shitload of other billionaires to be his cabinet was a repudiation of elitists in government in any way that makes any loving sense at all he didn't talk like an elite. you Could Have A Beer With Him. he might be a billionaire but he's not one of those shifty political billionaires, he's a hard-working businessman trying to Make America Great Again, not like those thieving lawyers and community organizers trying to destroy the businesses that represent American ingenuity and productivity in order to grow the parasitic government. etc, etc zen death robot posted:Normally that poo poo is suicide but he got away with it because he was seen through the reality TV lens. At least that's my feelings on it. At some point the election became a reality TV show where the normal rules of real reality no longer applied. Sometime in late 2015ish and it just picked up steam from there. i think what people have accepted as the general rules of politics for a long while (like "sex scandals are bad", "being on good terms with the press is critical", and "publicly disrespecting a veteran is haraam") haven't actually been true for quite a few years - probably at least a decade, if not more. politicians still mostly follow those rules anyway, and enforce them against each other, but even before Trump there were some signs that voters actually care a lot less about those things than the political establishment tends to assume. by traditional political standards, he earns the "worst candidate ever" label many have placed on him - but he won by making GBS threads all over traditional political standards, throwing them at his opponents, and then demanding they apologize for daring to be hit by them. meanwhile Hillary based her operation on the most modern understanding of political standards and metrics of all time, feeding all sorts of polls and focus groups into a highly automated data-driven political machine. so it's probably time to step back and explore how many of those traditional political standards and metrics declared by the political establishment are obsolete, no longer relevant, or were complete bullshit from the very beginning
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Trump appears to be a winner so he's a winner to the same people that think they are successful and definitely not poor despite being one missed paycheck away from defaulting on everything they (don't) own
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Main Paineframe posted:he didn't talk like an elite. you Could Have A Beer With Him. he might be a billionaire but he's not one of those shifty political billionaires, he's a hard-working businessman trying to Make America Great Again, not like those thieving lawyers and community organizers trying to destroy the businesses that represent American ingenuity and productivity in order to grow the parasitic government. etc, etc trump won because he made (hollow) economic promises and hillary promised not trump, and did victory lap bullshit while people on the ground where telling her they need help. Trump won with a lower turnout than the last three losers had. Talk of the rules not existing kind of ignores that trump only survived the general because the hillary campaign was stupider than him.
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The KI1600 made a good point about being comfortable in your own skin, a characteristic Bernie and Trump def. had but Clinton did not, same with Bush and Gore.
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i should add that i am just answering the questions people asked. i personally think trump is an elite but i also have no problem figuring out how people could see it otherwise
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Donald Trump, Elite Beat Agent.
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I think no matter what trump is he is also a douchebag
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UHD posted:I think That's very brave of you.
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UHD posted:I think He's a good man, and a family man. He doesn't even drink
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UHD posted:I think now hold on there he isn't even president yet just give him a chaaaaance~ 
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Lastgirl posted:now hold on there He's just waiting for after his inauguration to pivot, so the establishment can't sabatage him.* * A real view Trump supporters are putting forth to justify things he's done since the election.
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Ace of Baes posted:He's just waiting for after his inauguration to pivot, so the establishment can't sabatage him.* Wouldn't be surprised if he's actually kind of right. Not that Trump will drop the act and do the right thing, but that he'll drop the act and just treat the position like it's just a more glorified version of the Apprentice.
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steinrokkan posted:He's a good man, and a family man. And some of him, I assume, is a good person. not really
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steinrokkan posted:He's a good man, and a family man. You can tell, since he's got like 3 families.
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this poo poo is like gormles s dot com dot co dot uk dot ukip
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Hey can someone post horseshoe theory: C-Spam addition again? I need it elsewhere but it turns out I didn't save it like I thought I did.
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reignonyourparade posted:Hey can someone post horseshoe theory: C-Spam addition again? I need it elsewhere but it turns out I didn't save it like I thought I did. check the pic thread 
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Pomp posted:On July 10, 2007, Dick and former Newsradio costar Jon Lovitz got into a physical confrontation at The Laugh Factory in Los Angeles. The two had several previous disagreements concerning the death of their mutual friend Phil Hartman. According to Lovitz, Dick had given Hartman's wife Brynn cocaine at a Christmas party at Hartman's house in 1997; Brynn, a recovering addict, fell back into drug use, culminating in her killing Hartman and herself on May 28, 1998. When Lovitz joined the cast of Newsradio as Hartman's replacement, he and Dick got into an argument in which Lovitz said, "I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place." Lovitz eventually apologized to Dick for the remark.[47] In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die."[48] At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.[48] andy dick is a terrible person
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reignonyourparade posted:Hey can someone post horseshoe theory: C-Spam addition again? I need it elsewhere but it turns out I didn't save it like I thought I did. Don't think I've seen a horseshoe pic with "intoxicated detatchment" at the top.
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Rangpur posted:C-Spam Democrats: "We will return the Democratic Party to its progressive roots by ignoring our primary voters and selecting the candidate in a closed door meeting of the most distinguished woke leftists on twitter." NPR interviewed some DNC person during the primaries that unironically thought that choosing the candidate in smoke-filled rooms was the better way because it meant that whoever came out in the end was someone who "could work with the party" and they should go back to doing things that way. Of course that all assumes that the party is worth working with and not a complete train wreck that would allow a mentally ill oompa loompa to slide into office vs  The Most Qualified Candidate Ever
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MizPiz posted:Don't think I've seen a horseshoe pic with "intoxicated detatchment" at the top.  nailed it 
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