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BENGHAZI 2 posted:the point is that they don't have a straight up "you are never getting out" sentence The point is that it actually doesn't matter what they straight up say in Brevik's case.
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DeusExMachinima posted:The point is that it actually doesn't matter what they straight up say in Brevik's case. Only if you're the kind of moron who posts a thread about gun control so he can respond to every argument with NOPE CANT DO THAT because actual deabte is harder than writing polemics
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DeusExMachinima posted:The point is that it actually doesn't matter what they straight up say in Brevik's case. And the point is he's the extreme case and he still isn't guaranteed a life sentence. He's in until he shows rehabilitation. Funnily enough other mass murderers and child rapists who have done horrifically heinous poo poo have had life sentences and been released after 15 years of rehabilitation (or less!) from which we've yet to see recidivism. By all means stroke your dick about the thought of gunning down convicts but the system in Scandinavia works and has executed infinitely less innocent victims than the American system. For one thing the death penalty is banned across European Union members.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Only if you're the kind of moron who posts a thread about gun control so he can respond to every argument with NOPE CANT DO THAT because actual deabte is harder than writing polemics didn't tell me to kill myself 2/10 Tesseraction posted:And the point is he's the extreme case and he still isn't guaranteed a life sentence. He's in until he shows rehabilitation. I'll be sure to think twice before I post half-serious questions about Europe bringing back executions after 10010 million years of ageless Breviks have covered the continent in prison complexes.
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DeusExMachinima posted:didn't tell me to kill myself 2/10 Ladies and gentlemen DXM at his finest
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DeusExMachinima posted:I'll be sure to think twice before I post half-serious questions about Europe bringing back executions after 10010 million years of ageless Breviks have covered the continent in prison complexes. My point, Captain Handgun, is that we already have a system that works without taking into account immortality. You can argue that there will always be someone who never ever rehabilitates, but then I'd point out that in this thread that person is you.
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Dec 23, 2016 02:33
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Tesseraction posted:but the system in Scandinavia works and has executed infinitely less innocent victims than the American system. Rare to see "infinitely less" as a kind of euphemism for "finitely fewer."
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Come on, if this thread has a recidivist, it's Cingulate. 
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neongrey posted:Come on, if this thread has a recidivist, it's Cingulate. On the one hand I want to agree with you in order to defend my SA honor. But on the other I still have literally no idea what that guy was saying.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Rare to see "infinitely less" as a kind of euphemism for "finitely fewer." You've found division by zero produces a finite number? Holy poo poo you've got the most revolutionary mathematical proof in the known universe! Dude you need to submit this poo poo to academia ASAP loving hell
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neongrey posted:Come on, if this thread has a recidivist, it's Cingulate. He's German, he's tried under the Christian Democrat model of forgiveness-if-white. DeusExMachinima posted:On the one hand I want to agree with you in order to defend my SA honor. But on the other I still have literally no idea what that guy was saying. It's a joke about you lacking the ability to self-reflect. You not understanding it is an added bonus.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Ladies and gentlemen DXM at his finest For a minute I thought you were talking about the drug in cough syrup that teens get high on and I got real confused. Tesseraction posted:You've found division by zero produces a finite number? Holy poo poo you've got the most revolutionary mathematical proof in the known universe! I don't really agree with DeusExMachina but quote:By all means stroke your dick about the thought of gunning down convicts but the system in Scandinavia works and has executed infinitely less innocent victims than the American system. is clearly subtraction, not division.
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DXM gon' give it to ya. Before we slapfight this thread into oblivion (like mods exist in PYF amirite), let's see how Roosh V has been doing this year. http://www.returnofkings.com/79234/the-alt-right-is-worse-than-feminism-in-attempting-to-control-male-sexual-behavior quote:I’ve gotten messages from hundreds of self-proclaimed members of the alt right who say I can’t be “in” their movement, even though I have never contributed for an alt right site or spoken at one of their functions. One man said I can only be a member if I don’t sleep with white women, and I’ve seen the mob attack other men who have non-white girlfriends. The alt right has gone from a possible political alternative to a frustrated mob that wants to control the sexual choices of all men. With whom have we encountered that before? Somebody tell this guy to read Frankenstein. Might give him a heads up for how helping to create a monster ends.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:the point is that they don't have a straight up "you are never getting out" sentence there's always a chance he might reform himself. A slim chance, but like you said, there's always a chance. They imprison people to protect society, which includes the prisoners themselves. That's several levels above anything I'm used to, which is more "hammer of justice shall punish the wicked", they still call it "corrections system" as a cargo cult way if thinking they're people better. Their convicted criminals living better than our poor and innocent doesn't suggest that their system is flawed, it suggests that ours is.
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TomViolence posted:Then again these are the same sort of people who think we're going to go to space so maybe they don't see choking half the world with smog and drowning its remaining populace with melted ice cap runoff as being major long term problems. I bet you thought you were exaggerating with that last. From LessWrong: quote:Eg., a year or so ago, a friend of mine in the Thiel-sphere proposed starting a new country by hauling nuclear power plants to Antarctica, and then just putting heaters on the ground to melt all the ice. As it happens, I think this is a stupid idea (hot air rises, so the newly heated air would just blow away, pulling in more cold air from the surroundings). Yep, that's definitely the one aspect of this idea that's stupid. This was in the thread about CFAR pivoting to AI risk. Upvoted to +25.
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ate all the Oreos posted:I don't really agree with DeusExMachina but Depends how you interpret - I was suggesting a ratio of 0 innocent victims of the Scandinavian system to <x> of the American system. The absolute value is undoubtedly a finite number but my point was that the Scandinavian system will produce 0 in perpetuity, thus causing an endlessly changing ratio (assuming neither system changes). Hence my X system v Y system being 'less' (implying ratio) instead of 'fewer' (implying numerical comparison).
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Tesseraction posted:Depends how you interpret - I was suggesting a ratio of 0 innocent victims of the Scandinavian system to <x> of the American system. The absolute value is undoubtedly a finite number but my point was that the Scandinavian system will produce 0 in perpetuity, thus causing an endlessly changing ratio (assuming neither system changes). Hence my X system v Y system being 'less' (implying ratio) instead of 'fewer' (implying numerical comparison). You would still just say "100% less" then. I can see an argument for stating that the US executes infinitely more people, although that'd still be pretty dumb.
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Syd Midnight posted:there's always a chance he might reform himself. A slim chance, but like you said, there's always a chance. Syd Midnight posted:there's always a chance he might reform himself. A slim chance, but like you said, there's always a chance. yeah absolutely, thats what im saying. the whole "well technically it's a life sentence" thing is missing the whole point of their system, which is rehabilitation not retribution
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Tesseraction posted:Depends how you interpret - I was suggesting a ratio of 0 innocent victims of the Scandinavian system to <x> of the American system. The absolute value is undoubtedly a finite number but my point was that the Scandinavian system will produce 0 in perpetuity, thus causing an endlessly changing ratio (assuming neither system changes). Hence my X system v Y system being 'less' (implying ratio) instead of 'fewer' (implying numerical comparison). Why is this conversation even happening.
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Let's point and laugh at this instead: http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/154827572901/you-wake-up-on-the-morning-on-the-20th-of-january
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eschaton posted:Remember that Eli's brother was murdered; there's a substantial underlying reason for his extreme attitude towards death. Most people just go to a therapist instead of writing billion page Harry Potter fanfics and becoming obsessed with AI.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Most people just go to a therapist instead of writing billion page Harry Potter fanfics and becoming obsessed with AI. He was into AI long before it happened. I don't want to make fun of him for having a horrific tragedy happen to him and neither should anyone, really
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ate all the Oreos posted:For a minute I thought you were talking about the drug in cough syrup that teens get high on and I got real confused. To be fair at the height of my DXM habit I didn't really make much sense on the internet either
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DeusExMachinima posted:DXM gon' give it to ya. Sometimes, ya ain't half bad.
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Fututor Magnus posted:Let's point and laugh at this instead: my god
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I was about to ask if there are still rationalists defending Peter Thiel but then there he is as S. Alexander's commerce secretary. The existential risk crew at least are leery of a dude enabling a president who's cavalier about climate change and nuclear war, right? Right? I know Yud at least is petrified of Trump's not being able to play the 'national security decision-making game' with minimal competence.
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Peel posted:I was about to ask if there are still rationalists defending Peter Thiel but then there he is as S. Alexander's commerce secretary. He's a literal fascist vampire, but he's also part of the grey tribe
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chitoryu12 posted:Why is this conversation even happening. Because I need to justify the pile of student loan debt I got from studying math by arguing about subtraction on the internet, duh.
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Fututor Magnus posted:Let's point and laugh at this instead: I think the "tee hee hee random black women tee hee hee" part is my favorite.
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Sax Solo posted:I think the "tee hee hee random black women tee hee hee" part is my favorite. I wonder if Scott realizes he's picked up the same lovely racist sense of humour that alt-right types - far-right shits have always had on the internet.
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Sax Solo posted:I think the "tee hee hee random black women tee hee hee" part is my favorite. My favourite is 'solve everything about urban housing'
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Fututor Magnus posted:I wonder if Scott realizes he's picked up the same lovely racist sense of humour that alt-right types - far-right shits have always had on the internet. I mean aside from the fact that he'd appoint a loving HBD hereditist eugenicist blogger in charge of the NIH, among other things.
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OfficialGBSCaliph posted:My favourite is 'solve everything about urban housing' By appointing Matt Yglasias, a man who knows about as much about housing as Grover.
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Pope Guilty posted:His "welfare czar" is the author of The Bell Curve, because Scott's a loving Nazi. It's a post-Trump election world, there's no need to hide it anymore.
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:By appointing Matt Yglasias, a man who knows about as much about housing as Grover. Just wait til my goon version of this post, featuring Caro as Secretary of Defense, Aatrek as Secretary of Education, and Landerig as Secretary of Chaotic Neutrality
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Fututor Magnus posted:I wonder if Scott realizes he's picked up the same lovely racist sense of humour that alt-right types - far-right shits have always had on the internet. What do you mean? That's totally normal humor that all thoughtful and witty people use, like me and all my friends. I know we're not racist, so you're clearly a mind-killed SJW trying to distract us with fnords. (IE no, because he likes those people and thinks they're unfairly persecuted in our witch-hunt-happy society.) Doc Hawkins has a new favorite as of 07:47 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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"I'm a huge white nationalist...on paper" I'd the gift that keeps on giving
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