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UmOk posted:Hope it doesn't mess up Leia being the leader of the Resistance and the First Order. According to the early rumors it might not change very much...
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Barudak posted:According to the early rumors it might not change very much... I heard someone say once (was it RLM?) that Carrie Fisher must be a great actress because she can seem normal in TFA. Are you saying they didn't give her much screen time in TFA2, and if so was that because of problems? So close to the Holidays, her poor family. And she's not even that old! (I'm old and I refuse to check her age, I'm sure it's much higher than I think).
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Dec 24, 2016 06:44
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Principal photography was finished months ago and Carrie wasn't there for the whole shoot anyway. I hope she gets better, but that's probably impossible at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if there's severe brain damage or brain death given how long she was unresponsive. My grandfather had the same thing happen earlier this year; heart attack -> 10-15 minutes unresponsive -> resuscitated with CPR, but brain death had already occurred and he was taken off the ventilator the next day. Don't be surprised if the same happens with Carrie tomorrow.
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Dec 24, 2016 06:47
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Jack B Nimble posted:So close to the Holidays, her poor family. And she's not even that old! (I'm old and I refuse to check her age, I'm sure it's much higher than I think). 
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Dec 24, 2016 06:50
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Fuckin' Mandela Effect how did I wind up on this lovely rear end timeline.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I heard someone say once (was it RLM?) that Carrie Fisher must be a great actress because she can seem normal in TFA. Are you saying they didn't give her much screen time in TFA2, and if so was that because of problems? Early leaks on how the story was going Is that Leia gets knocked unconscious in an attack on a republic ship and theres some sort of coup situation going on and Poe gotta go gently caress poo poo up and rescue coma-leia. Might be Leia never wakes up now
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Dec 24, 2016 07:08
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A Major Fucker posted:good thing they've got that cgi carrie fisher from rogue one lol they should've just used current carrie fisher in rogue one that would've been much better
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Dec 24, 2016 07:12
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I hope Carrie Fisher doesn't die or become severely incapacitated. She seems like a nice lady and she was in a few movies I enjoyed.
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Dec 24, 2016 07:16
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The prequels did this to Carrie.
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Dec 24, 2016 07:26
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gfarrell80 posted:But A New Hope has a pro-humanity, anti-technology/computer message that I think is just as relevant today, and will continue so long as we have a technological society. A New Hope isn't anti-technology. It's just against humans completely relying on technology. A seemingly small but very important distinction. Luke has to make the shot at the end without R2-D2's help in order to complete his passage into manhood, but that doesn't mean R2-D2 is bad. R2-D2 is a hero without whom the heroes would have died many times over. And the prequels will continue to remain just as relevant as the originals given their universal themes relating to societal corruption and the dangers of emotional attachment and fear of loss. Stickarts posted:The prequels did this to Carrie. Maybe if George had let her wear underwear in space she wouldn't have had so many health problems over the years.
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Dec 24, 2016 07:27
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Cnut the Great posted:I hope Carrie Fisher doesn't die or become severely incapacitated. She seems like a nice lady and she was in a few movies I enjoyed. *schwarzenegger voice* she's dead you idiaht
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harrison ford always wanted to die in the movies and carrie fisher always wanted to die irl
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Rogue One: Everyone started dying the minute I thought they would all make it. K-2SO was amazing but the funniest line was "Are you kidding me?! I'm blind!!" Chirrutt appears to be more powerful the any OT Jedi. Was Jyn's assumed name Liarra Halleck partially a Dune reference? Interesting that there was "Long ago" screen but no crawl. I guess you could say this represents the ANH crawl. CGI Tarvin very obvious. Maybe if it was darker it would work. Could see why they needed him though. They seemed to make a point of showing new stuff, Vader in bacta and his castle for example, and the conjoined asteroid base. Plus Vader living up to the myth. Just marching forward, as everyone in front of him dies. More jumping in and out of hyperspace within an atmosphere. Could have done without Artoo and Threepio, because how were they supposed to get on board the blockade runner? I may catch it again, loved it.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Rogue One: I guess they didn't want to break the streak of them being in every film, but I agree with you. Was a bit pointless.
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Roblo posted:They were already on board it, at the base on Yavin IV you can hear them calling Captain Antilles over the intercom, so I presume the Tantive IV was there with them. C3PO's appearance in the film is to serve as a direct contrast to K2. ("It's the mighty robots from Battlestar Galactica versus the GAY robots from Star Wars!") The one line of dialogue was carefully chosen to emphasize 3PO's cluelessness. Even if you haven't seen the other films, you still have this very clear image of the revolutionary heroes and their cargo truck leaving the gold-plated alliance robot in the dust. That is, again, the film making extremely good use of the Lucas films' costume designs (and Lucas-inspired costume designs) as language. As a contrast, note how C3PO shows up in TFA and uses expository dialogue to directly explain that his arm is red, that R2 is sleeping, etc. Rogue One makes a similar point of how Mothra and Krennic both wear white capes. And then the final shot is of Leia in a pure white outfit saying "hope". The film has generated an ambiguity there, that does not stem (solely) from the shocking/confrontational CGI. The film has already clearly outlined its thesis that both the Rebellion and the Empire are enemies of the working class. Whose hope are we talking about? The whole point of showing this Vader massacre is to pay respect to those blue-shirted guys with the helmets, since New Hope had presented them as disposable. And it's also complicated by foreknowledge that Vader will eventually reveal himself to be a good guy in Empire.
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Has anyone gone through the Star Wars movies and put fake (presumably humorous) sub over all the alien/droid dialogue?
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If you haven't watched the auralnauts star wars series starting with jedi party, you should fix that.
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If all of these offshoot Star Wars movies can hit Rogue One level quality the franchise will be in a solid yet unremarkable place moving forward while doing ludicrous numbers, which is, I suspect, the preferred Disney outcome in all regards. As far as the interplay between Rogue One and A New Hope, the most amusing/interesting bit to me is that the message of Red Leader's brusque, somewhat annoyed admonishment for Wedge to cut the chatter after "Look at the size of that thing" has been recontextualized somewhat from "the Rebels have some old guard military officers but also a lot of really green recruits" to "no poo poo buddy, those of us who have been here for more than five minutes remember it from last week, at the battle that killed most of our friends"
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Dec 24, 2016 15:53
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trash person posted:Has anyone gone through the Star Wars movies and put fake (presumably humorous) sub over all the alien/droid dialogue? I always imagine R2 sounding like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.
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Dec 24, 2016 16:12
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Carrie Fisher is dead. Dead tired of speculation about her status!
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I look up into the night sky CGI Peter Cushing and CGI Carrie Fisher look down back at me, smiling I embrace oblivion
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Baron Porkface posted:What was the point of either Dooku fight? Maul = vaders hate, Grevious = vaders machination, Dooku = vaders aristocracy, they all have to get chumped because they aren't him. Dooku comes closest to victory because status is the most powerful force in the failed state of the republic.
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Dec 24, 2016 17:15
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Maul and Dooku needed to be one character.
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For the Return of the Jedi 4K blu-ray remaster, LucasFilms should put ghost Carrie Fisher in at the end of the film.
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Deakul posted:Carrie Fisher is dead.
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I said come in! posted:For the Return of the Jedi 4K blu-ray remaster, LucasFilms should put ghost Carrie Fisher in at the end of the film. Yes but drunk, cursing, red carpet Carrie Fisher.  I WAS A PILOTe: also George Lucas talking about poetry
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Dec 24, 2016 17:55
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George Lucas talking about red tails
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Vitamin P posted:Maul = vaders hate, Grevious = vaders machination, Dooku = vaders aristocracy, they all have to get chumped because they aren't him. Did Grevious and Anakin have any contact in the movies? It was Obi Wan who took him down.
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Dec 24, 2016 18:28
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Bip Roberts posted:Did Grevious and Anakin have any contact in the movies? It was Obi Wan who took him down. At the beginning of ROTS when Anakin and Obi-Wan are captured, they talk to Grievous before getting into a fight with him in the command center of the Invisible Hand.
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Serf posted:At the beginning of ROTS when Anakin and Obi-Wan are captured, they talk to Grievous before getting into a fight with him in the command center of the Invisible Hand. It's implied pretty heavily it seemed to me that before Revenge of the Sith that they had a lot of run in's.
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I said come in! posted:It's implied pretty heavily it seemed to me that before Revenge of the Sith that they had a lot of run in's. Yeah, and Clone Wars confirms this.
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I said come in! posted:It's implied pretty heavily it seemed to me that before Revenge of the Sith that they had a lot of run in's. huh? Grievous straight up says that he expected Anakin to look older and Anakin tells Grievous that he's shorter than he expected. Kinda weird for people that have run into each other before.
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HannibalBarca posted:huh? Grievous straight up says that he expected Anakin to look older and Anakin tells Grievous that he's shorter than he expected. Kinda weird for people that have run into each other before. Yeah, Star Wars continuity is a clusterfuck, don't even bother trying to figure it out.
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Reminder that the old Clone Wars cartoon is no longer canon (that loving cough). I always read that scene as heavily implying that both Grievous and Anakin were famous and so they had heard of one another but never met. e: Just to be clear I've never watched the show. All I know about it is Coughgate. disjoe fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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Grievous and Anakin never do encounter each other in the Clone Wars show.
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Cnut the Great posted:A New Hope isn't anti-technology. It's just against humans completely relying on technology. A seemingly small but very important distinction. Luke has to make the shot at the end without R2-D2's help in order to complete his passage into manhood, but that doesn't mean R2-D2 is bad. R2-D2 is a hero without whom the heroes would have died many times over. You're right in that technology is represented as a tool that can be used by both good guys and bad guys for purposes that can be useful and good or bad, but overall I think the message in ANH is that the intoxicating power of technology can corrupt and lead to horrible destruction by an ordinary bureaucracy. It is not a question of whether R2-D2 is bad, or the blasters they use, or the ships the rebels use are bad. It is about the massive application of military technology. Planets being destroyed and such. Torture (interrogation probe droid). Implied subjugation of peoples through fear (systems will fall in line through fear of the battle station!). The Death Star has some connection to nuclear weapons; it is the threat of compliance or utter destruction via a technological lever. It's nice because the Imperials aren't clearly shown as techno-worshippers, even some of them in the Death Star boardroom scene are skeptical of the Death Star. They're just ordinary guys taking part in a technological military/bureaucratic machine, much like many of the nazis or people involved in our own military industrial complex, especially the pro-nuclear weapons usage folks during the height of the Cold War. But I could argue it is equally applicable to us today. So just need to dial it back a bit and make sure we're in touch with the ol' human feelings, which are clearly illustrated to be the more powerful compass. So I stand by it being pretty solidly anti-technology hippy stuff. Not full on Luddite, but definitely encouraging an assessment of how our society uses technology, and presenting human feeling as the best path to take. Large military power is definitely corrupting and leads to grossly inhumane acts.
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Phi230 posted:George Lucas talking about red tails I liked Red Tails. It was a perfectly average movie that had a little charm of it's own. Not a classic by any means, but alright.
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and it was the first all black leading cast
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Serf posted:Yeah, and Clone Wars confirms this. I don't remember them meeting in the tartakovsky show, and they definitely never meet face to face in the CG cartoon. (They keep missing each other by seconds) ShineDog fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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Do Star Wars fans even pay attention to Star Wars or do they just make poo poo up now? Cus Grievance and Spanakopita Skywalker never meet until the beginning of RotS. They even make sure they don't meet in Clone Wars to specifically maintain continuity with Sith.
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