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BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

"i don't understand how could class-exclusionary idpol not work? racsexism!! :byodood:"

also

this type of head-in-the-sand bullshit is why the negrotown thread exists

"nope nope nope there wasn't even a mild element of racism to trumps campaign"

"but David bannon literally endorsed the alt--"

"no SHUT UP no war but class war! alt-right is a new term (that was coined as early as 2014) that could mean anything!"

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
lmao

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Race Realists posted:

this type of head-in-the-sand bullshit is why the negrotown thread exists

"nope nope nope there wasn't even a mild element of racism to trumps campaign"

"but David bannon literally endorsed the alt--"

"no SHUT UP no war but class war! alt-right is a new term (that was coined as early as 2014) that could mean anything!"

Thanks for the insight, Race Realists.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Race Realists posted:

this type of head-in-the-sand bullshit is why the negrotown thread exists

"nope nope nope there wasn't even a mild element of racism to trumps campaign"

"but David bannon literally endorsed the alt--"

"no SHUT UP no war but class war! alt-right is a new term (that was coined as early as 2014) that could mean anything!"

One of the reasons the racism (and there was plenty of it) in Trump's campaign was easier to dismiss was the last 5 or so years of every goddamn thing under the sun being decried as racist. Yes, a wolf is eating you now. Too bad you've cried wolf a zillion times in the last five years.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Race Realists posted:

this type of head-in-the-sand bullshit is why the negrotown thread exists

"nope nope nope there wasn't even a mild element of racism to trumps campaign"

"but David bannon literally endorsed the alt--"

"no SHUT UP no war but class war! alt-right is a new term (that was coined as early as 2014) that could mean anything!"
i see, only when more black ceos come into existence will racism be truly over.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

i see, only when more black ceos come into existence will racism be truly over.

But will it end racism?

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

new phone who dis posted:

One of the reasons the racism (and there was plenty of it) in Trump's campaign was easier to dismiss was the last 5 or so years of every goddamn thing under the sun being decried as racist. Yes, a wolf is eating you now. Too bad you've cried wolf a zillion times in the last five years.

You are gonna die slow and painful death of being impaled on a Trumpdildo

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Why would black people care about the economy? It's not like the median household income for black families is half of that of white families, it's only 57% of that of white families!

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


new phone who dis posted:

One of the reasons the racism (and there was plenty of it) in Trump's campaign was easier to dismiss was the last 5 or so years of every goddamn thing under the sun being decried as racist. Yes, a wolf is eating you now. Too bad you've cried wolf a zillion times in the last five years.

the thing that makes this argument bad is that most of the poo poo that was "decried as racist" really was racist, just not on the same scale

so it's more like there was a wolf every time the boy said there was but now everyone's bored of wolves so when the t-rex sized dire wolf pack rolls into town they don't give a poo poo

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Why dont blck ppl just go about in whiteface like White Chicks to end racism

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Jazerus posted:

the thing that makes this argument bad is that most of the poo poo that was "decried as racist" really was racist, just not on the same scale

so it's more like there was a wolf every time the boy said there was but now everyone's bored of wolves so when the t-rex sized dire wolf pack rolls into town they don't give a poo poo

yea I'd love to hear what fake examples of bigotry that darn liberals came up with

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Tatum Girlparts posted:

yea I'd love to hear what fake examples of bigotry that darn liberals came up with

Black pres super racist man

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
What if we stopped trying to convince white people to not be racist, and focused on making the lives of marginalized impoverished minorities better through economic and infrastructure reforms that gave them access to healthcare, quality education, and well paying jobs that benefit everyone, instead.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Ace of Baes posted:

What if we stopped trying to convince white people to not be racist, and focused on making the lives of marginalized impoverished minorities better through economic and infrastructure reforms that gave them access to healthcare, quality education, and well paying jobs that benefit everyone, instead.
excuse me, did you just say "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"?
:goonsay:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Ace of Baes posted:

What if we stopped trying to convince white people to not be racist, and focused on making the lives of marginalized impoverished minorities better through economic and infrastructure reforms that gave them access to healthcare, quality education, and well paying jobs that benefit everyone, instead.

literally who is talking about fixing brokebrain racists? Saying 'racism is a problem and was a large part of this campaign that had the KKK throw a loving victory parade for' doesn't mean 'we need to fix racists' it means 'we need to keep protecting minority rights and we should probably acknowledge that the now 100% dominant political party got that way on a multi-election long wave of white nationalism because that poo poo is actively making people unsafe'.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Sometimes I question multi-national megaconglomerates and investment banks commitment to ending poverty and ensuring economic mobility for the disenfranchised. But then I watch some gifs of C grade television actors rolling their eyes attached to tweets calling the Republicans racist and realize it'll all work out in the end.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
the fact that this constantly jumps from 'racism is real and probably an issue related to but not inherently bound to class issues' to 'so you're saying do nothing economical until we literally fix every racist???? Wow...wow....' is probably one of the worst parts of this thread, and the fact that it's really only done by a couple of posters who seem very eager to bitch about ~idpol~ at any chance doesn't make that better

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Tatum Girlparts posted:

literally who is talking about fixing brokebrain racists? Saying 'racism is a problem and was a large part of this campaign that had the KKK throw a loving victory parade for' doesn't mean 'we need to fix racists' it means 'we need to keep protecting minority rights and we should probably acknowledge that the now 100% dominant political party got that way on a multi-election long wave of white nationalism because that poo poo is actively making people unsafe'.

no SHUT THE gently caress UP Racism Is Over!

no war but class war!

Seriously, what the gently caress is wrong with you people?

It's staring you right in the loving face

https://www.google.com/amp/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/508379/?client=ms-android-metropcs-us

if you legitimately think pointing this out means that that was the only element in this campaign, then you are a loving moron, full stop.

BornAPoorBlkChild has issued a correction as of 00:51 on Dec 25, 2016

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
if racism's so bad then why's trump president

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


the conditions of oppression, even racialized oppression, are material (housing/food insecurity, unemployment, etc) and therefore the solution required is material. this is derided as econpol but the telos of any idpol is a material outcome

all idpol is eventually econpol

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Jazerus posted:

the thing that makes this argument bad is that most of the poo poo that was "decried as racist" really was racist, just not on the same scale

so it's more like there was a wolf every time the boy said there was but now everyone's bored of wolves so when the t-rex sized dire wolf pack rolls into town they don't give a poo poo

This is some real good revisionist history right here. Do you really need a primer full of links to every stupid Guardian, HuffPo, Vox and BuzzFeed piece that found racism in every nugget of feces they scraped together in their mind? It's the existing and continual support of that type of poo poo that got us to this place.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Baloogan posted:

the only hope there is to have is through faith in the god emperor. he will defeat russia, imeplement a minincome GMI, bring racial harmony to america and the world, solve the israel palestine issue fairely and justly, rekindle american industry, anyone who wants a dignified well paying job will get one. That is what trump will do.

I will cut a hand off if he does that.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

new phone who dis posted:

This is some real good revisionist history right here. Do you really need a primer full of links to every stupid Guardian, HuffPo, Vox and BuzzFeed piece that found racism in every nugget of feces they scraped together in their mind? It's the existing and continual support of that type of poo poo that got us to this place.

why does BLM exist?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the conditions of oppression, even racialized oppression, are material (housing/food insecurity, unemployment, etc) and therefore the solution required is material. this is derided as econpol but the telos of any idpol is a material outcome

all idpol is eventually econpol

Yeah but you see if you end poverty for everyone it's actually bad for black people because there's no white people either.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Race Realists posted:

why does BLM exist?

Having one good movement within the folds of the idpol progressives does not excuse the fact that most of it is run by professional grievance-mongers willing to grasp their pearls at the drop of a hat. I hate to break it to you, but those people are undermining BLM as well.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


new phone who dis posted:

This is some real good revisionist history right here. Do you really need a primer full of links to every stupid Guardian, HuffPo, Vox and BuzzFeed piece that found racism in every nugget of feces they scraped together in their mind? It's the existing and continual support of that type of poo poo that got us to this place.

hit me with it buddy

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Remember when Bernie Sanders had security throw out those peaceful BLM protestors and all his wealthy supporters hissed and screeched at them like bird people.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

new phone who dis posted:

Are you guys still really pursuing the "repackage Socialism to try and trick people" strategy in this thread? Because lol.

Well being that it works with republicans who are not McMansion filth, yes.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Jazerus posted:

the thing that makes this argument bad is that most of the poo poo that was "decried as racist" really was racist, just not on the same scale

so it's more like there was a wolf every time the boy said there was but now everyone's bored of wolves so when the t-rex sized dire wolf pack rolls into town they don't give a poo poo

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Ace of Baes posted:

Remember when Bernie Sanders had security throw out those peaceful BLM protestors and all his wealthy supporters hissed and screeched at them like bird people.

Don't you see? Berniebros are the sexist vanguard of the evil, racist establishment run by one Bernard Sanders. LOL that there are still people clamoring for evidence over this poo poo.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
you guys don't understand, if it wasn't for the professional victims then white people would respect BLM!

get murdered

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

new phone who dis posted:

Having one good movement within the folds of the idpol progressives does not excuse the fact that most of it is run by professional grievance-mongers willing to grasp their pearls at the drop of a hat. I hate to break it to you, but those people are undermining BLM as well.

Ohhhh say "uppity" im so close

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Phi230 posted:

Reminder that killing with kindness still requires killing

Kindness means gulags right?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Remember when progressive leftists hijacked mainstream identity politics via the institutions, academia, and the media to be class exclusionary and ignore improving the matireal conditions of individuals who face multiple axes of oppression to instead feed them empty rhetoric and focus on language policing in its absence.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Race Realists posted:

why does BLM exist?

Because black people are the largest minority group in the country and have been second class citizens since their arrival both economically and socially. Racial biases are often compounded by environmental ones. The Roma and Jews were a ready made diaspora in Europe, so they became a convenient scapegoat for all society's ills. Only for the Democrats who don't actually want anything to change, it's become the opposite. "We could break up the big banks, but would it solve racism?" No! But it would actually help because it would reduce predatory lending practices and require more community involvement.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Ace of Baes posted:

Remember when progressive leftists hijacked mainstream identity politics via the institutions, academia, and the media to be class exclusionary and ignore improving the matireal conditions of individuals who face multiple axes of oppression to instead feed them empty rhetoric and focus on language policing in its absence.

And then still got killed on the minority vote when compared to previous elections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/upshot/how-the-obama-coalition-crumbled-leaving-an-opening-for-trump.html

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

lol if you think anyone who was running for office in 2016 was a loving progressive

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Pomp posted:

lol if you think anyone who was running for office in 2016 was a loving progressive

Duhhh progressive means bad hyuck hyuck

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Pomp posted:

lol if you think anyone who was running for office in 2016 was a loving progressive

There was one. But speaking of that time is forbidden.

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

no but is someone seriously arguing RACISM IS OVER

even if racism was over it's currently having it's comeback tour, with special guest fascism

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