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CoffeeBooze posted:I dunno if you follow US politics but........ The grandson of German immigrants is going to be president and his wife is a Slovenian immigrant... 
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:The grandson of German immigrants is going to be president and his wife is a Slovenian immigrant... Yeah but they're not brown so they're the GOOD kind of immigrant (Cheeto orange is OK)
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xthetenth posted:Anyone have an opinion about Rogan's The Fall of the Ottomans? It's right up my alley as far as subject matter and I'm looking at it on sale at the bookstore. Passes the smell test over here.
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Dec 24, 2016 21:16
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MrYenko posted:
yeah this, now that wart humper got japanese tanks
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OwlFancier posted:Like this: The fake beard on the guy 10 seconds in is magical 
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Happy Holidays milhist thread. I want to express my sincere thanks for how consistently good this thread has been. Your enthusiasm and knowledge has improved my life significantly. (I won major points with my best friend's new girlfriend by knowing what a historiography was!) Question : how do armed services generally handle Christmas?
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:The grandson of German immigrants is going to be president and his wife is a Slovenian immigrant... A possibly illegal Slovenian immigrant at that! There are some legal irregularities surrounding her work visa. 
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Cythereal posted:A possibly illegal Slovenian immigrant at that! There are some legal irregularities surrounding her work visa. Hey, a wall only keeps those kinds of poors who have to walk out. That isn't going to do poo poo for a private jet.
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Eela6 posted:Question : how do armed services generally handle Christmas? Extra duty.
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Eela6 posted:
Alcohol.
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Eela6 posted:Happy Holidays milhist thread. I want to express my sincere thanks for how consistently good this thread has been. Your enthusiasm and knowledge has improved my life significantly. (I won major points with my best friend's new girlfriend by knowing what a historiography was!) 
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Dec 25, 2016 00:52
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The war on Christmas continues
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Christmas is still winning, checks out.
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Taerkar posted:Christmas is still winning, checks out. Thanksgiving is falling, back to phase line Halloween.
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xthetenth posted:Thanksgiving is falling, back to phase line Halloween. I don't know what war you've been watching. Thanksgiving was overrun by Christmas a decade ago, and Halloween is dropping pumpkins danger close to try to keep Santa on the right side of the October-November line. If we don't do something quick we'll have Elves streaming through the Labor Day gap on their way to the Fourth of July.
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They already have a forward OP in July.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Halloween is dropping pumpkins danger close to try to keep Santa on the right side of the October-November line. Just so long as Halloween doesn't resort to Hevi Shot to defend its pumpkins.
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Eela6 posted:
I took leave and am with my family, my friends who didn't take leave got Friday and Monday off. Last year when I was in language training I got two weeks of block leave where I could take time off or be put on pointless details. Generally they make you do pointless details if you don't take leave in my experience.
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Eela6 posted:Happy Holidays milhist thread. I want to express my sincere thanks for how consistently good this thread has been. Your enthusiasm and knowledge has improved my life significantly. (I won major points with my best friend's new girlfriend by knowing what a historiography was!) When I was in Erbil last year the Kurds gave us Christmas dinner. It was really tasty!  Pita bread, stuffed peppers, lots of meat. I think it was goat or lamb and chicken.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I don't know what war you've been watching. Thanksgiving was overrun by Christmas a decade ago, and Halloween is dropping pumpkins danger close to try to keep Santa on the right side of the October-November line. If we don't do something quick we'll have Elves streaming through the Labor Day gap on their way to the Fourth of July. We are living in dark times.
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Cyrano4747 posted:The fake beard on the guy 10 seconds in is magical I know, I'm sure you'd get kicked out of the taliban for having your chin flocked.
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Don Gato posted:I took leave and am with my family, my friends who didn't take leave got Friday and Monday off. Last year when I was in language training I got two weeks of block leave where I could take time off or be put on pointless details. In a few hours I get to drive around again making sure all the gates are locked and that staff duty didn't fall asleep or die. Woo! To be fair I signed myself up for this day cause I don't have kids, and my subordinates not taking leave do.
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mlmp08 posted:In a few hours I get to drive around again making sure all the gates are locked and that staff duty didn't fall asleep or die. Woo! Sounds about right. Obviously it depends on branch of service and whether you're deployed or what, but usually there's a standdown (don't come in unless you have duty), and the single guys and the guys without kids will pick up duty for the family guys. Aside from the most necessary tasks (topside/roving watch, loading potable water, etc), everyone's down on the mess decks watching movies anyway. The duty chief will likely send the duty driver off to the exchange or wal mart with all the cash in the MWR fund to buy strings of lights to hang from the sail and lifelines. Someone will make funnel cakes in the deep fryer. If someone in your duty section has a Filipina wife, she will probably show up to the pier with about 80lb of pancit and lumpia. It's basically the military without adult supervision.
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Eela6 posted:Happy Holidays milhist thread. I want to express my sincere thanks for how consistently good this thread has been. Your enthusiasm and knowledge has improved my life significantly. (I won major points with my best friend's new girlfriend by knowing what a historiography was!) Pro romance language tip: -ography always means 'study of'  'graph' = writing = egghead neuroticism about thoery and methodology  What are the openings on either side of the turret of this tank? Floodlights?
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Pro romance language tip: -ography always means 'study of' Rangefinder.
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My father and I just watched Rogue One, and were debating the Imperial ground and space tactics. One question I have is, are the Mon Calamari ships battlecrusiers?
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Mycroft Holmes posted:My father and I just watched Rogue One, and were debating the Imperial ground and space tactics. One question I have is, are the Mon Calamari ships battlecrusiers? If anything, it's the other way around, seeing as Imperial Star Destroyers can be destroyed with one or two shots to the shield generators
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Animal posted:Rangefinder. You see them on battleships too, if the turret has ears it's probably a stereoscopic rangefinder.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:My father and I just watched Rogue One, and were debating the Imperial ground and space tactics. One question I have is, are the Mon Calamari ships battlecrusiers? See, they call them "star cruisers", but Mon Cal ships are famous for having redundant shields, heavy armor, and lots of guns so they seem like what we would call battleships/dreadnaughts. Like Meatbag said, ISD's are probably the closest thing to battlecruisers, with really squishy shields (though that may be a design flaw not a conscious choice) but battleship level armament.
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The old lore is that the Mon Calamari ships were civilian vessels converted into warships, with the largest ones being pleasure liners. They'd generally be worse at focusing firepower than Imperial star destroyers and were not as well armed, but had redundant shield generators. No idea how much of this has been kept with the new canon.
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meatbag posted:If anything, it's the other way around, seeing as Imperial Star Destroyers can be destroyed with one or two shots to the shield generators I thought the shields went down because of a Y-wing bombing run?
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Stairmaster posted:I thought the shields went down because of a Y-wing bombing run? Y-wings putting a few torpedoes into the single, non-redundant shield generator sitting out in the open.
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Crazycryodude posted:Y-wings putting a few torpedoes into the single, non-redundant shield generator sitting out in the open. Given all the times in Star Wars movies things go through/under gaps in the shields, I'm pretty sure there's some technobabble reason that all shield systems have gaps, and the Rebel Alliance trains heavily to send bombers through those gaps to soften up Star Destroyers. You could further hypothesize that the standardized design of Imperial ships (they're virtually all pyramids with the shield generators on an identical bridge structure at one vertex) means that the gap is always in the same place, making this training incredibly focused on such designs. Even if the Imperials wanted to create a similar doctrine, each Rebel ship design requires a different gap approach.
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The Imperial administration was really obsessed with a nonexistent Star Destroyer gap and consequently neglected picket ships and escorts is what I'm getting out of this.
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I think it's partially that the standard energy shielding doesn't stop proton torpedoes so if you can get a Y or B wing through the fighter screen it can pretty much kill anything on the outside that isn't heavily armored, too. What the Empire really needed was a whole pile of anti-fighter escort frigates to keep the Rebel starfighters off, but they poured all their money into big scary things because ~Tarkin Doctrine~
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Really the underlying problem is the poor ergonomics of the TIE fighter cockpit. Doctrinally facilities like Scarif are supposed to keep a few wings on patrol at all times, but this proved too wearing on the pilots. That's why in all the key battles the Imperials had to scramble their fighter escort in the middle of the battle, which is disastrous.
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Nine of Eight posted:The Imperial administration was really obsessed with a nonexistent Star Destroyer gap and consequently neglected picket ships and escorts is what I'm getting out of this. What's particularly showing of the Empire's doctrinal failures is that they're DESTROYERS and therefore should be great at hunting down and destroying small torpedo launching vessels. But no, they even have blind spots so big that a Millennium Falcon can completely avoid detection by staying in her six o'clock! And given how fond of tractor beams the Empire is, how come they don't use it in combat? Lock onto X-Wings one at a time and train all your turbolasers on the sitting duck, rinse and repeat.
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