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The Phlegmatist posted:Well, y'know, can't judge theological ideas from the character of whom they originate from. the guy also runs a loving hilarious charade attempt at a great books college. it's called New Saint Andrews College and this New York Times article gives a pretty good impression of what it's like. it's like they took all the worst parts of twentysomething catholic dudes who have silver cigarette cases and think chesterton was the apex of theological reflection, and then mixed in the most awful right-wing reformed theology you can imagine
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quote:The college handbook forbids students to embrace or promote “doctrinal errors” from the 4th through the 21st centuries, “such as Arianism, Socinianism, Pelagianism, Skepticism, Feminism.” If drawn to such ideas, they must “inform the administration immediately and honestly in a letter offering to withdraw from the College.” Cultural revolution cannot tolerate heretics. uh oh
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Bel_Canto posted:the guy also runs a loving hilarious charade attempt at a great books college. it's called New Saint Andrews College and this New York Times article gives a pretty good impression of what it's like. it's like they took all the worst parts of twentysomething catholic dudes who have silver cigarette cases and think chesterton was the apex of theological reflection, and then mixed in the most awful right-wing reformed theology you can imagine quote:As Matthew McCabe, an alumnus, puts it, “We want to be medieval Protestants.” what the gently caress quote:Doug Wilson proudly declares himself more right-wing than most Idaho conservatives. “They voted for Bush; I’d vote for Jefferson Davis,” he chuckles. what the gently caress quote:The college handbook forbids students to embrace or promote “doctrinal errors” from the 4th through the 21st centuries, “such as Arianism, Socinianism, Pelagianism, Skepticism, Feminism.” what the gently caress quote:Wilson emphasizes his flexibility when it comes to Old Testament law. “You can’t apply Scripture woodenly,” he says; instead of executing them, “you might exile some homosexuals, depending on the circumstances and the age of the victim.” He adds: “There are circumstances in which I’d be in favor of execution for adultery. . . what the gently caress these sound like the worst and most pretentious people ever, goddamn
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do they know what the middle ages were like it's not like what they said
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These assholes are the people who make it so that every time I mention I studied the middle ages, I have to take 15 min refuting poo poo about witch burnings and the world being flat
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There's actually a bunch of leftist Calvinists I talk to on the regular but nothing's solidified into a singular movement yet, and then I went and left the whole thing to join the Catholics. At least the Calvinists don't have any alt-right infiltration going on. Well except Kinism and FV but they'll both get you banned from Calvinist forums instantly. Catholics, on the other hand, have I told you about deus vult my friend.
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also gently caress the csa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW7pho53EPE 
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fascists ruin everything. you might think your religion is an exception but fascists find a way if every fascist died in their sleep tonight the world would be a better place
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Mo Tzu posted:fascists ruin everything. you might think your religion is an exception but fascists find a way agreed, calvinists have a weird problem where everyone becomes an ancap. if i hear "taxation is theft" one more time i'm gonna flip.
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fascism is the sheerest idolatry and cannot be fought with arguments or institutions, because fascism idolizes pre-rational instinct and action free of reflection. you don't reason with fascists, you protect yourself and others by any means necessary.
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well wandering into Catholic/Eastern Orthodox slapfights has been weird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins APOLOGIZE FOR THIS BEFORE I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SACK OF CONSTANTINOPLE
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My white backpack boldly displays, in large black letters, "This Machine Converts Fascists."
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Yeah, a disconcerning amount of deus vult memesters seem to have something against muslims and stuff. Good Catholic humor Facebook groups: not a thing
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The Phlegmatist posted:agreed, Excuse me, but 'anarcho-capitalism' is a linguistic fallacy. You cannot apply the prefix to something that confers illegitimate state authority( in an anarchist analysis anyway) to another entity, no matter if said entity is a market power or a communist party. If these fucks could actually read and think at the same time, they'd realize anarchism is a doctrine derived from the socialist labour movement of the 1880s and is irrefutably a class struggle ideology. Hell, if taxation is theft, why aren't the slave labour company towns these assholes dream about theft?
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Everybody who says "taxation is theft" secretly believes they willed themselves into existence and never benefited from the money used for the common good.
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Sure, I guess it just riles me up when self-professed christians start with this kind of thing. Merry christmas, liturgigoons! May God preserve you and yours, I'm going off to make confectionary and then see the fam.
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JcDent posted:Everybody who says "taxation is theft" secretly believes they willed themselves into existence and never benefited from the money used for the common good. If my neighbor takes my money without permission, and then uses it to build something I benefit from, it's still theft. The state and taxation are essentially a social contract, but it's a contract you never chose and that you can't opt out of (to a degree, at least the process of opting out would seriously disrupt your life). I certainly wouldn't want to live in an ancap society. But if you're a young healthy non-poor man and don't care about other people, it certainly has an appeal.
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pidan posted:If my neighbor takes my money without permission, and then uses it to build something I benefit from, it's still theft. The state and taxation are essentially a social contract, but it's a contract you never chose and that you can't opt out of (to a degree, at least the process of opting out would seriously disrupt your life). I don't think most people disagree( or would disagree if they thought good about it) that taxation is essentially an extension of the exploitation of the rich by the poor - but it doesn't mean you can use that knowledge to arrive at the conclusion that hyper-capitalism is somehow a good idea, and have real anarchists take you seriously 
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I have no clue what the leftist ideal of non-theft taxation would be, then.
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JcDent posted:I have no clue what the leftist ideal of non-theft taxation would be, then. Abolishment of capitalism, replaced with voluntary and participatory labour economies. If everything is available and you control your place of employment, it's hardly taxation, though I'm sure some would argue the point.
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Tias posted:Merry christmas, liturgigoons! May God preserve you and yours, I'm going off to make confectionary and then see the fam. Merry Christmas, Tias. God preserve you, too. Bel_Canto posted:fascism is the sheerest idolatry and cannot be fought with arguments or institutions, because fascism idolizes pre-rational instinct and action free of reflection. you don't reason with fascists, you protect yourself and others by any means necessary. Fascism is also one of the idolatries that is comfortable with aggressive violence and killing, making it dangerous. Thirteen Orphans posted:My white backpack boldly displays, in large black letters, "This Machine Converts Fascists." That is a good message. Only dead fascists have to remain fascists. Every living fascist still has the chance to doubt and ultimately reject fascism. Caufman fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Dec 24, 2016 |
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But until then - taxation. Progressive, if possible. God look over you all and yours, threadgoons!
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JcDent posted:But until then - taxation. Progressive, if possible. Taxation is good, it finances social security and infrastructure and such. But you could argue that this should not be done by the state but rather by voluntary associations. And then, if you fundamentally disagree with taxation, they're taking your money against your will. I think the problem here is that it's the state that gives your money any value in the first place, and also that "private property is to be used in a pro-social manner" is literally in our constitution. I'm really enjoying the Christmas opinion pieces in our newspapers, peace and love for all <3 Merry Christmas to all you goons! Merry pre-Christmas to those on the other calendar.
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Tias posted:Excuse me, but 'anarcho-capitalism' is a linguistic fallacy. You cannot apply the prefix to something that confers illegitimate state authority( in an anarchist analysis anyway) to another entity, no matter if said entity is a market power or a communist party. Well the idea is that the church takes over all functions of the social welfare system, and can be funded entirely through voluntary donation. Who knows what happens to infrastructure development and the military though. The minute you give the church a military force it seems like your voluntary tithes aren't so voluntary anymore because surprise we're back to the whole implicit threats of violence thing. These people consider the premises of the position very well and spend no time contemplating the consequences. I did, at one point, get a Calvinist ancap to agree that the military should be disbanded. Unfortunately he didn't immediately start speaking in Plain Speech and fly away to the world of Quakerdom.
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StashAugustine posted:my dream in life is obsidian to make a reboot Griffons of Kinsale?! No one responded when I asked about stares you bastards!
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Merry Christmas Liturgigoons! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYnJOJRDTbA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC1jJC3aBLQ
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WerrWaaa posted:Griffons of Kinsale?! No one responded when I asked about stares you bastards! Nah this was in Indiana
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The odds! Same thing happened after evensong here is LA the other day. Note: I'm from Indiana, so further coincidence!
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Never forget, there are Christians out there that you haven't even found yet.
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Today the priest compared Jesus to a nuclear power plant. Because not many people have actually seen the real thing, but we still see the light produced by them everywhere. This reminded me of Fallout, but that's beyond the point. May God's radioactive light shine upon you, thread people. Merry Christmas!
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WerrWaaa posted:The odds! Same thing happened after evensong here is LA the other day. Note: I'm from Indiana, so further coincidence! Yeah a bunch of people from my parish have a tradition of drinking together on Thursday nights at a local restaurant in Lafayette, and every year they get in a singing competition with the Anglicans. This year they had two dozen people from their choir and we had six and only one could sing so it wasn't close but we gave it a shot!
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A little girl at Mass today informed the congregation, at the priest's urging, that the most important thing about Christmas is 'geezus'.
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StashAugustine posted:Yeah a bunch of people from my parish have a tradition of drinking together on Thursday nights at a local restaurant in Lafayette, and every year they get in a singing competition with the Anglicans. This year they had two dozen people from their choir and we had six and only one could sing so it wasn't close but we gave it a shot! Darn Anglicans ruined Christmas for good Bavarian Catholics as well this year!  (because they found a 4-ton British bomb from the war in the city of Augsburg and tomorrow more than 50,000 people are going to be evacuated instead of celebrating Christmas at home, including the bishop). I wonder how many of the evacuees will dare to make the jump across the Lech river into my fair hometown to attend Mass?  In any way I just met some people of my church choir by coincidence who told me that apparently the inhabitants of an evacuated home for the handicapped will spend tomorrow in my parish instead and we're supposed to sing some carols for them. Which is a wonderful idea, but I'm sure a lot of us will first hear of this tomorrow morning. Hopefully they won't have to go to a delicious Christmas roast immediately after Mass, I don't think that the evacuees deserve me singing to them solo  Merry Christmas to all of you, even those of us who'll celebrate it only in 13 days! 
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#NotMyChristmas Merry Christmas y'all.
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Merry Christmas, folks.
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pidan posted:Taxation is good, it finances social security and infrastructure and such. But you could argue that this should not be done by the state but rather by voluntary associations. And then, if you fundamentally disagree with taxation, they're taking your money against your will. I've got good news. Loopholes in the US mean that taxes are already mostly voluntary for the rich.
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Merry Christmas friends! Wishing you all a happy and healthy celebration. When do the folks on the Eastern calendar have Christmas?
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Happy birthday God.
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