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Hemingway To Go! posted:Someone spoiled that series in a cspam thread I read and the summary made my eyes roll so hard that I saw my brain ...yeah, I'll bite. I want to read this spoiler.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:...yeah, I'll bite. I want to read this spoiler. this is the post i read warning: spoils EVERYTHING
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I watched The OA and I was impressed with how stupid and silly and up its own rear end it was. By the big climactic ending I was laughing. I was laughing so hard I saw stars. I am the fifth movement.
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The OA is one of the most hilarious pretentious shows I've ever seen. The first episode had my girlfriend in tears of laughter and not in a good way. The actual story is kiiiiinda interesting but holy gently caress does it have the worst execution ever. Having an HOUR LONG cold open intro that literally could have been cut is hilarious. Also everyone's hair looks ludicrous in it.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Does the OA stand for anything? It stands for two things and they are both really really stupid. Like you'll figure out what it stands for and say "that is the dumbest thing it could have been" and then you'll hear what it also means and say "oh nevermind that tied"
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How does it compare to watching Under the Done?
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priznat posted:The finale involves a bunch of idiots who think they are angels performing an interpretive dance during a school shooting. Which confuses the shooter long enough for a cafeteria worker to tackle him this sounds amazing tbh
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Zzulu posted:this sounds amazing tbh It actually would be if you hadn't watched several hours of something that seemed like it was building to something completely different. I kept watching for the abductor-doctor dude, he was well acted and an actual interesting character unlike everyone else.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:this is the post i read I'm guessing it's not as good as twin peaks though.
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Whoever said that Plinkett is the bad guy in Max Landis Presents: Dirk Gently (A Doctor Who Story) was very much right in this assessment. Not sure if it make the show better or worse, though.
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There's a seven minute miniplinkett on rogue one I've also seen rogue one now I kind of feel more like the hitb review where they were like "I want to like the movie and don't get why I don't", and the review didn't really prepare me for how brutal it is when they kill everyone. Everyone I went with hated it because it they aren't all that into Star Wars and thought it was depressing
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the first plinkett i straight up disagree with the core of the argument is "imagine if this wasnt a star wars movie" which i dont find very convincing
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Fojar38 posted:the first plinkett i straight up disagree with Well yeah I mean the title says star wars how the hell am I supposed to suspend my disbelief under these conditions.
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Dec 26, 2016 16:40
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those hack loving frauds
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I guess RLM has went full circle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntu-JYijTl8
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The miniplinkett only reinforced how wrong they are with TFA and R1. They refuse to grade R1 for what it was not what they wanted aka "More rehashing of Star Wars/TFA" or "That heist movie" aka Many Bothans died. R1 is a different kind of movie, it used Star Wars as a back drop for it and it worked. I also think they don't understand the value of not having dialogue and using non-verbal communication as they seem to expect everyone to talk like they are in the Gilmore Girls. Their example cut doesn't work as the Death Star scene is built around having dialogue. The RLM team intentionally made that fight scene longer than it really was, out of context and skipped the non-verbal cues. They also miss the fact these are normal people, spies don't quip like James Bond, an "Orphan" growing up rough is not going to be open about her feelings. I think they hosed up and I think they know it after praising TFA so highly when it wasn't justified in the first place as the bar for TFA was "better than the prequels". These two reviews seems to have broken them somehow. It didn't help that they did TFA's review like an hour after watching it which is right inside the after glow zone, safter glow being something JJ does very well. If you examine any of JJ's movies they fall apart and TFA is no exception. Hemingway To Go! posted:I've also seen rogue one now R1 ending was so that the spot of hope was that much the brighter if you knew a cursory amount of Star Wars. It was an ESB ending where the Empire won but the good guys live on to fight another day with a squeal. Here it was mission accomplished with the message of hope sent, but at great cost, with the sequel already in place this time round. People complain about the Princess Leia scene but that was exactly why it was there, to link the viewer to the originals whether you knew that detail or not.
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I loving love star wars. how dare those hack frauds?!!
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R1 sucks. Merry Christmas, needs
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Randarkman posted:I loving love star wars. how dare those hack frauds?!! This but unironically
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Quantum of Phallus posted:R1 sucks. Merry Christmas, needs
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Lmao at that analysis of the fight scene. Just lmao. The way the spy bloke reacted to the orphan lady sorting out the bad guys without the blaster gun he'd refused to give her was more witty than Han's stupid quip, really.
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Paladinus posted:Lmao at that analysis of the fight scene. Just lmao. The way the spy bloke reacted to the orphan lady sorting out the bad guys without the blaster gun he'd refused to give her was more witty than Han's stupid quip, really. What? gently caress you. The action scene in IV is waaayy more tense and interesting and banter between Han and Leia is actually pretty amusing as is the whole situation of Han, Luke and Chewie leading a rescue and having no idea or plan on what they really are supposed to do and Leia having to take over the whole thing. The scene in Rogue One, for me at least, was just another groan inducing action scene of the main characters being able to take out stormtroopers with such ease that killing them becomes a joke, which removes all the tension. I actually posit that the Empire actually was threatenign in IV and V (maybe VI as well until they are massacred by Ewoks) and that the Stormtroopers never seemed like a joke to fight for the heroes.
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Randarkman posted:What? gently caress you. The action scene in IV is waaayy more tense and interesting and banter between Han and Leia is actually pretty amusing as is the whole situation of Han, Luke and Chewie leading a rescue and having no idea or plan on what they really are supposed to do and Leia having to take over the whole thing. The scene in Rogue One, for me at least, was just another groan inducing action scene of the main characters being able to take out stormtroopers with such ease that killing them becomes a joke, which removes all the tension. I actually posit that the Empire actually was threatenign in IV and V (maybe VI as well until they are massacred by Ewoks) and that the Stormtroopers never seemed like a joke to fight for the heroes.
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temple posted:I guess RLM has went full circle. this was really nice and i enjoyed it and also i hope it made rich feel good too
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temple posted:The hallways fights on the death star is plot armor with banter. Nothing matters either but it is presented in a tense fashion. They storm troopers miss so much that its a cultural meme. That doesn't make it bad. Likewise, two hardened fighters not talking doesn't ruin the RO scene either. They are different. Which, Mike has a thing about movies needing to be like other movies to be good. It is a blind spot in his criticism that comes up often. Its hard for him to allow movies to be different and good, he has certain favorites that he believes are "right" and films don't use the previously established conventions, Mike writes them off as "wrong". He is often correct in pointing out effective storytelling but blind to innovation. Presentation is key though. Stormtroopers missing all the time and being useless is really a thing that exists outside of the movies and was never really a meme that was invoked in the original movies, which treated them seriously (at least for the first trwo movies) even though when faced with the heroes they ofcourse can't kill them. Ther aren't any scenes where the heroes clear out a room or street of storm troopers with such efficieny as to make it comical, and most action encounters are in the context of the heroes trying to escape or resuce someone with storm troopers and such being there to up the stakes and heighten the tension. You say the fights on the death star is "plot armor with banter" but I want you to look at those fights and tell me how many of those there are, and how many storm troopers there are and how many are killed. Thing is it won't be that many, which I think is part of what preserves the tension, the heroes definitely have plot armor, as is proper, but the actual scenes are small enough in terms of scale and length to actually make it seem kind of plausible and you never get the impression that they are just able to cut through the storm troopers with ease. They have to escape and there's an urgency about it. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Randarkman posted:Presentation is key though. Stormtroopers missing all the time and being useless is really a thing that exists outside of the movies and was never really a meme that was invoked in the original movies, which treated them seriously (at least for the first trwo movies) even though when faced with the heroes they ofcourse can't kill them. Ther aren't any scenes where the heroes clear out a room or street of storm troopers with such efficieny as to make it comical, and most action encounters are in the context of the heroes trying to escape or resuce someone with storm troopers and such being there to up the stakes and heighten the tension. lol
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Episode IV is actually extremely corny schlock and lacks a lot of tension in places it should, the entire time they're on the death Star is like one of those Scooby Doo scenes where the gang is trying to outrun the bad guy. https://youtu.be/WE7IRO-EhPk
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The movie reeked of design by committee even though the directing shone through. They needed to flesh out Saw Guerra's relationship with Jyn to characterize her more, they needed to make Cassian more of a bastard to make the universe actually gritty and they needed to flesh out Donny Yen and the Jedi temples to make the Force more organic to the story. Ponda Babba and C3P0 totally took me out of the movie. I really liked Rogue One but the main premise of the mini Plinkett rings true the characters just didn't have a lot of chemistry with the world or each other and they split the antagonist into three people it is a major fuckup on the part of the writers. They probably should have limited the setting to Jedha and Scarif. Oh yeah and stop putting prestige talent like Jiang Wen and Forest Whitaker in your movies if your are going to use them as wall paper. Dmitri-9 fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Randarkman posted:Presentation is key though. Stormtroopers missing all the time and being useless is really a thing that exists outside of the movies and was never really a meme that was invoked in the original movies, which treated them seriously (at least for the first trwo movies) even though when faced with the heroes they ofcourse can't kill them. Ther aren't any scenes where the heroes clear out a room or street of storm troopers with such efficieny as to make it comical, and most action encounters are in the context of the heroes trying to escape or resuce someone with storm troopers and such being there to up the stakes and heighten the tension. the original movies were boring and the effects were poo poo compared to the new one this is valid critique
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Dmitri-9 posted:The movie reeked of design by committee even though the directing shone through. They needed to flesh out Saw Guerra's relationship with Jyn to characterize her more, they needed to make Cassian more of a bastard to make the universe actually gritty and they needed to flesh out Donny Yuen and the Jedi temples to make the Force more organic to the story. Ponda Babba and CP30 totally took me out of the movie. I really liked Rogue One but the main premise of the mini Plinkett rings true the characters just didn't have a lot of chemistry with the world or each other and they split the antagonist into three people it is a major fuckup on the part of the writers. They probably should have limited the setting to Jedha and Scarif. I don't think the committee design had that much influence. If it did it would have left an opening for those characters to be in a sequel instead of vaporising them. Cassian was a bastard and made abundantly clear multiple times, murdering more people would have been for shits and giggles when the first half needed to move along. Jyn and Saw could have done more work, but to be frank I am ok they didn't as it would have fallen into "Origin story" territory which is just NO. Plus Saw is just painful to watch. The Force was organic to the story by not having a Jedi. At times it was questionable whether it was the Force, as the Monk operated more on faith than direct manipulation of the force which is closer to how the Force is originally portray in ANH before the massive power creep that happened in TFA. The insides of the temple would be nice, but again, pressed for time. Instead we got a pretty sweet ambush that looks like something out of Iraq. I am ok with the characters having "weak" chemistry in this case because these are normal people. These people are damaged goods, they aren't going to pour out their sins to the first person they meet. They were working to together for a common goal but that doesn't mean they have to like each other or have their own agenda. These barriers breakdown before the last act leading to Cassian saving Jyn and their embrace at the end. Baze and Churrit also make up their different view point in the Force. Jiang Wen was effective, but you are giving him more credit than you should and he is the straight man to Donny Yuen who was the star of the two.
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I haven't seen R1, but stop whining and crying over how Mike and Rich don't like it.
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a bone to pick posted:Episode IV is actually extremely corny schlock and lacks a lot of tension in places it should, the entire time they're on the death Star is like one of those Scooby Doo scenes where the gang is trying to outrun the bad guy. Scooby doo was good. Edit- if the Force Awakens was just Kylo Ren running around fruitlessly after the main cast and tripping over his cape and poo poo constantly I woulda liked it.
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IM RETARDED IDIOT 'DARE' FROM TRIBALWARS
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Thank you for your courage.
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Screencapped.
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well its better than the rogue one discussion
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TFA was a good movie and the most venomous criticism of it comes from 4chan speds who are mad that there's a woman in it who doesn't take her shirt off
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