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orcinus posted:This is getting ridiculous: Isn't that being made in Unity? Bunch of guys making a way better FPS game in a second language than "videogame legend Chris Roberts" and his 350 lackeys.
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BeefThief posted:This whole mess has made me really appreciate publishers, and accountability in general, in game dev and all things. Long live Ubisoft
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HycoCam posted:But side note--I was this backer in 2013! I gifted my nephew a Freelancer package for Christmas in 2013 and was smug in the belief I was the coolest uncle ever. Fast forward a few months and I asked if he had tried Arena Commander only to learn he had traded the package for Steam credits. He was twelve at the time and in his words, "I hate to break it to you, but that Star Citizen game is never going to come out." Took me a few more weeks after that until I came to understand his wisdom. You've told this story before and it's one of my favorites from the thread. Good on your nephew for realizing what he had and cashing out. From the mouths of babes.
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peter gabriel posted:Long live Ubisoft Ubisoft went through this MMO dev poo poo many years ago with Shadowbane...I remember getting my hopes up for that and getting burned 15 years ago and it pains me so to see the shitizens digging deeper in the pee well
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I watched my neighbor chucking a shoe into a tree for 45 minutes yesterday. I didn't watch all of it of course, I'm not a masochist, but I kept checking in. Apparently, one of the family kids came over and got a little drone for Christmas. It was quickly lodged 30 feet up on a tree branch. It made me think of a child getting gifted a Star Citizen package. Your ship is stuck in branches (Lumberyard, get it?), and someone's chucking a shoe at it. The drone was probably only 10% of the price, and they at least got to fly it for a little bit. Clearly a better deal. I just went out and checked. It's still up there. It looks lodged in such a way that it might possibly be up there until the branch comes down. There's no way to climb to it, ladder is clearly is impossible. Cherry picker maybe, but why bother for a $20 drone. Keep chucking shoes at it, crobbler.
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Rad Russian posted:Yes Chris Roberts, the man that had no idea how zero gravity actually works in the video with Richard Garriott, based his game "from the beginning" on cloud computing. Right. He's been out of the tech industry for something like 15 years. I'm pretty sure he has no idea what cloud computing even is. He's not a smart person at all, and that's backed by a mountain of evidence form selecting the worst possible engine for a MMO, to contracting Illfonic, to paying 60 million for mocap that can't be imported into CryEngine. He acts smart but has no idea about how any of the technologies he blabbers about actually function. Cloud is dumb buzzword bullshit, except for the server virtualization stuff (which is really awesome), the only actually cool and good thing about cloud. All the rest is bog standard co-location datacenter stuff. I remember when cloud was going to fix everything for XBox One. I can't wait for Amazon to "mesh" servers for his instances. What the hell happened to all the in-house mocap stuff they had as a stretch goal? Didn't they buy 4 studios worth, or some poo poo?
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XK posted:I watched my neighbor chucking a shoe into a tree for 45 minutes yesterday. I didn't watch all of it of course, I'm not a masochist, but I kept checking in. I've seen a few Husbans develop sentience and try to escape. These are two of the more successful ways I've found to retrieve them: https://www.amazon.com/BLUNT-ARCHERY-ARROW-POINTS-UNIVERSAL/dp/B007SPJBIM https://www.amazon.com/PockeTech-Blades-Doesnt-UPGRADED-Throwing/dp/B01D6H9E78
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I love these. It doesn't matter whether or not you can logically deny the accusation that Citizenry is a cult - you gave your money to an incompetent and Star Citizen is never coming out. It doesn't matter what branch of CryEngine Lumberyard represents, what version of the game released, and whether or not it did so by the end of 2016 - you gave your money to an incompetent and Star Citizen is never coming out. It doesn't matter who Derek Smart is, if his games are good, or if his opinions matter or not - you gave your money to an incompetent and Star Citizen is never coming out. It doesn't matter if goons are "evil", "jealous", or any number of other adjectives you can come up with - you gave your money to an incompetent and Star Citizen is never coming out. It's possible to win every battle and still lose the war - and with Chris Roberts, it's actually unavoidable. Next time back someone who isn't an inept piece of poo poo.
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HycoCam posted:I've seen a few Husbans develop sentience and try to escape. These are two of the more successful ways I've found to retrieve them: It's way up there, with plenty of branches below. Plus it's over a street, lightly traveled, but still an annoyance, and with parked cars to avoid damaging. That poo poo is up there unless something plucks it free, or until it falls down and gets run over. Frankly, I was just waiting for the shoe to get stuck. XK fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Crobbler forever hucking a shoe into tree.
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Rad Russian posted:to paying 60 million for mocap that can't be imported into CryEngine
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Derek is so important around here we loving banned him so Lowtax could get his :tenbux:
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Combat Pretzel posted:What the gently caress did they mocap, that costs that much? Have you heard of mopping floors?
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Combat Pretzel posted:What the gently caress did they mocap, that costs that much? Everything, multiple times, inefficiently.
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All I wanted to do was play a modern wing commander. Now i'm a Bezosian LumberTard
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Samizdata posted:Gotta ask, sorry. Does she yell "GO FASTA, LOUSY MECH!"?? Usually it's "BEEP BEEP!"
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Goobs posted:
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Don't modern military aircraft have this feature? I thought as soon as a plane detected someone had missile lock on it, it started screaming and flashing lights at the pilot to let him know he's going to die in a few seconds if he doesn't do something.
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Sunswipe posted:Don't modern military aircraft have this feature? I thought as soon as a plane detected someone had missile lock on it, it started screaming and flashing lights at the pilot to let him know he's going to die in a few seconds if he doesn't do something. A RWR is a little more complex, it uses symbology and a 360 degree display to communicate threat type, altitude and bearing.  The 29 in a diamond indicates a MiG-29 that is actively painting you for a radar guided missile shot. The upwards carat indicates he is above you. Polikarpov fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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orcinus posted:This is getting ridiculous: Every time they post something I want it more and more. It really does look incredible.
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Combat Pretzel posted:What the gently caress did they mocap, that costs that much? Gary Oldman.
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Combat Pretzel posted:What the gently caress did they mocap, that costs that much? They paid Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, Mark Hamill, and some other actors to mocap their parts in the game multiple times because they kept loving up.
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ewe2 posted:Promise me that if the game actually comes out, Goons will adopt Kilrathi avatars and meowing speech packs the better to taunt their victims with. That was the goal 4 years ago when there was thought that there might actually be a game to do that in.
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Sandweed posted:Derek is so important around here we loving banned him so Lowtax could get his :tenbux: And people in the thread are super deferential to him and never mock him.  Or his games.
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https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/813437631522623488 How the gently caress would you know, Ben?
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Combat Pretzel posted:What the gently caress did they mocap, that costs that much? They rented this place for something like 3-4 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imaginarium_Studios This in between shoots for poo poo like avengers and star wars. XK posted:Cloud is dumb buzzword bullshit, except for the server virtualization stuff Yeah, cloud is really loving cool if you're a server admin.
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Mirificus posted:reddit idiocy hmmm yes an "arcade mode idiot light" such as the RWR / MLWS in every modern military aircraft has no place in the most fidelitous space game of all time
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http://wccftech.com/star-citizen-switches-engines/ Erin Roberts lumberyard comment quote:Thanks for getting in touch. As you’ve (correctly) surmised, any suggestions that the engine switch would have a major impact on our development couldn’t be further from reality. Lumberyard is completely based on Cryengine, yet with a lot of improvements. As a consequence, we do not have to change the fundamental core engine at all which is why this change has had absolutely no effect on our development of Star Citizen. shortened Tldr quote:As you’ve (correctly) surmised, any suggestions that the engine switch would have a major impact on our development couldn’t be further from reality. Lumberyard is completely based on Cryengine, yet with a lot of improvements. As a consequence, we do not have to change the fundamental core engine at all which is why this change has had absolutely no effect on our development of Star Citizen. 
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Truga posted:Yeah, cloud is really loving cool if you're a server admin. Server virtualization really is cool as poo poo.
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Xaerael posted:Isn't that being made in Unity? Yup, that's Unity. They do have the advantage of working on STALKER before this (well, some of them), though 
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peter gabriel posted:Cloud computing is pretty easy to understand, it's Dropbox or sometimes Google Drive (Pro tip: they work faster if you yell "MESH! MESH!" while your grabby hands are swooping that whip around!) Anyway, congratulations to CIG for finally taking their game engine
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Samizdata posted:Yeah, but Lumberyard doesn't have all those years of custom CIG work, I mean, seriously, they rewrote about HALF of CryEngine. And it only took a couple of the engineers a day or so to port those changes... Wait. What? That's all bullshit. As much as their terribly open development not telling you about the engine change a year ago and it only taking two or some mandays to port the changes over. Which sort of makes you wonder what they have been doing with the rest of the time. I got into this argument with someone on another forum who told me it was because big long complicated business deals take a long time to work out with all the lawyers and offers/counter offers. I replied with this, http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/12/24/star-citizen-has-changed-game-engines quote:I've had a response from CIG director of communications, David Swofford, to say that the relationship between CIG and Amazon is that of them being a regular licensee of Amazon's technology. Guess it took 11 months and 28 days to figure out a cool email address they would use in the signup process
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Regrettable posted:They paid Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, Mark Hamill, and some other actors to mocap their parts in the game multiple times because they kept loving up. Money well spent I guess. --edit: Also, I'm not entirely sure why those idiots consider SC the most openly developed game. I've been with Project CARS and now part two, and granted, the signup time was limited to a couple of weeks, but for a small advance (I put 100€ in PC1, got 300€ out), I get daily change logs, developer reports and daily builds. I don't see people paying a couple of grands for JPEG ships getting anything the like in return. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Gary Oldman. Quite spreading FUD carebear. They work for free, remember?
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Combat Pretzel posted:Like it wouldn't have been economically more viable to mocap some kids on the street and have these guys just voice over it? If they did that, how could Chris Roberts, cinematic visionary and maestro, play out his Hollywood dreams albeit being exiled to Hollywood purgatory due to pissing Kevin Costner off?
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