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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Hillary Clinton was a bad canidate because she surrounded herself with idiots and had awful message control. It wasn't that being a dumpy nerd killed her chances Whereas Trump surrounded himself with, uh Totally not dumpy #you'refired
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Majorian posted:Big part of why Sanders lost, OP. Sanders never had a chance to win. He was trying to overcome 20+ years of democratic messaging that was oriented around the Clintons being the figurehead of the party, where he himself was relatively a nobody. As you yourself said, he far outperformed his expectations. Maybe the focus on the economy was the reason why.
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Volkerball posted:Sanders never had a chance to win. He was trying to overcome 20+ years of democratic messaging that was oriented around the Clintons being the figurehead of the party, where he himself was relatively a nobody. As you yourself said, he far outperformed his expectations. Maybe the focus on the economy was the reason why. It was, my point is just that there's a potential to overcorrect. The Dems still need to have a broad coalition of idpol voters and economic justice voters, and it's a tough balancing act. But I think we're all pretty much on the same page tbh.
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syscall girl posted:Whereas Trump surrounded himself with, uh Trump surrounded himself with hot white chicks
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Rexicon1 posted:Trump surrounded himself with hot white chicks Ehhhh...
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paranoid randroid posted:cool lets have a shrieking primary slapfight itt too, i love it i loving love all the hyperventilating and rending of garments
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Rexicon1 posted:Trump surrounded himself with hot white chicks https://www.russiancupid.com/en/women/russia/brides/relocate/willing-to-relocate-to-another-country 
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Majorian posted:It was, my point is just that there's a potential to overcorrect. The Dems still need to have a broad coalition of idpol voters and economic justice voters, and it's a tough balancing act. But I think we're all pretty much on the same page tbh. Yeah, I'm not that far off from what you're saying. I don't know that Bernie focused "too much," on economics, but either way, when the conversation drifted towards something that wasn't economics, he either displayed not much more than surface knowledge of the subject, or struggled to make himself appear as though he knew what he was talking about. His heart was certainly in the right place, but he had major blind spots as a candidate. TBH, the fact that the Dems chosen heir struggled so much against him was really ominous for her chances in the general. He's not much more than a rough draft of the direction the Dems, and the country, need to go.
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We're still paying the principal on Scalia but we no longer live in a world where that matters. Debt is evil.
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paranoid randroid posted:cool lets have a shrieking primary slapfight itt too, i love it i loving love all the hyperventilating and rending of garments its some real boring, miserable poo poo
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Dec 27, 2016 20:40
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Shbobdb posted:We're still paying the principal on Scalia but we no longer live in a world where that matters. Scalia being dead is the best/worst thing Trump will appoint Satan to his slot and the dark lord won't be able to fill his shoes
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idk what happened dadchat, i used to like posting here edit: maybe that was my mistake, all along...
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Shbobdb posted:We're still paying the principal on Scalia but we no longer live in a world where that matters. Debt matters because faaaaaaaart
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Volkerball posted:Sanders never had a chance to win. He was trying to overcome 20+ years of democratic messaging that was oriented around the Clintons being the figurehead of the party, where he himself was relatively a nobody. As you yourself said, he far outperformed his expectations. Maybe the focus on the economy was the reason why. Majorian posted:It was, my point is just that there's a potential to overcorrect. The Dems still need to have a broad coalition of idpol voters and economic justice voters, and it's a tough balancing act. But I think we're all pretty much on the same page tbh. golly I wonder why that is
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syscall girl posted:Scalia being dead is the best/worst thing Well duh not with hooves
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Chelb posted:idk what happened dadchat, i used to like posting here Dadchat, 2016s final victim
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Gin and Juche posted:Dadchat, 2016s final victim It was dead before Carrie Fisher, nice try.
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all the bad hillarybros ran off to slack in shame. dadchat is hitting its peak now
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Volkerball posted:all the bad hillarybros ran off to slack in shame. dadchat is hitting its peak now can it, crackerball
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Volkerball posted:all the bad hillarybros ran off to slack in shame. dadchat is hitting its peak now its a kind of shame, all right
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Volkerball posted:all the bad hillarybros ran off to slack in shame. dadchat is hitting its peak now they actually have a private slack channel? lol
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 especially considering maori are treated quite well compared to most aboriginal peoples, at least that's the impression i was under
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icantfindaname posted:they actually have a private slack channel? lol its rather public, really, except for volkerball, who is banned from it Volkerball posted:all the bad hillarybros ran off to slack in shame. dadchat is hitting its peak now nice to see he's still pissy about it though
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Chelb posted:its rather public, really, except for volkerball, who is banned from it can you please stop getting trolled constantly
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2017 exmarx posted:can you please stop getting trolled constantly ok
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Chelb posted:its rather public, really, except for volkerball, who is banned from it  What did he do?
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Chelb posted:its rather public, really, except for volkerball, who is banned from it i'm not banned from it lol.
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Volkerball posted:i'm not banned from it lol. you have to take a loyalty oath to Bashar the Lion to get in
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Chelb posted:its rather public, really, except for volkerball, who is banned from it
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Silvers being salty that "unranked" Kobold dude topped the scoreboard 1v3'd the pistol round.  Inactivity deranks are basically subsidized trolling.
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icantfindaname posted:
least worst maybe. everything in the article is true, the israeli right is pretty good at appropriating woke terminology to suit its own ends
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Randler posted:Silvers being salty that "unranked" Kobold dude topped the scoreboard 1v3'd the pistol round. 
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2017 exmarx posted:least worst maybe. everything in the article is true, the israeli right is pretty good at appropriating woke terminology to suit its own ends Did New Zealand ever try something similiar to the Australian attempts to "civilize" the indigenuous populations by force-breeding them with white people?
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Badger of Basra posted:What did Obama offer that Hillary didn't besides being a stronger candidate better timing and lying a bunch the candidate problem is a big one, but focusing on that alone is a bad idea, because there have been exactly two victorious Democratic presidential candidates in the last thirty years, and the GOP is holding record amounts of power at the state and local levels it's not enough to just find a really good presidential candidate. the party as a whole is in serious trouble and needs fundamental changes to its messaging and strategy. focusing too much on really good campaigners like Obama ended up just masking the party's decline, because instead of recognizing that they won solely on the strength of the winner's campaigning skills in spite of the Democratic Party's flaws, they took it as a sign that everything was okay and there were no problems lingering in the wings
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I can't imagine how it would look if I was actually competent at the game instead of barely scraping at the median.
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Randler posted:Did New Zealand ever try something similiar to the Australian attempts to "civilize" the indigenuous populations by force-breeding them with white people? i don't know if that ever happened (in australia either), but stolen generations certainly did
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Main Paineframe posted:better timing and lying a bunch Wellll...being better at lying, more like. quote:the candidate problem is a big one, but focusing on that alone is a bad idea, because there have been exactly two victorious Democratic presidential candidates in the last thirty years, and the GOP is holding record amounts of power at the state and local levels 
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Randler posted:Did New Zealand ever try something similiar to the Australian attempts to "civilize" the indigenuous populations by force-breeding them with white people? If you ever want to read some horror stories on treatment of indigenous people, have a look at Canada. We have done some horrible loving things here.  e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlight_tours
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Randler posted:I can't imagine how it would look if I was actually competent at the game instead of barely scraping at the median.
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