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r u ready to WALK posted:FYI that long faced frog is Barnacle Jim  talking moose is the one thing that could make a yosmac better this is good. very very good.
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Dec 27, 2016 21:44
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A small box arrived it had some panda style coasters in it. thanks again vallyard!
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Dec 27, 2016 21:51
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Annual Gift Panda posted:A small box arrived 
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Dec 27, 2016 21:59
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Dec 27, 2016 22:12
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CrazyLittle posted:Santees remaining to post their gifts: No gifts for me yet. Also  Tori.Mine apparently has received their gifts but has never posted anything about it?
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Dec 27, 2016 22:43
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OSI bean dip posted:Mine apparently has received their gifts but has never posted anything about it? I do have a few tracking numbers, so the list above isn't "name and shame" yet. several of them got their gifts but just haven't posted yet.
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Dec 27, 2016 22:52
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OSI bean dip posted:No gifts for me yet. also yours should arrive today?
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CrazyLittle posted:Santees remaining to post their gifts: geez I just got home! a package was awaiting me  ...  
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Dec 27, 2016 23:09
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CrazyLittle posted:also yours should arrive today? Just awaiting Canada Post to e-mail me about a package being delivered.
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Symbolic Butt posted:geez I just got home! hahahah yes! puzzle box 2 mystery thread time!
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Dec 27, 2016 23:35
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I got the digital album and a physical one will come in feb. I haven't received anything else yet. I'm not even sure I should be expecting anything else
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Dec 27, 2016 23:58
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anthonypants posted:i'm also not sure if i should be expecting anything else, but i don't want to make my santa feel bad for not demonstrably spending a ton of money or effort on a gift for me. besides, anthonypants fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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anthonypants posted:i'm also not sure if i should be expecting anything else, but i don't want to make my santa feel bad for not demonstrably spending a ton of money or effort on a gift for me. besides, Well, mine asked if I'm still around on Christmas eve. So, who nows.
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Dec 28, 2016 00:08
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holy smokes kuvo
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I think this is a game machine of some sort? There's an SD card in it. !!!!! holy poo poo my fuckin middle/high school years (which uhhh this is weird: I have distinct memories of loving around with my GP2X in middle school, but I left it in early 2005, and the GP2X didn't come out until november 2005 in south korea according to wikipedia?) I asked for one of these for my birthday in like 2005? can't remember http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/gp2x.cgi here's your software archive http://wiki.gp2x.org/ the wiki seems to have rotted a little but it still exists and all the info's there I recommend sqdef, it's an extremely solid tower defense game. you'll want some high-powered rechargable AAs.
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ah yes I remember being jealous of the GP2X because, unlike my Sharp Zaurus, it could load neo geo roms that were larger than 10mb in size
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Dec 28, 2016 01:28
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lots of pro gifts this year ! i never had a gp2x but in high school i had an original GP32 i got from liksang
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Dec 28, 2016 01:41
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Tracking says my package was delivered today 
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I powered on the yosbook it powered right on, blew up my ears with the chime, and commenced to booting  like ten full minutes later:  IT LIVES (also, awesome yosmac icon minifoo) and about another full minute after that the text editor popped open automatically  hells yeah this owns, time to get some gaming in  Oregon Trail took about a minute or two to mount the image then fired right up. I played for a good 25 minutes and had made it almost halfway to oregon when  welp lol @ "an application crashed. better restart your entire computer just in case" SOON: I will hook up the scsi cd rom and play me some myst burning swine fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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Dec 28, 2016 03:33
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lol the yospos artwork book also misattributes my quote to someone else
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Dec 28, 2016 04:01
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i may have been drunk while making it, sorry about that
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Dec 28, 2016 04:10
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the more likely answer is that i copy pasted that template around and prob forgot to change it
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Dec 28, 2016 04:11
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i liked it better when you were drunk
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Dec 28, 2016 04:42
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man i want a copy of that art book but i'm not paying $60 for it. too bad that code only works for the person who uploaded it 
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Dec 28, 2016 05:20
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Migishu posted:man i want a copy of that art book but i'm not paying $60 for it. too bad that code only works for the person who uploaded it set up a paypal exchange or something
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CrazyLittle posted:Santees remaining to post their gifts: has mine been shipped a long time ago but was actually stolen off my door step 
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:I got the digital album and a physical one will come in feb. I haven't received anything else yet. I'm not even sure I should be expecting anything else  an important message from you are santa: I am doing my level best to balance family responsibilities, my brother getting sick and me having to go do his shopping for him, and being able to get into my storage unit to retrieve your items. Here's a hint: one of them is beige and another is a characteristic shade of purple or teal.
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Dec 28, 2016 05:58
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enjoy your SGI machine optimus
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Jimmy Carter posted:has mine been shipped a long time ago but was actually stolen off my door step pm sent
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eschaton posted:I just got what I think is the lil sumpin and it's sweet! pics soon so on or about the 23rd I got a lil sumpin, I've was busy and then sick so I didn't get around to unboxing it  what's in the box, besides an envelope?  oh shiiiii  iiiiiit thanks! despite being such a fanboy that I've worked at the sausage factory for ages, I've never actually had anything signed by Woz, even an Apple ][gs, so this is quite cool plus I could use it with a ][gs bonus: new additions Bean (foreground) and Froggey (leaving frame) were momentarily intrigued by the packaging  however, being just shy of six months old, it didn't hold their interest for long D'Anna, acting the matriarch, just sat back and let the kittens check it out
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repost that im stuck w racists in MA but i got un-labelled gifts so dont ban my satna
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Box three arrived!  it's authentic cisco     The gin is incredibly good. It's several times more enjoyable to drink than the three other liquors I've tried combined (fireball, captain morgan white rum, fireball with crystalized ginger dumped in it and left for three years, bulleit bourbon). Here's my recipe for a hosed Up Tom Collins: 1. Pour the following into a measuring cup:
3. Pour into water glass (no ice because there are no ice cube trays here, what the gently caress) 4. Fill water glass most of the way up with soda water 5. Hello. I’m Tom Collins, famous for typing more words than anyone wants to read. Today marks ten years of my time here, and I’d like to take a moment to reflect on it. I’ve never been a good one for memories of ‘forum events’, so this isn’t going to be a retrospective of SA forums history. Really, that wouldn’t be interesting if you hadn’t been there, anyway. Who gives a gently caress who banned whom in 2003, or what fat goon flew to wherever to marry some other fat goon? Sure, I remember stories of things that happened around here, but really until the creation of YOSPOS, I was just another goon. I had a very low postcount for my time here and no real recognition from any other posters. I used to be known as “Death Incarnate” – the name seemed cool when I was 14, but it got old fast. Instead, it’s going to be my observations on forums themselves after ten years of posting on SA and other forums, and why I still choose to read and post here more than anywhere else. I'm crossposting it in YOSPOS and GBS to get two different perspectives on the issue. Thanks for reading. 6. Moderation is crucial. Moderation is the backbone of a forum. Forums with weak moderation become rife with NWS content (where it isn’t wanted), inappropriate or lovely threads, spam, and other crap that makes the forum useless. Overly strong moderation leads to a culture of fear, because inevitably it leads to random bannings that are based on drama between users rather than on forum rules. In the end, you need to have a core group of mods that are actually a little bit distanced from the posters, who can interpret the rules of each subforum correctly – with just enough “wiggle room” to allow good posters to get away with bending the rules, and to allow poo poo posters to be banned even if they haven’t outright broken one. They can’t fraternize with the posters too much, or they’ll start playing favourites, a surefire recipe for drama. SA has done reasonably well on this count. I’m not going to name any names, but generally I’ve found the moderation here to be sane, and to deal with drama amongst themselves in an appropriate (and usually hidden) fashion. I don’t want this to be seen as me sucking up, so don’t take it that way – but note that I recognize SA as having had fairly consistent and balanced moderation for a decade, which most other forums can’t say. 7. Monetization of posters is just as crucial. Forums are expensive to run. Server hardware and service contracts aren’t cheap; bandwidth isn’t cheap; administrative staff isn’t cheap; and when it’s something that takes enough of your time to be your fulltime job, it also needs to pay the bills, which isn’t cheap either. The king needs his tax. Many forums resort to whiny donation drives, or switch to subscription models to keep the place running. I registered back when the forums were free, when the glory of the Dot Com era was still a warm enough memory that people thought it would be possible to support something of this size purely on advertising. It’s not, though. Setting a basic price point on an account accomplishes two goals: it turns people into paying customers right from the start, so that they value their account. It also keeps out people who would just register new accounts every day, and thereby makes banning an actual punishment – you’re out your ten-dollar “investment”. The further monetization, through platinum accounts, avatars, and the like, is good in that it offers users the choice of donating further for goods that have perceived value but cost the forums nothing to give. Letting people buy gifts – or insults – for other people turns the act of giving the forums money into an actual tool for social interaction, which is valuable. The new cancer thing, well, people’s opinions are mixed on that. All I can say is that if it’s needed to keep the place running, and the admins feel it’s a good method for upping the quality of posts, then it’s a valid experiment. We’ll just have to watch and see how it goes. I was more in favour at first, but as of late it’s just encouraging RFA losers to come and post in good forums and poo poo the place up, which is the opposite of the intended purpose. I’m just glad that this isn’t the kind of place where every other month a huge “DONATE!!!” sticky thread appears, and the same few people fling a few bucks at it each time to keep it going. Those methods aren’t sustainable over time. 8. Being a source of memes is fun, but it’s also debilitating. The first big meme that SA launched (even though we didn’t actually start it) was All Your Base. SA always had a good group of photoshoppers, and PS threads were probably some of the funniest and best threads in the early days of the forums. AYB actually got some real-world fame, and since then we’ve always had a bit of a hand in perpetuating Internet memes. Forum-specific memes are good because they allow new posters, once they’ve got a handle on the current memes, to contribute in a fashion that ‘fits in’ with established posters. On the other hand, it’s pretty annoying for a new person who nobody’s heard of to show up on a thread and post a loving fiestacat. Ultimately, they get run into the ground, and the best thing for everyone to do is to recognize when that happens and move on before it becomes too annoying. Producing the really sticky sorts of memes that spread around the Internet today requires a faster-paced discussion medium than SA offers, however. When Moot left SA (well, whatever happened) and created 4Chan, he spawned a discussion format more conducive to making memes than SA is. If memes are made by throwing poo poo against the wall to see if it sticks, /b/ has the process down. Really, it’s probably for the best that we’re not actively trying to be a source of memes; they get overplayed far too quickly to really be much fun. What lasts longer is having a culture of people that run with things – if someone posts a photoshop thread, having people around that want to run with the idea rather than shouting it down leads to a much more funny and enjoyable forum. Thing is, it’s always going to be a lot easier to shout someone else’s attempts at humour down – heckling, essentially – than it is to actually go and produce your own attempts. When you do produce your own, you’re also running the risk of having others heckle you, so it can be a little daunting to try. A healthy balance of heckling and running with it is essential to maintain quality. 9. Specialized subforums are a mixed bag. A long, long time ago, there were far fewer forums than there are today. I’m not going to give you a grand history lesson of what forums were first, mostly because I don’t really remember what order they all came in. But what’s important to note is that over time, the forums have become more and more “organized”. GBS used to be full of posts on every subject – from e/n to cars to computers to Photoshop to stories of people’s lives to short fiction to general hilarity. I know it’s a tired old thing to say that “GBS used to be better”, but…. GBS used to be better. For me, it was the forum of choice for perhaps six of my ten years. I’d pop over to SH/SC or AI ever so often, but for a long time GBS had the humour and the freshness that made SA what it is. Over time, though, things were broken out of GBS. There were too many car threads, so AI was created. Too many E/N threads, so E/N was created. And as each of these categories of posts was removed from GBS, you ended up with less material that was actually appropriate for GBS. What’s left? Posts based on news, subject-specific megathreads that are too small to sustain their own subforum, the occasional Photoshop thread. It’s not terrible. It’s as good as the general boards of most other forums are. But it’s not what it once was, and I’ll miss the idealized GBS of my memory. On the flip side of the coin, the subforums can be amazing. For example, AI is a bastion of good car advice, the hardest kind to find on the internet. They’re a great, close knit yet welcoming community. YOSPOS, my present home, is a fun community of FYAD-Lite shitposting that couldn’t really exist inside of any other forum. You can’t have that without breaking out of GBS, but once you break it out, you can’t have those posters, those jokes, and that spirit in GBS any more. Maybe it’s inevitable that as the place grows, GBS slowly becomes a shell of what it once was. That’s fair, and really we should be glad that it’s still as relatively decent as it is… though sometimes the comments in there are pretty loving atrocious. We’ll get into that later. 10. Regdate bias is inevitable, but it’s pretty loving retarded. It doesn’t really matter how long someone’s been around once the range is as long as it is here – it only matters that they’ve been around, lurking, for at least six months so they have the lay of the land. After that point, the gloves are off, and cool people will be recognized for being cool (and losers for being losers). I’m sure I’ve tried to get respect for my regdate in the past, but it’s a misguided, weak attempt at an argument from authority. Just because someone’s older or been around a forum for longer doesn’t mean they know anything, or that they’re cool in any way. That has to be earned, by posting well and by making friends in the community. You can do that in two weeks if you’re good enough at it. However, I gotta say, most of the ‘00s and ‘01s who have stuck around are pretty cool characters. There can’t be that many of us left. Cheers to those guys. 11. Don’t poo poo where you eat: piracy and porn are awesome, but it’s clear they had to go. So there’s a seldom mentioned part of the forums history: DPPH, NMP3s, and the Bittorrent Barnyard. You see, once upon a time, this place was a lot more liberal concerning file sharing than it is now. The porn forum, Don’t Post Porn Here, was first (back then it was mostly picture sets, none of these fancy movies!), and the music forum No MP3s Here followed. They were both quality forums with good posts, and the culture of file sharing on here was very condoned as long as it didn’t extend to software of any kind. The Bittorrent Barnyard followed suit, utilizing external trackers but officially permitted for the purposes of sharing music, movies, and TV. Not to get into any of the drama of it, but ultimately the decision was made that they had to go. I believe it was one of the wiser decisions the forums ever made, despite the fact that those subforums were a huge draw for new members. Keeping them around would have led to more drama and legal headaches than anyone would have wanted to deal with. Luckily, those forums and the communities in them have been completely and utterly destroyed without a trace, so we don’t have to worry about them anymore. I think that any forum that wants to have quality discussion and humour does need to focus on those subjects, and avoid trying to be all things to all people. The influx of members onto SA who were here just for the file sharing forums resulted in tons of idiots who had clearly never used a forum before and were looking for some kind of Napster-like experience, leading to a lower quality posting experience for everyone else. Some of them have no doubt evolved into decent posters over time, and the rest have left or been banned. All in all, it was fun while it lasted. 12. Drama doesn’t profit anyone. There’s a tendency for many humans in social interactions to blow misunderstandings out of proportion. Online, we lose the benefits of vocal intonation, facial expressions, and body language, which leads to a language barrier that can’t be crossed without either getting really wordy and really honest, or getting really good at reading between the lines. Realistically, people are bad at both of those. Couple the tendency to go overboard with the lack of normal social graces caused by everyone being faceless behind their computers, and you can have a festering pool of flamewars and shitposting. Moderation can solve this, but only if the moderators are inhuman enough to be able to do it without rising to the trolls and their flamebait. It’s important for people to take a step back before plunging headlong into some drama with their ill-informed ideas. Usually, people get this idea that they’ll be rushing to the rescue of a thread, like a well-read bouncer at a bar separating two combatants and solving their quarrel at the same time. In practice, they just stoke the fire and turn a two-way argument into a three way one, and perpetuate the problem. I’m all for honest and in-depth discussion of an issue, but it’s crucial that people avoid ridiculous interpersonal arguments that don’t accomplish anything. 13. The Goon Stereotype isn’t true. The Goon Stereotype is a 23-year-old fat white American male with poor hair, worse hygiene, and no sense of style. He has some form of autistic-spectrum disorder, possibly self identifying as Aspergers. He likes Anime, bad electronic music, and hacked-together electronics. He has no social skills, is a virgin, and masturbates three times a day to the worst pornography imaginable while eating Cheetos. He works a poo poo job, drives a poo poo car, and thinks he’s better than everyone else in the world. Those goons exist. There’s probably hundreds of them. But most of us are just… people. A slice of society; there are hot people on here and horrible people, rich and poor, young and old. If anything, it’s far more diverse than anyone realizes, though understandably with a bias towards white or whitewashed Americans who are the target demographic. It’s bad for us to have such a negative image of the average poster, because it can encourage people who don’t fit the stereotype to act as though everyone else is beneath them. Really, what does it matter who a person is in the “real world”, compared to what they post online? It would be better for us to judge more on a person’s projected character than on the insights it gives us to their real life, because ultimately they’re going to play the part they wish they could play every day but aren’t able to due to social inequalities. I almost consider it similar to wearing a uniform in school – it limits personal expression, but it puts people on a level footing. We’re all wearing the Goon Uniform, like it or not; so it might be a good idea to stop assuming the uniform’s so terrible. 14. Getting “in” with a crowd of posters is actually really easy. This one could have been called something like “IRC and forums go hand in hand”, because it’s true. An IRC channel for a subforum is like the behind-the-scenes spine that holds the thing together. Communities can form on forums themselves without anything else, sure, but the asynchronous form of post-wait-read-post doesn’t lend itself to human interaction in the same way that a real, synchronous chat like IRC does. For forums that aren’t completely serious, like YOSPOS, people on IRC are generally ‘out of character’ compared to their forums selves. It’s almost like as though the forum itself is some sort of game, and the IRC channel is the discussion between people playing the game – one level more removed from the action of posting. You can easily have conversations with other people about themselves, and get to know them, and by doing so become part of the community in a way that you really can’t just by posting. If you want to get “in” on a community, all it takes is posting, getting to know people, and getting into the IRC in order to really meet the different movers and shakers in the community that give it its particular character. Otherwise, you’ll only ever see the surface level that’s presented on the forums, and you’ll miss a lot of the undertext. However, the forums have always traditionally had some level of bias against the corresponding IRC channels. This is probably because the IRC channels have never been official, and so they aren’t run and moderated by the same crew as the forums – leading to an alternate set of administrative types that have no official ties to the forums. Maybe there’s fear of “IRC cabals” or something, who knows. So far, my experience has been very benign, and I believe that a combination of realtime and asynchronous communication leads to a stronger community. One caveat to this: you have to actually be a decent, likable person for this to work. If you're as much of an rear end in a top hat on IRC as you are on the forums, it's not going to make a bit of difference. 15. Caring and putting work into a post shouldn’t be shunned. Last but not least. This is sort of a personal sticking point for me, and it’s sure as hell not SA-specific but the problem’s rampant here too. I can understand not wanting to read some long rant or tirade that someone’s bashed out, especially if it’s formatted badly or if during your initial skim it seems uninformed or stupid. However, it’s important that we recognize when people put in effort, and respond to them appropriately. If they’re stupid – show them why they’re stupid, in as much detail as is needed. If they’re right – show them you’ve read it, and that you appreciate it. It’s not always appropriate in every forum, but certainly it’s good to have people around that are willing to put some level of effort into things. We may never get a Goon Project off the ground, but as long as people keep putting effort into making quality posts, this place will always be strong. Like I said earlier, it’s always a lot easier to shout something down than it is to contribute to it… but if that’s all anyone ever does, there won’t be any reason for people to try anymore. So that’s it, ten years of watching people post. We’re doing well. Keep doing well and I’ll be sure to look back on this in 2020. I’m looking forward to it. atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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anthonypants posted:ok so apparently my santa sent me a package via usps which was delivered on friday, according to a tracking number crazylittle pm'd me, but i left on friday morning to visit family and just returned to town tonight. and usps doesn't have any alerting/redirecting like ups/fedex does so i can't get email alerts when a suspicious package is arriving, or to tell them to hold it at the post office instead. i haven't had any issues with people stealing packages before so i'm sure it's fine and i'll find out in a few hours and post pictures  awwwww and it's a game for girls, yuck  i'll have to check my mailbox for other things but i literally just got home and i am tired and i would like to sleep thank you duckfarts!!!!
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Cat Face Joe posted:
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eschaton posted:oh shiiiii whaaaaat I didn't even know this was a thing. that's awesome. you can even send in *stuff* to have him sign but i doubt that would have worked in the yosmas timeframe bump_fn posted:repost that im stuck w racists in MA but i got un-labelled gifts so dont ban my satna yup your santa's safe. atomicthumbs posted:Here's my recipe for a hosed Up Tom Collins: 
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