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The force awakens was all about making a "real" star war movie again and that's basically it. It was devoid of the spark of genius that Lucas and friends brought to the original and it felt like an expensive fan film. There were some neat ideas in there but most of it was wasted. Also the big eye alien was weird and I hope whatever gross ugly voice actor played her falls in a spike pit
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There's a lot of cool poo poo in the Art of the Force Awakens book that never made it into the movie because Disney and JJ were too lazy \ scared to do anything new or interesting Instead, let's just have X-Wings, TIE Fighters, Stormtroopers, Han, Chewie, the Falcon, Not-Tatooine, Not-Hoth, Not-Yoda, Not-The Empire, Not-Darth Vader, Not-The Death Star and Girl Luke That should hit all the checkmarks people want, right? Ok fine, we'll begrudingly put in a black Stormtrooper with a heart of gold and a lightsaber with a cross guard because Bob insisted we don't just do a straight up remake GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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Gammatron 64 posted:I liked Rogue One and I still like RLM even though I disagree with them. After watching it this is kinda how I feel. It was... OK. OK enough to actually go see in a theater? Well how much do you care about The Star Wars or enjoy Passable Action Movies? Dark Father was in the movie pretty much just so they could do that hallway scene but that doesn't make it not a badass scene even though they stuck in that awful pun earlier oh god that was awful I'm conflicted
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Monkey Fracas posted:After watching it this is kinda how I feel. It was... OK. OK enough to actually go see in a theater? Well how much do you care about The Star Wars or enjoy Passable Action Movies? I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate! Rogue One really feels like a movie made by total Star Wars nerds for Star Wars nerds and not really for anyone else. I'm okay with this though, as I'm a huge Star Wars nerd. It really feels like it's one of the hundreds of somewhat passable Star Wars comics given a huge budget and made into a movie. In fact, it's probably a bit better than the average Star Wars tie-in fiction, because since the mid '90's they've churned out so many Star Wars books and comics that any quality control became nearly non-existent. So like, if you were a kid like me who used to read the Star Wars Essential Guide to whatever when you were sitting on the toilet all the time then Rogue One is for you. But I'm a spergy loser and if you're not and don't know or care who Mon Mothma or Bail Organa are, it's not for you
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Dec 27, 2016 21:29
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force awakens was fun you drat weirdos
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oohhboy posted:Many Bothans died to bring us this information. This is not the movie you are looking for. You fell into the same trap wanting a different film instead of grading the film as is. I remember when this was getting bandied about in cinema discusso and it made me meltdown there plz don't make me go critical again!!!!! There is nothing wrong with wanting a different film and grading it against the thing you would have liked.
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A friend of mine joked that the Force Awakens is the Star Wars movie for dirty casuals and Rogue One is the Star Wars movie for basement-dwelling sperglords, but the thing is, that's actually kinda true lol Like, dude, while watching TFA I was like "Man, I'm disappointed there aren't any TIE Interceptors or capital ships in this. ...poo poo, this might be why I haven't gotten laid in like 10 years" I'm like a wisened sage full of life experience. Look at my life and use it as an example for what not to do. Much like Rich Evans
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I didn't like the massive plot holes and really bad plot in TFA and I didn't like the total lack of interesting characters and a lot of odd "we have a kinda interesting new idea but we're going to play it so safe as to make it useless" writing choices. It almost felt like I was watching the theatrical release on Alien 3, as if all the character development and entire key plots were edited out of the movie.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Rogue One really feels like a movie made by total Star Wars nerds for Star Wars nerds and not really for anyone else. I'm okay with this though, as I'm a huge Star Wars nerd. I've never been a Star Wars nerd and I loved it. *shrug* And two of the friends that I saw it with haven't even seen The Force Awakens yet, and they both liked it too. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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Baronjutter posted:I didn't like the massive plot holes and really bad plot in TFA and I didn't like the total lack of interesting characters and a lot of odd "we have a kinda interesting new idea but we're going to play it so safe as to make it useless" writing choices. It almost felt like I was watching the theatrical release on Alien 3, as if all the character development and entire key plots were edited out of the movie. Hell, they could have been. I'm really curious to see the director's cut of Rogue One and see how different it is. What's kinda funny \ weird is that Rogue One has what TFA was lacking and visa versa. If only you could merge them together, you could have one really good movie instead of two mediocre ones. It's really kind of telling too, because all over you're finding people "picking a side" and defending one movie and trashing the other. The two movies really are like total opposites and both provide part of what's great about Star Wars without ever getting the whole thing, which is why you have team TFA and team R1 because different people want different poo poo outta Star Wars GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Dec 27, 2016 |
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I wish that the X-Wings and Tie Fighters in The Force Awkens had looked different from the original X-Wings and Tie Fighters.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I wish that the X-Wings and Tie Fighters in The Force Awkens had looked different from the original X-Wings and Tie Fighters. I thought the X-Wings were different? Didn't they have six wings instead of four?
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Like yeah R1 feels like an Expanded Universe movie made for Big Nerds but only because there's really not a whole lot else going on with it but "it is a mediocre-to-okay action movie wearing a Star Wars t-shirt"; like they thought that the fact that it was a Star Wars movie would just kinda carry it (they were right) Like imagine for a minute that you do not give one hot poo poo about Star Wars- does the movie hold up in this context? I would say yes but that it's not particularly impressive. So how many "Just OK" movies can they crank out and stamp STAR WARS TM on them before people get sick of it? Not saying I didn't have a good time watching it or that the SW elements did nothing for me (as I am a Bigtime Dork) but it seems like maybe they can't do this forever
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WampaLord posted:I thought the X-Wings were different? Didn't they have six wings instead of four? The X-wings in the prequesl had 6 s-foils(or as you call them, "wings"). The X-wIngs in both the originals and TFA had 4
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WampaLord posted:I thought the X-Wings were different? Didn't they have six wings instead of four? The X-Wings in TFA were slightly different and had different engines and wings that were kinda like scissors. The TIE Fighters were literally just a palette swap
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Dec 27, 2016 22:21
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I liked the little atmospheric garrison tie fighters, those were cute.
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I thought the planet in TFA was Tatooine. Because it would have been like poetry, it rhymed.
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Monkey Fracas posted:After watching it this is kinda how I feel. It was... OK. OK enough to actually go see in a theater? Well how much do you care about The Star Wars or enjoy Passable Action Movies? Black Papa
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I nearly just stood up and was done when it came to that "don't choke on your ambition" scene holy poo poo that was like sub fan-film quality writing.
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Dec 27, 2016 23:47
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I liked it but I was really just looking for Dark Forces: The Movie and that's what I got, so, this idiot nerd is happy.
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Heaps of Sheeps posted:I liked it but I was really just looking for Dark Forces: The Movie and that's what I got, so, this idiot nerd is happy. Disney killed Kyle Katarn
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FuturePastNow posted:Disney killed Kyle Katarn That's not what I heard. I heard Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade died heroically in a suicide mission to destroy the EU.
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reignofevil posted:I remember when this was getting bandied about in cinema discusso and it made me meltdown there plz don't make me go critical again!!!!! You still have to keep it inside the boundaries of what the film is. This is a war film, comparing it to a non-existent heist film is a non-starter. Imagine Saving private Ryan being compared something that doesn't exists yet in a genera that has nothing to do with it is silly. What that tell me is that you walked into the wrong movie with expectations that had nothing to do with what happened. What you can compare to other films is things like the cinematography, the use of colour and light, individual similar scenes, but not completely dissimilar movies whole sale or movies that doesn't exist. For example you can compare Commando with to Predator or Rambo 2/3 but not Rambo 1 but you can compare Rambo one to 2/3 and point out how dissimilar they are within the same franchise/series. You will get your heist/spy film down the line with those many Bothans, but R1 was never, ever meant to be it and was never sold as one. FuturePastNow posted:Disney killed Kyle Katarn I think they also killed the Hack Fraud Dash Rendar. Bye Carrie Fisher, another victim of 2016. Rest well knowing millions of nerds cried out and weep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuf9dM_LgCs
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That blue skinned bastard Thrawn got away, though. Always three steps ahead.
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oohhboy posted:You still have to keep it inside the boundaries of what the film is. This is a war film, comparing it to a non-existent heist film is a non-starter. Imagine Saving private Ryan being compared something that doesn't exists yet in a genera that has nothing to do with it is silly. What that tell me is that you walked into the wrong movie with expectations that had nothing to do with what happened. Yeah, RLM talking about a non-existent heist movie in the vein of Ocean's Eleven made me kind of raise an eyebrow because... that's not what it was, or was even advertised as? A friend of mine (who hated Rogue One and said it was more of a remake of ANH than TFA which is completely nonsensical) once got really mad at the movie Don't Breathe. This movie was advertised as a film where a blind man with daredevil powers murders a bunch of teenagers and we all knew this was what it was going to be going in to it, but he was mad that the killer was in fact blind and there wasn't some twist that he wasn't. DUDE, THEY TOLD YOU HE WAS BLIND BEFORE YOU EVEN SAW THE MOVIE AND IT WAS ITS drat SELLING POINT, THE gently caress DO YOU WANT It's like going to a restaurant and you order a pizza that has anchovies on it. The waiter is like "you know, there's anchovies on this, right?" and you're like "yeah whatever" and order it anyway. Then it comes out and you're pissed off that there's anchovies on your pizza. Well, you got yourself to blame for that one numbnuts
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Baronjutter posted:I nearly just stood up and was done when it came to that "don't choke on your ambition" scene holy poo poo that was like sub fan-film quality writing. whoa thats a bad opinion there bro
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I found Rogue One kinda underwhelming and I barely remember half of it now. I also couldn't recall the names of most of the cast outside of Jyn if you put a gun to my head.
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Paladinus posted:Carrie Fisher has coked on her ambitions. You have failed us for the last time.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Yeah, RLM talking about a non-existent heist movie in the vein of Ocean's Eleven made me kind of raise an eyebrow because... that's not what it was, or was even advertised as? its just what they wished it had been
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Gammatron 64 posted:Yeah, RLM talking about a non-existent heist movie in the vein of Ocean's Eleven made me kind of raise an eyebrow because... that's not what it was, or was even advertised as?
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Paladinus posted:Carrie Fisher has coked on her ambitions. This has no right to be so funny. R1's Vadar scene was bad and not much better than Forest W being directed to "Suck air and waste time".
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Wall Balls posted:its just what they wished it had been The dumb thing about this sentiment is that they forgot that a heist movie is just about guaranteed. I imagine when they see the Bothans die they will be complaining there weren't tie fighters, x-wings and pew pew. Their review was wildly off base.
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The "choke on your ambitions" line was terrible and cringe-worthy and I bet that's one of the changes the Disney execs mandated in post I really want to see the original cut of this movie, but I'm sure the people who hate this movie would hate it even more as it would be even darker, have less humor and be too far removed from the tone of the main Star Wars movies
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Rogue One came off as "This is as risky as Disney would let us be". Like they sat in a board room negotiating what particular edgy plot points or turns were okay.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Pity they didn't negotiate the screenwriter's decision to make all the characters suck! The base archetypes there were interesting enough but we didn't get to know any of them so we didn't give a gently caress when the ending happens. There's the germ of an interesting movie there but it looks like it got murdered in editing/reshoots. Really, you could've gotten away with a 2 and a half/3 hour movie and spent the majority of it building the characters up for the gigantic action setpiece at the end. Like you don't get much of many characters in Saving Private Ryan but the first couple deaths are pretty heart wrenchingly awful. Whereas here? I was like, "uh, okay" and then the movie ended Fabricated fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Pity they didn't negotiate the screenwriter's decision to make all the characters suck! At least they were relatively normal people who were defined by their character and morals, not by how good they are at doing things or their power level.
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oohhboy posted:At least they were relatively normal people who were defined by their character and morals, not by how good they are at doing things or their power level. Like...why would this weasel-like kinda jumpy coward freighter pilot defect? What was he told or what did he see that caused a moral epiphany that made him do something that have seen him being dissected in a torture chamber?
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