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nickmeister posted:I'm in Taiwan. And I'M the student. But I don't compare American police "negatively" to China. I merely tell it like it is. Actually, I think a lot of Chinese can understand what it's like to have thugs with government authority loving with your life. Okay it is different in Actual And Superior China
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Sheep-Goats posted:I'm not about to claim that Asian people are effectively white in North America but white people like me consider them to be. And that's easily true for a lot of people who were born in America, grew up without strong bonds with their heritage. This easily happens to 3rd generations and beyond but can happen to first generations as well. It depends on their upbringing. You can find the rare case of some families growing up solely in china town and they retain their Chinese culture from some fossilized age. It's a interesting phenomenon but bringing back to this thread they tend to watch bad Chinese tv and god forbid have Rene Chang opinions. The great idea behind countries with an immigration policy is that "you can be just as x as everyone else". Unfortunately the execution is still a big work in progress. Luckily progress has been made and I have seen society being more pluralistic than before. My bar is pretty low and goony, she just needs to like playing video games
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Blistex posted:I'm wondering if it is because they are seen (in public opinion) as being successful and not involved in crime. I'm likely going to be moving to Alberta, so I'm hoping the redneck stereotype doesn't extend to outright racism. The worst my wife has gotten in Ontario is a few goony guys hitting on her with the opening line, "I really like Asian women", and one teen shouting, "me love you long time". (drat you Stanley Kubrick) I think this is more about the different types of crime committed. Less smash and grab or home invasions and more white collar crimes like fraud, underhanded contracts and exploiting edge case issues in the law. Less outrage. Let us English posted:I've met enough racists Kiwis to know this is bullshit. NZ had a white immigration policy just like Australia and it shows in demographics today. It's harder to spot racism when the minority population is smaller. I grew up in Montana and I never heard anyone say a racist comment about or towards black people in my years of living there. Does that mean Montanans aren't overtly racist like people in the south? No, it just means there's no black people to be racist towards. I bloody live here. I never said there wasn't institutional racism loving people over, I pointed out the inequalities aboriginals still suffer today and the lack of recognition or help to correct this. I said overt racism was low/er not that racism was. Do you know who shouted "Chink" at me over the years? Pacific islanders and Maori. I have no doubt at some point been screwed over by some racist of whatever colour, just not overt insults. My personal sample size obviously small and I might be lucky as the people I spend my time around are good people. When I walk into a shop I do not expect to be treated differently and nor am I outside from the odd person surprised by my perfectly natural English(It's ever so mildly racist but if you are letting something like this get to you you have bigger personal social issues to deal with). The funny thing is that some upstanding white people pointed out that these incidences is racist when I thought nothing of it before. I will not say this is the typical experience nor an outlier as I don't know. New Zealand is racist in many ways, but shouting go home you yellow fucks very, very low unless you're Winston Peters with his endless dog whistles. In some ways the government is scared at being labelled a racist when it comes to immigration policy which is racist. Our refugee quota is poo poo, we favour western countries and rich people. It is also racist against the native population and disproportionally impacts aboriginals as Chinese students buy their way into universities and housing pushing out everyone else out of the market. One of the few things we don't really have are illegal camps, but that is not from the lack of wanting such a thing. Our natural geography does not encourage such things and if we had the same inflow Australia has we would no doubt have them with all the attendant problems and awfulness.
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I like you guys trying to be nice and I'm trying to be nice too. I'm glad you guys enjoyed my longer posts and I will try to type up some more in the future. But fojar you really are the loving worst. Your heart is as vile as a meth lab in some trashy trailer.
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I worship at the cult of Fojar
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Outrail posted:The only fat lazy westerners who can't understand metric are the fattest and laziest of westerners. ...Englishmen?
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On Oahu (can't say much about the other islands), the cultural identity for a lot of people is very strong since there is a majority of Asian and Pacific Islander. Many people there are mixed (like 5 different ethnicities is kinda common), so the hodge-podge people identify with whatever is the most prevalent for them or whatever grandparents were around (or whatever will help make them cooler with other people). My sister is half-white (from our dad), and she identifies as white even though she looks a billion percent Thai. It doesn't matter if people there are 3-4 mixed generations in Hawaii or the US, they still strongly identify as the Asian country of origin that they think is the one most important. There are a lot of people that get to Irish-American levels of self-identification about it, acting almost the exact same way about it. One of my friends had a mom from Hong Kong, so he claimed to be Chinese. When he went through his angsty teen years, he identified with the Chinese Cultural Revolution years and cosplayed as PLA dorks and had all sorts of Mao poo poo and shirts with the Chinese flag on it. The first time I went to China, I brought him a bunch of those garbage Communist souvenirs and he went apeshit over them. Since Japanese are such a part of the tourism, the history, and the current culture on Oahu and the Islands, the worst parts of modern Japanese culture have infiltrated the youth there, where many people might be like 1/8th Japanese or something. Everyone wants to identify as Japanese, often taking the The Chinese are weird, though. Many FOB or first generation refuse to mix in. There are tons of Chinese from HK, Taiwan, and Mainland, but they cling to their little groups, read their Chinese newspapers, force their kids to follow the filial system and grueling school ethic, and stay quiet when living among other ethinicities. Some do end up finding a way to fit in and making good for themselves, but it seems like many are scared and shy, unlike the other immigrants from around Asia that come in. I used to work a with a 2nd-gen Chinese woman that did the "roots" thing and shopped mostly in Chinatown and spoke Cantonese at home, but always had something bad to say about new Chinese immigrants and how cold they were. I guess they were still seeing everyone as "foreigner" and untrustworthy. I used to work "downtown" (next to Chinatown) in HNL at a crappy retail job when I was young (long before Mainland tourist were a thing) and I remember whenever I would ask a Chinese person if they needed help they would scurry away without looking at me. I would do the same for other people and everyone would acknowledge my existence, except the Chinese. Well, the tables have turned now!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!! On the other side, being a white kid/dude there, people always asked where my family was from. My dad's family is from Germany, and my mom is Native American, so they would be stuck in a limbo of deciding which one they wanted to identify me as. On one hand, the Natives can be friends with Hawaiians due to the history with the whites and invaders, but on the other hand Germany had Hitler and he was really powerful and stuff (Hitler was cool, I guess). So they would choose German most of the time (outside of asking me to do a rain dance here and there) and then make comments about my Germanity and asking if I spoke German at home (my dad was first gen, he lived there for a bit but doesn't give a poo poo). They'd be like "You're German! That explains your accent!" and I would be as confused as I could be, because I am American and speak with a standard Westcoast accent. They would identify me as German the same way they identified with Korean or something from great-grandfather's side. Haier fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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caberham posted:I like you guys trying to be nice and I'm trying to be nice too. I'm glad you guys enjoyed my longer posts and I will try to type up some more in the future.  It really is great when we can come together and agree on things in a civil and insult free discourse caberham posted:But fojar you really are the loving worst. Your heart is as vile as a meth lab in some trashy trailer. nm lol
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I think part of it is being afraid of the American "melting pot" stripping one's core identity away. Nobody wants to lose themselves at the cost of fitting in.
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I like fojar, i like cabe. I like .jpg
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caberham posted:But fojar you really are the loving worst. Your heart is as vile as a meth lab in some trashy trailer.  (I actually like you so this came way out of left field) Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Dec 28, 2016 |
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Haier posted:(outside of asking me to do a rain dance here and there) explaining the constant damp around you
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Fojar38 posted:
As long as you are rolling in blue meth you won't care.
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caberham posted:But fojar you really are the loving worst. Your heart is as vile as a meth lab in some trashy trailer. 
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in all of the history of China threads there have been some truly poo poo posters, fojar38 is not one of them imo. He's like 70% right 30% wrong 差不多
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The Great Autismo! posted:in all of the history of China threads there have been some truly poo poo posters, fojar38 is not one of them imo. He's like 70% right 30% wrong 差不多 There is no better insult.
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 but really I do like fojar38 and hope he never stops posting about China
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The Great Autismo! posted:
I don't know if he can continue after losing so much face.
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Blistex posted:My god-daughters are both adopted from China and are living in rural Northern Ontario (not that there are many Urban options here). I often worry about the hicks that they will run into as they grow up, and hope that they don't have to deal with much racism. I think that guys get it more than girls when it comes to overt racism, but the girls that they will be going to school with are merciless (I'm a teacher so I have some insight into this) and they like to exploit any perceived weakness they can find. My wife and I recently found out that we are going to be having a little "hybrid" of our own ("oh! mixed baby, so cute") and I really hope it turns out to be a girl, as there is this perception (not sure how true it is) that mixed Asian boys seem to have a bad track record with fitting in. Congratulations. Re: identity, some places with Chinese majorities like Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan are doing fine. They have their issues but are respectable, highly developed societies on the whole. It really is the mainland that looks like it got hosed up by the CCP. Not sure why you would tie your identity to shilling for them, though it's true that mainland China is obviously orders of magnitude larger than the other, better Chinas
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Blistex posted:My god-daughters are both adopted from China and are living in rural Northern Ontario (not that there are many Urban options here). I often worry about the hicks that they will run into as they grow up, and hope that they don't have to deal with much racism. I think that guys get it more than girls when it comes to overt racism, but the girls that they will be going to school with are merciless (I'm a teacher so I have some insight into this) and they like to exploit any perceived weakness they can find. My wife and I recently found out that we are going to be having a little "hybrid" of our own ("oh! mixed baby, so cute") and I really hope it turns out to be a girl, as there is this perception (not sure how true it is) that mixed Asian boys seem to have a bad track record with fitting in. Have you seen this wonderful section of Reddit? https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas
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nomad2020 posted:Have you seen this wonderful section of Reddit? The gently caress is that even?!?!
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nomad2020 posted:Have you seen this wonderful section of Reddit? According to one poster there the dating site wherewhitepeoplemeet is full of Asian women.....he isn't happy about it.
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oohhboy posted:The gently caress is that even?!?! Self hating half white half asian (men almost exclusively).
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oohhboy posted:The gently caress is that even?!?! It's the place for all the reject hybrids, whose white dads didn't love them enough. 
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Dicky mouse posted:According to one poster there the dating site wherewhitepeoplemeet is full of Asian women.....he isn't happy about it.
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Probably, but I don't remember seeing it.
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Sometimes I worry about my kids and their future. Will they identify as Canadian, Chinese, or just "Hongkonger"? Or the correct answer, British?
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Imperialist Dog posted:Sometimes I worry about my kids and their future. Will they identify as Canadian, Chinese, or just "Hongkonger"? Imerialist Dog you are first and formost a Goon. There is hope some time goonyness skips a generation. Just listen for them to ask about stairs and teach them respect irony.
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Imperialist Dog posted:Sometimes I worry about my kids and their future. Will they identify as Canadian, Chinese, or just "Hongkonger"? Will there be a Hong Kong by the time they grow up? Does anyone remember that low budget "documentary" an adopted Chinese girl did about going back to China to meet the money grubbing mother who gave her up in the first place? She was adopted by an upper-middle class white family in the mid west, I think. There was something in the article about the mother almost immediately asking the adopting family for 10K and how the girl had to teach her Chinese brother that people in America take showers every day.
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Imperialist Dog posted:Sometimes I worry about my kids and their future. Will they identify as Canadian, Chinese, or just "Hongkonger"? Who cares if the cat is black or white as long as it's a loyal subject? Teach them to keep their upper lips stiff and sing God Save the Queen.
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basic hitler posted:unless you graduated in the 80s or something, metric is what's actually taught in schools. Conversions are among the first real science concepts I learned, for all the use it was for me since by the time I arrived in physics if you didn't have a grasp of metric the science department would line up and smack the poo poo out of you one by one. The fact that what is taught to students is conversions should tell you everything you need to know about the majority of American culture and how they perceive the metric system. Metric is for doing weird science stuff, like buying medicine and getting good grades in high school. Cars are still mpg and mph, ground beef and bowling balls are still in lbs, and no one talks about their dick size in cm. I'm not saying that Americans aren't capable of using the metric system, I'm saying that it just doesn't represent the system used in daily life and so when they see an article from Chinar about thick walls they're just going to nod and move on and not get out the calculators.
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Imperialist Dog posted:Sometimes I worry about my kids and their future. Will they identify as Canadian, Chinese, or just "Hongkonger"? Anything but Chinese.
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Pirate Radar posted:Who cares if the cat is black or white as long as it's a loyal subject? Teach them to keep their upper lips stiff and sing God Save the Queen. I once had an idea for a parody Public Service Announcement style education video that would supposedly be played when mainlanders got on the train at Lo Wu. Just like how in some areas of China you say "Hello" by saying "have you eaten rice yet", or "have you made any money today", the video would tell tourists that Hong Kongers greet each other by saying "God Save the Queen". 王叔叔: 天佑女王，阿麥！你去邊到？ UNCLE WONG: GSTQ, Ah Mak! Where are you going? 麥叔叔：嘩，天佑女王！去賽馬會啦。 UNCLE MAK: Whoa, GSTQ! I'm going to the Jockey Club.
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Drugs being sold in metric just means I check the package to see how many pills I'm supposed to take. I'm not getting out a scale and weighing out my aspirin.
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Haha check out this cringe 1999 educational video for English. "I believe we can see a different way of life in the East" yes sure you smarmy Brit https://youtu.be/wuOIGaWlDOQ
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Blistex posted:as there is this perception (not sure how true it is) that mixed Asian boys seem to have a bad track record with fitting in. 
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Blistex posted:I really hope it turns out to be a girl, as there is this perception (not sure how true it is) that mixed Asian boys seem to have a bad track record with fitting in. Don't read the Hapas subreddit if you want this perception reinforced, it's one of the most horrifying Internet communities I've ever seen, without a doubt.
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Tupperwarez posted:Is this the same reddit that was linked here before? I said it then and I'll say it again, they should rename it to The Salt Mine, because gatdrat some of these guys... My sister pretends she's a sometimes white girl for some reason, but she'll switch back to a Thai in an instant when needed. I don't get the self-loathing some of those dudes have, but LOL. The Great Autismo! posted:
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