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battleships were the nuclear weapons of their time fleets in being were basically the pre-atomic version of MAD
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Dec 28, 2016 18:25
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did we determine if the f35 is bad or not
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Dec 28, 2016 20:13
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doesnt matter lol
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Dec 28, 2016 20:21
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OMGVBFLOL posted:did we determine if the f35 is bad or not Yeah it's not very good, just put a minigun on a PYB Catalina and take off from a submarine carrier defended by rail guns.
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Dec 28, 2016 20:22
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Rand alPaul posted:Yeah it's not very good, just put a minigun on a PYB Catalina and take off from a submarine carrier defended by rail guns. where's my lasers?!?! also people are gonna be super bummed out when they discover that unlike in sci-fi laser weapons dont have any visible color when fired
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Dec 28, 2016 20:24
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every warplane and missile and ship and bomb that is built represents an act of theft from a hungry child, a mother in poverty, a homeless human being
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Dec 28, 2016 20:25
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the f-35 is bad because it is a colossal waste of resources no matter what the price tag is
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Dec 28, 2016 20:26
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crazy cloud posted:every warplane and missile and ship and bomb that is built represents an act of theft from a hungry child, a mother in poverty, a homeless human being yeah well the american empire aint gonna prop up itself
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Dec 28, 2016 20:26
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crazy cloud posted:every warplane and missile and ship and bomb that is built represents an act of theft from a hungry child, a mother in poverty, a homeless human being I read that as warp lane and got excited for a minute FTL fighters own
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Dec 28, 2016 20:27
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Darkman Fanpage posted:yeah well the american empire aint gonna prop up itself ashes 2 ashes n dust 2 dust imo
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Dec 28, 2016 20:28
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VikingSkull posted:I read that as warp lane and got excited for a minute If they were warp capable i would be in favor of literally grinding up poor ppl for fuel probably lol
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Dec 28, 2016 20:29
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~super cruise~
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Dec 28, 2016 20:30
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Baloogan posted:~super cruise~ lol the F-35 can't
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Dec 28, 2016 20:43
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it's very important we make these planes that cost 1.5 trillion dollars to protect us from untold numbers of fighter planes that are constantly attacking the USA
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Dec 28, 2016 20:55
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Teikanmi posted:it's very important we make these planes that cost 1.5 trillion dollars to protect us from untold numbers of fighter planes that are constantly attacking the USA aw how cute you think the US isn't an aggressive empire
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Dec 28, 2016 21:02
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that's what unmanned drones are for, cheaper and saves livez takes all the ptsd out of blowing up the brown people
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Dec 28, 2016 21:07
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Can Donald actually reduce the cost of the F-35? Sure he can try to negotiate with Boeing on Air Force One and maybe save a few bucks, but the F-35 is like a million years of development hell with the goal of building a million jets eventually. . . Is it possible to save money that has already been spent on R&D? Also, doesn't the unit cost like go down as your order more jets? I thought the current $100mil cost per jet was based largely on spending a trillion bux to develop a certain number of planes.
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Dec 28, 2016 21:15
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Teikanmi posted:that's what unmanned drones are for, cheaper and saves livez Drone pilots get hecka ptsd because they fly the bomb camera down and then have to survey the damage and count how many of the wedding party were killed or mutilated
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Dec 28, 2016 21:16
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Teikanmi posted:that's what unmanned drones are for, cheaper and saves livez two specific nations without an air defense network unlike, say, Syria or Iran
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Dec 28, 2016 21:18
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theflyingexecutive posted:Drone pilots get hecka ptsd because they fly the bomb camera down and then have to survey the damage and count how many of the wedding party were killed or mutilated good 
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Dec 28, 2016 21:18
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Sun Wu Kampf posted:tbh battleships were a waste of money even during their heyday, battleship on battleship engagements almost never happened and they mostly only saw use for shore bombardment, and in WWII, floating AA batteries Battleship-on-battleship engagements happened plenty, just not during World War Two because of an odd knock-on effect of the Washington and London Treaties. Because countries could only build so many of the things they were jealously kept away from action and the cruiser ended up doing most of the surface warfare.
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Dec 28, 2016 22:23
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Baloogan posted:lol you need to read mahan there is no god but Neptune and Mahan (PBUH) is his prophet
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Dec 28, 2016 22:25
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there is something magical about being on a ship out of sight of land. most of the spots on the surface of the earth is like that. Top of the world. the curve of the sea itsself is masking you
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Dec 28, 2016 23:41
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if you want to understand history, read mahan.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:41
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history is dumb cuck poo poo and effort made to understand it is effort wasted hth
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Dec 28, 2016 23:46
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Baloogan posted:there is something magical about being on a ship out of sight of land. most of the spots on the surface of the earth is like that. Top of the world. the curve of the sea itsself is masking you i love guaranteed death if my giant bathtub sinks v. magical
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Dec 29, 2016 00:00
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Even more magical when your single engine throws a blade. e: being out at sea is for real awesome, do it.
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Dec 29, 2016 00:32
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Crotch Fruit posted:Can Donald actually reduce the cost of the F-35? Sure he can try to negotiate with Boeing on Air Force One and maybe save a few bucks, but the F-35 is like a million years of development hell with the goal of building a million jets eventually. . . Is it possible to save money that has already been spent on R&D? Also, doesn't the unit cost like go down as your order more jets? I thought the current $100mil cost per jet was based largely on spending a trillion bux to develop a certain number of planes. people are saying that the unit cost is going to go down as the f-35 exits development and enters full production, and trump will claim full credit that's what they tell me.
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Dec 29, 2016 01:32
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PleasingFungus posted:people are saying that the unit cost is going to go down as the f-35 exits development and enters full production, and trump will claim full credit The problem is the high cost led to order cuts, especially for overseas customers which reduces the economy of scale arguement
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Dec 29, 2016 01:50
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VikingSkull posted:that's why we have an orbital mirror system mrbradlymrmartin posted:why not just put the lasers in orbit? youd have less loss to the atmosphere that way yeah? Both of these are in Command and Conquer lol. crazy cloud posted:every warplane and missile and ship and bomb that is built represents an act of theft from a hungry child, a mother in poverty, a homeless human being Eisenhower, last good republican president?
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Dec 29, 2016 02:12
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Concordat posted:Eisenhower, last good republican president? eisenhower was legit good as far as presidents go his one sin was giving nixon a VP slot and legitimizing him for the future
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Dec 29, 2016 02:20
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If I recall correctly, both parties wanted him to run for them and he had trouble picking one over the other.
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Dec 29, 2016 02:24
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i mean, the whole domino theory in regards to communism was also a problem, but i attribute that more to the times and attitudes of everyone around him especially dulles, goddamn, gently caress dulles, nothing good came of the motherfucker
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Dec 29, 2016 02:28
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The airport terminal looks kinda neat.
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Dec 29, 2016 03:30
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Concordat posted:The airport terminal looks kinda neat. i've been through dulles once and i live near DC it's the most expensive airport in the region, it's not convenient to anything even with the new silver line, and the only thing it has going for it is the brutalist architecture if i'm flying on the cheap, i take BWI. if i'm flying on someone else's dime and want convenience, i go through reagan and curse his name
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Dec 29, 2016 03:49
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Eisenhower, as Supreme Commander in Europe during WWII, was essential in creating the industrialized manner in which arms procurement was set up his warning on the way out about the MIC rings a bit hollow, like when Oppenheimer said "I am become death, destroyer of worlds" like, thanks for creating the problem, rear end in a top hat, nice of you to recognize it after the fact
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Dec 29, 2016 05:38
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Darkman Fanpage posted:where's my lasers?!?! This man would never lie to me. 
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Dec 29, 2016 06:30
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PleasingFungus posted:people are saying that the unit cost is going to go down as the f-35 exits development and enters full production, and trump will claim full credit That's exactly what they said about space shuttles and their launches
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Unlike F-35, Space Shuttles were cool so who cares about cost.
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