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Faaaaaaaaaairly certain bouncing your face off solid rock while descending at 9.8 m/s is not the sort of thing one survives. I mean, half the poo poo in the latter half of that video wasn't survivable but that one sticks out for some reason.
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You know, they're both flawed individually, but Rafe and Nadine as a duo are pretty fantastic antagonists.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:06
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that's not the twist i expected does that make it a double twist?
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1stGear posted:Faaaaaaaaaairly certain bouncing your face off solid rock while descending at 9.8 m/s is not the sort of thing one survives. Coupled with a plunge into cold water - yeah you're dead. If it were a leg or the shoulder I'd be willing to handwave it but yeah, RIP Drake. Also what the hell was that building made out of? Antigravity-ium?
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Dec 28, 2016 23:25
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Elena looks great for having a grenade blow her up. Hospitals must be amazing in the Uncharted universe.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:29
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RareAcumen posted:Elena looks great for having a grenade blow her up. Hospitals must be amazing in the Uncharted universe. Hey, Elena has been exploded by grenades before and she recovered from that just fine. Think of it like an extension of journalistic integrity. edit: But like, literal integrity, on your insides.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:41
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After the talk of butts and maps I was reminded of a certain comic and I couldn't resist throwing this together.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:42
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Man, I did not see that coming, but in hindsight, something tells me I should've.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:48
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I can't believe Nathan Drake is loving dead.
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Dec 28, 2016 23:59
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I can't believe Samuel Drake Lied to Us.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Man, I did not see that coming, but in hindsight, something tells me I should've. It certainly retroactively made me feel better about having to shoot a bunch of prison guards.
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Dec 29, 2016 00:12
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In any other game it would have been the two brothers teaming up to beat someone they couldn't on their own, but no, Nadine just kicks both their asses at once.
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Dec 29, 2016 00:13
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Whoof, that is a brutal freaking cliffhanger. Yeah, I knew Sam was gonna turn out to do/have done something slimy, but I hadn't thought too hard on what exactly it would be. That said, my money has always been on Nadine surviving the game with some kind of partnership compromise with Nate. The first game got enough well-earned flack for having POC only as the bad guys (and the bad guys mostly almost all POC) that I don't think they'd make a similar mistake again.
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wiegieman posted:In any other game it would have been the two brothers teaming up to beat someone they couldn't on their own, but no, Nadine just kicks both their asses at once. Yeah, she's just far and above everyone else when it comes to fights. She's like those monks in Sleeping Dogs. Or one of the Snake clones that learned CQC.
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I'm starting to think Nadine's impatience is her only character flaw besides liking money, but really who doesn't like money?
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Dec 29, 2016 00:27
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that set piece is def my favorite in uncharted 4. I like it a lot
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Dec 29, 2016 00:31
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Rafe is kind of an idiot. If he decides that he only needs one Drake, why chose the one who was stuck for 2 years before betraying him, rather than the competent, somewhat gullible one, who got duped into killing countless people and ruining his marriage by the first one? Maybe he still has Sam on his payroll and wants to circumvent a visit with HR when Nate gets employed. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Rafe is kind of an idiot. If he decides that he only needs one Drake, why chose the one who was stuck for 2 years before betraying him, rather than the competent, somewhat gullible one, who got duped into killing countless people and ruining his marriage by the first one? To me it was more of a 'Even if Sam totally duped me after everything, he still worked with me. While Nate walked away and hasn't come back after that time.' Plus Nadine seems to really, really hate Nate's guts. Probably because of something Sully did. Sully 
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She's mad at Sully for only telling the end of jokes and stories.
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Nadine saying "I'll never trust a Drake, not again" or similar shortly before booting Nate in the head was a nice little touch. When I played through and heard that line I caught it like "wait, what?" but it's very easy to miss or assume she means Nate. It's a nice bit of immediate foreshadowing for Sam's admittance in the next cutscene.
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CJacobs posted:Hey, Elena has been exploded by grenades before and she recovered from that just fine. Think of it like an extension of journalistic integrity. At this point in her career she's probably been patched up more than Admiral Benson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvcysI4zwE
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Wow, I thought we were building to Alcazar being some kind of immortal pirate captain from the Libertalia founder team, who modernized in secret and duped Sam to get all that sweet Libertalian gold. He looked like that one captain from the lineup, the one Sully and Nate had to re-hang the portrait for in Madagascar. ...wait a minute. We only had Sam's fabricated tale to go on for Alcazar's physical description, and we have no indication that Sam actually knows what Alcazar looks like. In that flashback, Alcazar's men were using a type of arms we've now seen Shoreline using, suggesting that Sam is filling the details of his story with scattered pieces of information from reality. Sam is an expert on pirates like nobody else in the cast, so he can safely include parts of that in a lie and be confident nobody else would know enough to pick him up on that. Alcazar looks like that because, when pressed for a physical description of a figure Sam had never actually met, he fell back on a figure he could readily and consistently describe: a pirate.
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I am suddenly much less interested in the plot after that cutscene. Cliche brother betrayal, Sam gets shot again in a maybe-lethal way, and the possibility of a three-way tug of war is thrown out like old milk. I would actually be completely okay if ep20 was just Nate stealing a boat and going home to try to patch things up with Elena. Let Rafe comb that island for years for the treasure, let Sam be Schroedinger's brother again, just go home and be happy you're not dealing with this poo poo anymore.
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Felinoid posted:I am suddenly much less interested in the plot after that cutscene. Cliche brother betrayal, Sam gets shot again in a maybe-lethal way, and the possibility of a three-way tug of war is thrown out like old milk. I would actually be completely okay if ep20 was just Nate stealing a boat and going home to try to patch things up with Elena. Let Rafe comb that island for years for the treasure, let Sam be Schroedinger's brother again, just go home and be happy you're not dealing with this poo poo anymore. Yeah, this last cutscene completely lost the game for me. Such a shame too, because they had a pretty nice thing going.
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NineWheels posted:That said, my money has always been on Nadine surviving the game with some kind of partnership compromise with Nate. I don't think so, she seemed pretty pissed about Nate's body count.
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I hope the supernatural badguy is just nadine, otherwise she's lame as hell. girl isn't nearly beefy enough to be this much of a terminator, so the only other explanation is that she subtly puts out a field that makes everyone around her incompetent. this would also explain why rafe and shoreline mooks are so useless, they're suffering long-term exposure.
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darealkooky posted:I hope the supernatural badguy is just nadine, otherwise she's lame as hell. To be fair, she's only doing judo throws and kicking people out of centuries old broken-down windows. It's not like she's hammer tossing people around by their legs or picking people up over her head or anything.
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Nadine's clearly a military trained woman fighting two guys who only really know how to street fight. Though all the SANDF training the world can't save you from the Drake Punch. Also, I'm pretty sure those two soldiers at the end are literally the last Shoreline members.
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That certainly explains why'd we'd get introduced to two goon-hiring warlord types and only ever have to deal with one of them and it wouldn't make sense for Alcazar to show up suddenly to interrupt us getting the funds to pay him, though it would've been interesting if we suddenly had Rafe and Alcazar fighting with each other because Alcazar didn't want his treasure hunter interrupted. And now we're back on a semi St. Dismas theme with both of our Drake boys ousted as liars and thieves to their loved ones, so they can both potentially be penitent. cant cook creole bream posted:Rafe is kind of an idiot. If he decides that he only needs one Drake, why chose the one who was stuck for 2 years before betraying him, rather than the competent, somewhat gullible one, who got duped into killing countless people and ruining his marriage by the first one? Seems fairly apparent, Sam was the one he originally wanted and got out of prison for his knowledge of Avery and pirates (we even had the case of needed to text Sam about the pirate portraits, remember). He already ran into a dead end with just Nate and that led to years of fruitlessly digging in the wrong place around the church grounds he bought. Nate isn't suddenly more knowledgeable than Sam just cause we've gotten this far.
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Sam's plan also seems to have banked on Nate and Sully having not read the news in the past six months. Pretty sure "Infamous Panamanian drug lord dies in gun battle" is going to warrant at least a couple paragraphs in the "AP In Brief" section.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Sam's plan also seems to have banked on Nate and Sully having not read the news in the past six months. Pretty sure "Infamous Panamanian drug lord dies in gun battle" is going to warrant at least a couple paragraphs in the "AP In Brief" section. "Sully, when was the last time you ever read a newspaper?" "I dunno, there was something about some Austrian guy getting shot in Sarajevo."
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I told you that they're all technologically illiterate. Drake learning how to use that phone is a miracle in itself.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Sam's plan also seems to have banked on Nate and Sully having not read the news in the past six months. Pretty sure "Infamous Panamanian drug lord dies in gun battle" is going to warrant at least a couple paragraphs in the "AP In Brief" section. "Holy poo poo, Sam, look at this! He got shot! Alcazar is dead. We can just quit this whole thing and go home. Man, what a relief, am I right?" "...Err... his ghost is after me?" "Oh. poo poo. I hate it when that happens. Sully's got an online exorcism cert, though, so we can still make this work." "He has a WHAT?"
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cant cook creole bream posted:Rafe is kind of an idiot. If he decides that he only needs one Drake, why chose the one who was stuck for 2 years before betraying him, rather than the competent, somewhat gullible one, who got duped into killing countless people and ruining his marriage by the first one? Sam is as obsessed with Avery's treasure as Rafe is, it's just that both of them think they're the rational one and the other one is the obsessed one they can use for their benefit. So Rafe chose the Drake that, in his mind, he will be able to manipulate into helping him. Killing Nate was removing all other emotional attachments Sam had, now he has nothing to live for except finding Avery's treasure.
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Lmao this game isn't going to give us a satisfying payoff with Nadine is it I'm willing to bet money now that she walks out of this game alive
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Dec 29, 2016 02:57
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It's like if Flynn escapes uncharted 2. It's insane.
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One detail I do like is Sam does fire the gun, it's only Nate that stops Nadine from being killed.
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Grapplejack posted:Lmao this game isn't going to give us a satisfying payoff with Nadine is it By satisfying payoff you mean that Drake kills her or something? I mean, the thing with Nadine is that she's a "bad guy" but not really a bad guy, she's not really a slimy prick the way Rafe is. Like, out of all the antagonists in the Uncharted games so far Nadine seems like the most pragmatic and businesslike, she doesn't like to smug it up and monologue, it's not her that does dumb poo poo like "well I only need one Drake," so far her biggest "crime" so to speak is simply being a better fighter than the ol' Drake Boys which doesn't really paint her as someone in desperate need of comeuppance imo. e; like in Uncharted 2 Flynn betrays you in the prologue and leaves you to get locked up in a Turkish prison, to say nothing of all the other poo poo he does working as the right-hand man of a war criminal. Nadine's role in this game is basically just Rafe's muscle. Kai Tave fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Dec 29, 2016 |
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Shoreline in general definitely seem like a shady bunch based on the incidental dialogue of all the Shoreline goons.
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She's also been the main force behind all of your gunfights / goons and has been put in that position by the story. She's the secondary villain and having her walk away from this game would be ridiculous. If anything they've been really heavily downplaying Rafe as being an actual threat (in that he's basically the money man and is vaguely commanding Nadine's army), so it might just be an issue with the writing of the villains in this game in general, rather than being an issue with Nadine.
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