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Another nation that I like thematically despite having glaring weaknesses is EA R'yleh (I've loved Aboleths since discovering them in 2E D&D Monster Manual). What are some tips to playing them?
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Dec 29, 2016 19:07
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SirPhoebos posted:Another nation that I like thematically despite having glaring weaknesses is EA R'yleh (I've loved Aboleths since discovering them in 2E D&D Monster Manual). What are some tips to playing them? 
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Dec 29, 2016 20:47
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Did you ask other people to contribute to your evil caper or just get lucky with Death/Luck/Magic events?
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Dec 29, 2016 20:59
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those air paths are also important. if the BoT doesn't make em rage quit, the foul air just might
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Dec 29, 2016 21:03
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Sloppy Milkshake posted:those air paths are also important. if the BoT doesn't make em rage quit, the foul air just might Also when I do the attack->search repeat for a long time dance with him (which he starts turn one. after his first death i give him the gear he's wearing in that screenshot) he finds A so at some point a fish can be empowered to A1 and make fish amulets forever. Trade for D, search D, alch D do whatever you can to get those 70D to be ready for thau 5. The faster you can make everyone bankrupt like you should be, the better. Rlyeh can't compete on a level playing field so you basically have to just scream incoherently and flip the board to even have a chance.
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Dec 29, 2016 21:31
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Sadly even turn 14 BoT isn't enough to win the game. Although if everyone rage quits no one will be able to test this, so it is always worth a try.
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Dec 30, 2016 13:46
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If everyone rage quits you've won.
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Dec 30, 2016 14:22
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That would need a game without elves.
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Dec 30, 2016 14:50
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*tokes on weed blunt* an elf nation with no money is just a normal nation, with no money
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Dec 30, 2016 14:51
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I didnt find it in the OP, but has AwesomeGods, AwesomeEndgame or forbidden friendship been updated for Dom 4 yet?
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Dec 30, 2016 23:44
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yeah ut's called picking xibalba/pan
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Jan 1, 2017 01:45
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jBrereton posted:*tokes on weed blunt* an elf nation with no money is just a normal nation, with no money I loved Seo - luck/turmoil scales and insane bless with the ability to summon tartarians, make them commanders and somehow have gift of health up. I pretty much got incapacitated by a concussion and stopped playing - also someone had an insanely dangerous undead killing thug that I was losing to at the time? Regardless. Best game I've had so far. I was actually doing ok. Man I love fomoria
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Jan 1, 2017 02:25
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Alright, it's almost a new year, and we all know you're going to do some stupid things. You should just acknowledge that and join Grandpa's Closet Reloaded We did a Grandpa's Closet game several years ago, and it wasn't exactly a huge success. I hope to have learned from my mistakes and can engineer better game settings. This is going to be an all ages huge game on a ~1200 province map, featuring D&D's World of Greyhawk in MS Paint glory. There may be an adventure map available with defined sites, but we won't be using that. download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dr0am57xne2xv8n/OeridiaDom4.zip?dl=0 We're either going to play with thrones, or accumulating VPs. It turns out you can't use thrones as VP generators which is totally lame since thrones are cool, I'm not sure which yet. I would like it if the game actually ended, accumulating VP would help with that. This will be a disciples game with 4 person teams. 3 normal team members, and one Extra Special Aqua Friend! (nations that start underwater are aquafriends). Normal team members can not be aquatic. Please do not go AI without consulting your team mates first, and please try to be available in irc. No ermor/lemuria/other pop kill nations. If you want to run one with recruitment like LA R'lyeh or Asphodel as a disciple that will probably be OK. We'll be playing with the JBBM or something like that TBD. I'll probably take out Burden of Time and Astral Corruption since on a big game some rude dude is going to rush it and that poo poo is obnoxious. Arcane Nexus is also likely out as it is silly in big games. Link to post here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3568182&userid=201009&perpage=40&pagenumber=31#post467504774 I haven't made the game or created signups yet, and I'll probably wait a couple days for feedback, as most of this is up for debate and I've probably missed some stuff. Talk amongst yourselves and find team mates though! Barono fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 04:29
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SirPhoebos posted:Another nation that I like thematically despite having glaring weaknesses is EA R'yleh (I've loved Aboleths since discovering them in 2E D&D Monster Manual). What are some tips to playing them? The usual water nation tactics apply, namely conquer the sea, then scout around on land until you find someone you are bordering who is losing a war and invade them and take their land provinces, you don't want to try and 1v1 a land nation on land. Get a pretender who can create amulets of the fish to get your mages on land. In terms of strengths you have: 1) 50 Morale reasonable hp units in lobo guards and shambler thralls, the lobo guards have a better gold:hp ratio, but the thralls are better against massed evocations as they are bigger and hence the evocations will hit fewer of them, you also need fewer commanders for them. These units will fight to the last unit, giving you plenty of time to spam spells from behind them. 2) 100 precision, 100 range mind blasters, good for small-medium numbers of units, so long as they dont have very high magic resistance. 3) You can get very high access to water and astral. Your mind lords get natural astral 4 and water 4, you can use mind vessel to get extra astral 3/4 mages. An androdai with S4 from mind vessel, plus a crystal coin and a starshine skullcap is up to S6, then cast power of the spheres and light of the northern star and they are up to S8. This is before getting into communions. That lone androdai can drop out the sky by itself and cast master enslave on an entire army, or two or three at the same time could, with some magic penetration items equipped as well. 4) Communions, all your mages can join communions, even ordinary slave mages with power of the spheres, light of the northern star, and 4 communion slaves are W5/S5 casters (thats ignoring their bonus paths too). Your slave mages can use their earth/nature to give the communion earthpower and relief for reinvigoration as well as casting personnel regeneration. In terms of spells to cast Falling frost deals 17+ damage to a 5+ aoe of squares, the + means one extra damage/aoe for each level above the casting requirement. The fatigue cost is also reduced for each level over the casting cost. Cast falling frost on large masses of troops. Frozen heart does 10++ armor negating 100 precision damage to one target cast this on small numbers of elite troops. With the astral levels you can get you do unlimited stellar cascades spam, this works as an alternative to falling frost for large armies if your enemy has cold resistance or very high protection. You can use soul slay/enslave mind as an alternative for elite troops if they have high cold resistance. In terms of late game, you have high astral for Master enslave / Arcane Nexus / Wish and high water for Niefel flames and Living water. If you get this far I'd recommend mixing it up between master enslave/niefel flames/living water all three can be devastating with high astral/water mages. Use teleport so that your opponent never knows whether a master enslave communion, 40 full size water elementals, or several casts of 25+ aoe armor negating damage will drop out of the sky onto their army. Its also worth noting that with power of the spheres combined with communions your earth/death/nature random mages can actually get up to E4/D4/N4 or higher without too much trouble. If there is a spell in one of those paths that counters what your opponent is doing you can use it, you can also make sure to cast all the E/D/N battlefield enchantments that benefit you. When you start diversifying into fire/air/blood you can forge crystal matrixes to help boost whatever mages you can get in those paths. Applebee123 fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 05:45
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How do I expand with MA Nazca without using Earth Snake? I've been trying out all their units, and it feels like none of them can expand worth a drat, unless it's a bless strategy.
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Jan 1, 2017 06:53
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Eeepies posted:How do I expand with MA Nazca without using Earth Snake? I've been trying out all their units, and it feels like none of them can expand worth a drat, unless it's a bless strategy. recruit an apu, suicide the apu . use the skeleton card to capture slaves until you have 80 slaves. attack indies with 80 slaves until you get a mountain. make paco of the mountain or whatever the a1 mage is. research phantasmal warrior. script phantasmal warriorx5+spells on 5 pacos
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Jan 1, 2017 07:11
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violent sex idiot posted:recruit an apu, suicide the apu . use the skeleton card to capture slaves until you have 80 slaves. attack indies with 80 slaves until you get a mountain. make paco of the mountain or whatever the a1 mage is. research phantasmal warrior. script phantasmal warriorx5+spells on 5 pacos Alternatively mass ranged trash and selectively hit low prot indies/vastly smaller groups with it. Use snek or w/e to clear hard to clear stuff.
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Jan 1, 2017 09:52
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What new memes have the meta created in the last few months?
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Jan 2, 2017 05:15
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Samog posted:Announcing a new game, Beyond Measure I have hand-crafted an incredibly detailed mod for this game and that Samog should definitely use instead of his weak sauce low effort mod. 
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Jan 2, 2017 13:39
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There's something incredibly satisfying about doing the traditional sneaky elf tactic of stabbing someone in the back with a bunch of glamored troops and taking half his provinces while he's busy invading some poor sod.
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Jan 4, 2017 09:32
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Baudin posted:There's something incredibly satisfying about doing the traditional sneaky elf tactic of stabbing someone in the back with a bunch of glamored troops and taking half his provinces while he's busy invading some poor sod. Only half?
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Jan 4, 2017 18:17
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Only half? Look I'm not that good at Dom4 ok
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Jan 4, 2017 18:18
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Abysia is really weird sometimes. I won this.
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Jan 5, 2017 07:32
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Are you the one with the little red weasels, or the one with all the horseys?
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Jan 5, 2017 21:02
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Leperflesh posted:Are you the one with the little red weasels, or the one with all the horseys? Red weasels, which are salamanders. He probably lost a shitton of them/all of them to that cav.
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Jan 5, 2017 21:13
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what if salamanders were free but you could only make one per month per fort
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Jan 5, 2017 22:43
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Samog posted:what if salamanders were free but you could only make one per month per fort Then they would be really really good instead of a boondoggle.
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Jan 6, 2017 00:26
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make the salamanders cost the same but make them commanders, imo have them drive herds of abysians into battle
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Jan 6, 2017 00:48
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Then they would be really really good instead of a boondoggle. good.
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Jan 6, 2017 00:56
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:make the salamanders cost the same but make them commanders, imo Make them the de facto leaders of the late age nation.
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Jan 6, 2017 01:09
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:make the salamanders cost the same but make them commanders, imo I mean you could gift of reason them...
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Jan 6, 2017 02:10
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What's a good research path for ea Tien Chi? Flaming arrows looks good with all my archers but the default mages look like they don't have enough fire to cast it.
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Jan 6, 2017 22:24
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Tagichatn posted:What's a good research path for ea Tien Chi? Flaming arrows looks good with all my archers but the default mages look like they don't have enough fire to cast it. Looks like your Celestial Masters, and Masters of the Five Elements are both at best F2. If you have F4 on your pretender you can forge Flame Helmets for them, and then get them to F3, then it should only cost you 2 fire gems per battle to cast Flaming Arrows. At F3 I think a mage can eat up to 3 gems, one for the under level, and one for the spell cost, where-as at F2 you would hit your limit of 2 gems just for getting to effective rank 4. At least that is how I think that stuff works.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:18
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Have any F2 cast Phoenix power. They are now F3 and you can spend a extra gem (like Legends of the Hidden Temple) to raise your F temporarily to 4 and spend another gem to cast Flaming Arrows. It will cost 2 or 3 gems so have a scout hold onto the extras you will need to replenish with. You can only spend as many gems as you have path though. So you couldn't have an E2, cast earth power, spend a gem and then 4 more quake.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:46
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Oh yeah, summon phoenix power, Conjuration, forgot about that.
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Jan 7, 2017 00:10
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you are only allowed to spend one gem to make your effective wizardlyness higher, as well as only allowed per turn to use as many gems as your level of that path
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Jan 7, 2017 00:26
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You also can't do this with blood slaves
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Jan 7, 2017 00:58
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Can you mix & match blood communion with astral communion in the same fight? As in, blood guys cast the blood slave thing, astral guys cast astral slave thing, and then any master is a master of all the slaves of both types?
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Jan 7, 2017 01:02
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yeah, there's just one communion per side per battle
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Jan 7, 2017 01:04
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Awesome, thanks for the tips!
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Jan 7, 2017 01:57
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