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ladron posted:go to korea they are so kind and have four seasons OTOH Singapore only really has one season, so this is a valid comment. The season is summer heat all day every day.
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Private Speech posted:OTOH Singapore only really has one season, so this is a valid comment. EDIT: I didn't want to post that, but oh well. 'member when China wasn't even a thing? I remember. 
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Atlas Hugged posted:You could move to KaoHsiung where no one speaks English and you have to use Mandarin even though everyone speaks Hokkien or Hakka at home. I live in a city where no one speaks English. Doesn't stop them from trying to speak English. On Singapore: what's so bad about it exactly? If you take a poo poo in the street or gently caress whores loudly in public while injecting heroine they beat you with a cane and deport you? I'm a quiet nerd, not a party animal, so assuming I could actually afford to live there, would it still be bad?
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nickmeister posted:assuming I could actually afford to live there this is your first mistake
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nickmeister posted:I live in a city where no one speaks English. Doesn't stop them from trying to speak English. Weird. Whenever I'm in the south people just default into Mandarin since that's the language they're used to using to communicate with people who have different mother tongues. I've gone up into the mountains to eat BBQ and the aboriginals speak Mandarin to me. I go to 7-11 in the lovely small town my wife is from and they speak Mandarin to me. You get the odd old guy who went to the States once who will say a few words of English, but it's basically Mandarin or Hokkien all the time.
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https://twitter.com/partidazocope/status/814585726352453633quote:Jorge Mendes to Sky Sport: "Real Madrid has an offer from China for €300 million for Cristiano and a salary of over €100 million annually."  China... this isn't going to make your lovely players and zero-culture of football/soccer any better than it already is.
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It's not that bad, really. I suppose the liberal immigration laws make for a challenging environment when looking for work, and the price problem is weird - most things are fairly cheap by developed country standards (lot like Germany), except for housing g which is insanely expensive (and the wages aren't that high). Think London housing prices. On the other hand the average salary there makes life more affordable than Japan and the work-life balance is better than in Japan too. And when people say that everyone speaks English they mean that even native people do actually speak English with each h other most of the time, not like Europe where 'everyone' might speak a bit of English but not really. Chinese is fairly widely spoken as well though (mostly Mandarin, some Cantonese and Hakka). Uhh I guess it's kinda boring and authoritarian, but only when compared to Japan or Seul, it's not bad compared to other places in Asia. Fake edit: I'm phoneposting this so there's probably some typos here and there
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Atlas Hugged posted:Weird. Whenever I'm in the south people just default into Mandarin since that's the language they're used to using to communicate with people who have different mother tongues. I've gone up into the mountains to eat BBQ and the aboriginals speak Mandarin to me. I go to 7-11 in the lovely small town my wife is from and they speak Mandarin to me. You get the odd old guy who went to the States once who will say a few words of English, but it's basically Mandarin or Hokkien all the time. It's only a couple of cities over from Taipei. Maybe it's different in the south? The impression I get is that most foreigners only stick to Taipei. Haier posted:
Is this really the best picture they could get? He looks like, "Ew... Chinese kids..."
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Even in Taipei people often try Mandarin with me before English, which is nice. A friend came over yesterday and we stopped by the Hi-Life near my apartment. My friend doesn't speak any Chinese so she just tries English whenever, which I wasn't expecting to work, since I didn't think the lady at that Hi-Life spoke any. Turns out she does! I've just never spoken English with her.
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ocrumsprug posted:They dialed the nerd boys, and the women who will not date them, up to 11. Also literally every other non-Western country
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nickmeister posted:Is this really the best picture they could get? He looks like, "Ew... Chinese kids..." Don't want to actually touch them, might get some poor on me.
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ocrumsprug posted:If you are an angry American feminist I suggest you never look too closely at Japan as you will probably stroke out. Maybe the Japanese could learn a thing or two about equality from China.
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Fun fact about japan they don't do real sex education. Also their attitude regarding abortion. Before the war abortion was illegal because the government wanted more men to serve in the army. Though for along time ŠÔˆø‚« (mabiki) was common. A teacher once explained that a son is always good, a daughter is also good she can be married off, and second daughter is also good she can stay home and help around the house but a 3rd daughter is bankruptcy. In the villages there were little huts for birthing and well....sometimes the child didn't make.... So after the war there was a food shortage, so abortion was legalized. Well after the birth control pill was invented, there was this idea that Japanese are basically a different species or race and while it might be good for white people would be unhealthy for their women. Never mind that abortions are more money for a doctor. Now when Viagra came into the scene all of that kinda went away because now old men could have sex and they sure as hell wouldn't be doing it with their wives, and they sure as hell wouldn't be using condoms....but gently caress man abortions are exspensive to the birth control pill was finally on the market. Now whats weird when I was learning all this during a lovely semester abroad. It was pointed out by my fellow non Japanese classmates that japan doesn't have the Christian hang up about abortion, but they seems to have similar modesty hang up about sex. They gently caress oh they gently caress if they see a man and woman go somewhere alone that's the first thing they will assume. But if you are trying to do a survey then they will simply lie. Here is the issue the country side is dying you want a job you have to go to a urban area, with a high cost of housing. Then if you have a kid your gonna be out a lot of time and money. So they gently caress but good luck getting that child to term there buddy. Throw in the fact that they are very very xenophobic, with the fact the olds live a rather long time and yeah it s a demographic nightmare. I figured the first thing they could do would be to readjust the loving realestate market so the young people could afford housing. Edit: story for Haier So when I was in japan I heard a story about a Japanese couple that did a semester in Australia, The girl got knocked up so the man married her to save face. Well when the kid was born he was part black.... I know it wrong but sometimes imagine that to save face the kid grows up with no one pointing this out like the whole town just ignores it to save face. Dicky mouse fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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ocrumsprug posted:They dialed the nerd boys, and the women who will not date them, up to 11. Yeah the half life for western women who don't have a compelling reason to be here is about six months.
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Haier posted:This happened to me IRL and it is the reason I chose the glorious People's Republic, where men and women are equal in Communism under the careful, watchful eyes of Grandfather Mao. Ok, this post reminded me of something. Since I am the resident white face in my boss's social circle, I have met tons of her friends. Many of them have kids and ask me if I can teach them English or tutor them or something. I can't teach English, I'm not a teacher, and I never tried, but sometimes they want to throw me a few hundred RMB for it and it seemed like a decent idea. I decided to try it a while ago: Kid 01, age 10 or 11, I forgot: Her mom had nothing in mind for her learning English for school, and only wanted her to practice phonics and speaking, since the mom hopes to move the whole family to Canada later (LOL). The kid was cool and spoke English pretty well, but shy. She wanted to talk about her toys and TF Boys and the stuff she owns. She didn't want to read, but the mom forced me to get her to read some kid's books in English. She was really mellow and put up no fuss and it was super easy money. The mom wanted her to practice writing in English, so we chose some words and I said she could write a story or just make sentences with the vocabulary. I said she could choose one animal or person to make the story about. She asked if she could choose a country. I said sure. She began writing. Her: "How do you spell 'hate'?" Me: "Why?" Her: "I chose Japan. How do you spell 'Hate'?" Me: "You should write a nice story. You don't need to say you hate something." Her: "But I hate Japan." Me: "You don't know anything about Japan. You only know that you are supposed to hate Japan. Think for yourself. Who told you you to hate Japan?" Her: "My grandmother. She said I should hate Japan." *The mother comes in* Mom: "What is she talking about?" Me: "She wants to write a story about how she hates Japan, but I said it should be a positive story, no hate." Girl: "Mama, how do you spell 'hate'?" Mom: *Speaking Chinese Girl: *Speaking Chinese "Hate Japan" Mom: "She won't write this story. Tell her to choose another place." The girl wrote about Korea and thinks Koreans are fat. Kid 02, age 12: This girl's mom heard I was tutoring from the other girl's mom, so she said she wanted to have me come try once and see how it goes. Her daughter is a star athlete but kinda dumb in book learning, so her focus was me getting her to pay attention and practice more, do some school-type crap. The family is loaded. The mom's face is made of about 90% plastic surgery. Everything is about as Tuhao as it comes, and even the kid has a gold iPhone 6s Plus or whatever. The kid seemed happy, but the second I open the book the mom wanted me to use, she puts on this super sour face. I asked her to repeat after me, and she tries but then starts rambling at me in Chinese. The mom heard and says "Speak English." The kid starts speaking English, but seems to get more and more annoyed with me. I ask her questions about herself, because the book has a list of questions for kids to talk about themselves. "Which city were you born in?" "...No..." She starts saying all this stuff in me in Chinese and refusing to cooperate, so I get the mom (the mom is serious about all this, because she's paying and doesn't want to waste money). Mom: *In English* "Speak English, this is an English class." Kid: *Chinese..."LAOWAI"...."LAOWAI"...."LAOWAI!!!" Me: "Don't say laowai, it's rude. Say waiguoren." Kid: "LAOWAI!!" Mom: *Angry Chinese, and then English "This is an English lesson, you must speak English." Kid: *Turns to me "You can't speak Chinese, why are you in China? China is for Chinese!" Me: "This is an English lesson, we will speak English." Her: "This is CHINA!! You shouldn't be in China!" Me: *Looking at the mom Mom: *Hits the kid on the head really hard Me: *Internally super stoked about that The kid sulked and angrily repeated whatever I asked her to until the hour was up. Seeing such strong racism and hatred out of these tiny kids helped me to see how hosed this country is for the long term. It also helped me to understand there is not enough money in the world that could be thrown at me to teach people that weren't paying it out of pocket themselves willingly. I don't know how the gently caress people teach English to young kids and teenagers. No wonder they drink so drat much. I still tutor the chill kid every once in a while because she's pretty cool and it is easy money.
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Haier posted:This is my favorite (for real), but I can't afford that S-pore life. KL is probably a different story, but I am on the fence about going there for any reason except to see some Chinese friends. I don't see why wouldn't someone like KL. It's a cool laid back place with friendly, educated, non-gawky locals, all sorts of fun places to relax in and everything you expect from a modern city. Given a choice between KL and Singapore I'd go with KL, it's way less strict and more chill.
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The Great Autismo! posted:as someone who has spent years doing this down the road from you in Tianjin, the thing that still surprises me is how much people pay for your help or service, you then give it, and they say "ok thank you" and then do whaatever the hell they want to do that often directly contradicts and ignores what you told them to do. like, I just don't get it, how that works. still can't understand it seven years later Sheep-Goats posted:I'm not in China right now so maybe it's different but when I was there I was amazed at how willing most of the population seemed to wholeheartedly take the obvious state propaganda into their hearts as truth and how little they cared to find any outside info. Haier posted:Seeing such strong racism and hatred out of these tiny kids helped me to see how hosed this country is for the long term.
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The Great Autismo! posted:as someone who has spent years doing this down the road from you in Tianjin, the thing that still surprises me is how much people pay for your help or service, you then give it, and they say "ok thank you" and then do whaatever the hell they want to do that often directly contradicts and ignores what you told them to do. like, I just don't get it, how that works. still can't understand it seven years later This. loving this. I can't begin to describe how many times I've had to explain the meaning of what I've wrote, or even the usage of a single word in a sentence. In working with a group wherein I am the single native English speaker, I still can't go without having to slowly and patiently explain what I've written on every essay. One colleague, who graduated from Tsinghua with a degree in English, is the worst; she seems to think that her degree marks her as a master of the English language, while her writing and grasp of the language is barely better than her colleagues. I used to argue with her on every point, since she was determined to dumb down each essay as much as possible so that she could more easily understand what was being written, but now I just let them do what they want. To give you another example of how they think, consider this: I had to explain to them that when writing essays for college admissions, you have to treat every school as if they were your first choice. They think that if a school doesn't have the top 10 biology program in the nation, then you shouldn't praise their biology curriculum. It wasn't until I asked them "in a job interview do you tell your perspective boss that their company is your fifth choice?" did they finally understand. nickmeister posted:Did she grow up in America, or was she only born their for the benefit of an American passport? The latter. The parents were getting their graduate degrees in the States, and like every Chinese couple (and in my experience it pretty much is drat near every couple), they decided to pop one out for the free citizenship. The girl left when she was 2 years old, and hasn't been back to the States since.
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Well, this is a thing. So bad it's hilarious. I wished they didn't run out of Japanese just so I could laugh some more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0kg2GWVHo The  mine is open and hurt Chinese feelings from bad films they made. The Great Wall not really YUUGGHH.https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/12/29/state-media-rails-film-review-websites-giving-new-chinese-movies-poor-marks/ quote:Chinese state media have taken popular online movie review sites to task for giving three new domestic blockbusters failing marks, accusing them of trying to undermine the domestic cinema industry by manipulating ratings.
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Private Speech posted:It's not that bad, really. I suppose the liberal immigration laws make for a challenging environment when looking for work, and the price problem is weird - most things are fairly cheap by developed country standards (lot like Germany), except for housing g which is insanely expensive (and the wages aren't that high). Think London housing prices. On the other hand the average salary there makes life more affordable than Japan and the work-life balance is better than in Japan too. And when people say that everyone speaks English they mean that even native people do actually speak English with each h other most of the time, not like Europe where 'everyone' might speak a bit of English but not really. Chinese is fairly widely spoken as well though (mostly Mandarin, some Cantonese and Hakka). every white person who's talked to me about SG said three things -its loving hot -alcohol is obscenely expensive -it's unnervingly clean i assume not being an alcoholic white person living in their own filth helps keep things enjoyable and affordable Haier posted:Kid: *Turns to me "You can't speak Chinese, why are you in China? China is for Chinese!" "I'm here because I'm plunging your mom!" KillingPablo posted:This. loving this. I can't begin to describe how many times I've had to explain the meaning of what I've wrote, or even the usage of a single word in a sentence. In working with a group wherein I am the single native English speaker, I still can't go without having to slowly and patiently explain what I've written on every essay. I had to deal with fun stuff like this as a tech writer. Go through everything as a final pass, submit it for publishing, then see weird hosed up grammar changes and misspellings on the live version. Confront the guy who made rewrites to your copy and he'll argue with "yes you are a native speaker, but I think it sounds better this way"
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I'm not a tech writer, but I got roped in to editing the translations for a book celebrating my company's private university's anniversary. I sat with the guy who did the original translations and asked what the Thai meant and why he chose the English translations he had. I then altered the English to try and keep the meaning and intent but improving how it sounded while not being a word for word translation. A week later my boss got called off site to do the translations again with a different team of Thais because someone somewhere was upset with my version. They spent a week working on it, forgot to submit it, and quietly published mine.
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I got told I don't understand Chinese culture by a girl that wanted to go on a date/meeting tomorrow. Her idea was to bring some cousin or something and make me pay for both of them and myself and be some idiotic host and white social tool for them to take photos with. I wasn't having that, and I said we are just friends now, so let's meet as friends and pay for ourselves. She got upset. This entire time in China I have only paid once when going out, and it wasn't even a date because it was my skating bro, so I wasn't about to break a 4-month winning streak. Chinese relationships in a nutshell:  When asked if this is all a woman is good for, she said of course a woman can get a job too, to pay for the things she wants to buy. Nothing about helping pay for the family or shouldering any responsibility for the future of the couple or their child. She's almost 30. Date has been canceled on account she doesn't want to spend her own money.
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Stringent posted:Yeah the half life for western women who don't have a compelling reason to be here is about six months. There have been two similar articles posted here written by single white women complaining about not being able to get laid. Or was it the same person? Anyway, one was about being in Singapore and the other about Japan. The Japanese one maligns foreign men dating Japanese women as loser weeaboos and the ones in Singapore as sexists. KillingPablo posted:The latter. The parents were getting their graduate degrees in the States, and like every Chinese couple (and in my experience it pretty much is drat near every couple), they decided to pop one out for the free citizenship. The girl left when she was 2 years old, and hasn't been back to the States since. Then I can't really say that I blame her for being confused. By law she is American, but in reality she is Chinese. oohhboy posted:Well, this is a thing. So bad it's hilarious. I wished they didn't run out of Japanese just so I could laugh some more. This article is a little confusing. They're downrating Chinese films? How does that help them?
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dumb and kinda scared posted:I don't see why wouldn't someone like KL. It's a cool laid back place with friendly, educated, non-gawky locals, all sorts of fun places to relax in and everything you expect from a modern city. Given a choice between KL and Singapore I'd go with KL, it's way less strict and more chill. I agree with this massively - KL is probably my favourite city in SEA. It's cheap, reasonably clean, safe, interesting enough, the locals are unobtrusive and generally have good enough English if you get stuck. Only real issue is that alcohol is loving expensive at bars, but well it's a majority Muslim country, hardly surprising.
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I've never been on a date with someone here and not had them offer to pay for half or pay for drinks at the bar after dinner or whatever. Maybe I've been lucky/pickier but I think most people under 35 I'm friends with or gone out with have had fairly consistent expectations as people in the west would have when it comes to that. The only time I felt I got stiffed on paying the bill on a date in China was actually when I was out with a Canadian. Expectations for marriage/etc tho can be pretty different, but I don't think that's a china specific thing since dating across cultures is always gonna be p hard. Ailumao fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Dec 30, 2016 |
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Haier posted:This happened to me IRL and it is the reason I chose the glorious People's Republic, where men and women are equal in Communism under the careful, watchful eyes of Grandfather Mao. This but unironically. The gender roles in China are still pretty screwed up but compared to Korea it's incredibly progressive. And Korea's progressive compared to Japan. It's backsliding but one of the very few good things the communists did was insist on gender equality and make the society much more gender equal than is the norm in East Asia.
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nickmeister posted:There have been two similar articles posted here written by single white women complaining about not being able to get laid. Or was it the same person? Anyway, one was about being in Singapore and the other about Japan. The Japanese one maligns foreign men dating Japanese women as loser weeaboos and the ones in Singapore as sexists. The CCP is accusing online review websites users of hurting the domestic film industry by giving 1 star reviews and complaining the sites are rigged to give out one stars(With absolutely no evidence). They are crying over the audacity of the net users calling a bad movies bad instead of toeing the party line that the Chinese movie industry is good and makes movies that can match foreign influence. The whole point of having Matt Damon and Arnold was to boost their cultural soft power abroad and stroking their own egos. They utterly failed as they have no idea how to make a good movie and the censorship restrictions mean they will never make anything good that has party approval. They think pushing massive movies regardless of quality or wants of the audience means they gain Face. They have no idea why foreign movies are good. They essentially lost Face for making bad movies which is doubly bad because even the domestic audience hates them.
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Fauxtool posted:how does the chinese mind work that they can be better than the unnamed country but also aspire to be like them in every way without acknowledging that they had to have been worse in the first place? 
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Fauxtool posted:how does the chinese mind work that they can be better than the unnamed country but also aspire to be like them in every way without acknowledging that they had to have been worse in the first place? That's everybody, to be fair
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Haier posted:https://twitter.com/partidazocope/status/814585726352453633 Oh no the Face loss! Why will Ronaldo not come to China #1 when they offer him all this money?!!? More money than anyone else!
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Have some more pictures. Under the terms of the treaty ending the Opium War, the Qing (China's Manchu overlords) ceded Hong Kong Island and the southern tip of the Kowloon Peninsula to Britain. The Kowloon boundary became Boundary Street, with Britain to the south and China to the north. When the New Territories were leased in 1898, everything north of Boundary Street to the mountains became developable, and acquired the name "New Kowloon" even though they were legally part of the New Territories. You can find these foundation stones at the corners of buildings and walls in New Kowloon, marking property lines. NKIL stands for "New Kowloon Inland Lot" and the lot number.  This is a pawn shop in Sham Shui Po, traditionally the slummiest of Hong Kong's slums. Despite being right next to the MTR station exit, it's been closed and shuttered for years.  Today I went to Kowloon Walled City Park. Due to some kind of map discrepancy, the area around the original Kowloon Fort where the Chinese had an administrative outpost entered a kind of legal limbo, becoming an area neither Chinese nor British, leading to the construction of the infamous Kowloon Walled City. When the City was demolished before the Handover, they found the remnants of the original fort at its core. These plaques read South Gate (the left one) and Kowloon Walled City (the right one) and they would have marked the southern entrance to the fort's wall. The half-buried stones are wall foundations. The wall was pulled down by the Japanese during the war in order to extend the runway of Kai Tak Airport; they also blew up a stone marking the death spot (I think) of the last Song Dynasty emperor for the same reason. Some more info on the postwar Walled City that doesn't exist anymore: http://cityofdarkness.co.uk/category/the_city/  At the heart of the original Walled City is the yamen, or administrative office where the magistrate would have held court, so to speak. On either side of the present building are these cannons stamped "seventh year of the Daoguang Emperor" so they would have been cast around 1827. The yamen is undergoing renovation so I didn't take a pic of it, sorry guys.  After the Qing left in 1898, the garrison was abandoned, and various groups used the buildings. The main building was turned into a house for the poor (alms house). The building received a donation from Aw Boon Haw, whose family got super rich by selling liniment called "Tiger Balm" (I dunno maybe people used to be really sore). There used to be a real Hong Kong style amusement park called Tiger Balm Gardens run by this guy's foundation. More info here! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aw_Boon_Haw
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KillingPablo posted:This. loving this. I can't begin to describe how many times I've had to explain the meaning of what I've wrote, or even the usage of a single word in a sentence. In working with a group wherein I am the single native English speaker, I still can't go without having to slowly and patiently explain what I've written on every essay. One colleague, who graduated from Tsinghua with a degree in English, is the worst; she seems to think that her degree marks her as a master of the English language, while her writing and grasp of the language is barely better than her colleagues. I used to argue with her on every point, since she was determined to dumb down each essay as much as possible so that she could more easily understand what was being written, but now I just let them do what they want. instead of poorly made in china, we should write poorly educated in china i have to deal with parents a lot more, which is even more infuriating, because they are under the impression that because they are paying for the service, they are the ones that should be making the final decision, and that doesn't work well when they've already decided what the final decision is going to be before they even listen to you. for example, take kid A, who showed up at our company in July after they graduated HS. they had bombed the gaokao, so the parents decided to send the kid to the states, because they thought it would be easier. i don't know why parents think that the USA will be easier than China, considering American universities are in a foreign language for starters, and require a different skill set that kids in china don't get a lot of experience with. either way, i met with the kid, gave him the run through, and suggested he take two years of foundation classes and meetings every day, and then if he wanted to do a year of college classes before he went to the usa, we could probably get 4 or 5 AP exams done. and the mom was like "well, he needs to go next year", and i said "we could probably find some bum college for him to attend next year, but he won't be ready, and he won't have the foundation to be successful" more or less, and the mom was like "well he really needs to go next year" and i later found out that the kid's parents had told everyone he was going to the usa this year, to a top 20 college, so he was going to hide at our center and get prepared before he left. so the kid worked his rear end off, and got into cal-santa cruz and iowa and michigan state, not bad schools but not what his parents wanted. he ultimately chose IU and went to IU next fall. less than two months later, i went out to the nice hot pot restaurant and i saw the kid there, he was working as a waiter. and he was like "you can't tell anyone I'm back" and i was like "dude wtf" and he was like "the classes were so hard i was failing all of them, i didn't understand anything" which is like the least surprising thing in the world if you knew his level and where he was in the educational scope of his development. it's the last time i ever saw the kid, which is a shame because he was cool, but like, if his parents had been like "ok, two years of foundation sounds great, let's do that", the kid probably could have gotten into like berkeley or michigan or something and been ready to go and get a good education, instead they were like "we told people he was successful and already going to a great school, so he has to go ASAP, so just find one for us, that way, he goes abroad, so that's a success" i've had stories like this time and time and time and time again. it's happened so much it isn't even remotely surprising. the very idea of getting the kid abroad is like the end of the success. my kid has left china, therefore, he is successful. it's not "my kid is going to the united states to succeed in college and get a world class education", it's "my kid has gone to the united states, so he's succeed". it's weird. i try to explain this to people and they just don't get it. like the idea of failing out of college in the united states never cross anyone's mind. i guess that's because people don't fail out of chinese colleges, in china the high school and the gaokao are the super difficult part, and the colleges are a joke. it's a bit different in the USA, but a lot of parents don't care or even bother to think that things may be vastly different in the USA. the kids usually get it. the parents are embarrassingly clueless.
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for as clueless the parents are, imagine them giving dating advice or trying to set up their children on dates in a modern world that is so different from what they grew up in.
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Potrzebie posted:Oh no the Face loss! On the one hand, he get's 100m Euro a year, on the other hand, complete loss of dignity. 
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LentThem posted:i assume not being an alcoholic white person living in their own filth helps keep things enjoyable and affordable that already excludes most of us
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quote:On May 20, 1989, British Ambassador to China Alan Donald sent a telegram to London saying he had lunch with American sinologist Stuart Schram.  https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/12/30/200-dead-could-bring-20-years-of-peace-ex-china-leader-deng-said-ahead-of-tiananmen-massacre/
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That's a good quote. Say what you want about the CCP but they're a very quotable group.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:That's a good quote. Say what you want about the CCP but they're a very quotable group. nah Deng Xiaoping was the only that had a way with words, the rest of them were poo poo.
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