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Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED


BB players are like TF2 sniper players, aren't they?

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dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

They throw jars of urine at everyone?

Bitter Beard
Sep 11, 2001

I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing!!

rex rabidorum vires posted:

Going to suggest German cruisers. Excellent range and nice concealability with solid hydro. Also maybe the Brits, although I hear the t5 grind is a bit draining, but it might be improved by having a solid CV player backing you up.

This is working well with German Cruisers, my CV player is 9 and isn't the greatest but trying to train him up and his younger brother in co-op battles so they know what to do and how to do it.

Thanks for the post!

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Heartcatch posted:

They throw jars of urine at everyone?

Checks out

marxismftw
Apr 16, 2010

After many trials and tribulations, I've come to believe that the hipper is a good ship.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

marxismftw posted:

After many trials and tribulations, I've come to believe that the hipper is a good ship.

Tell me how to do. I pulled Prinz Eugen out of a box.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Of course the 24hours of Premium will keep me at home tonight haha.

marxismftw
Apr 16, 2010

Vengarr posted:

Tell me how to do. I pulled Prinz Eugen out of a box.

Use AP, get closer than you would in an atago, always shoot cruisers first starting with the most broadsided; hope that you get down-tiered.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Hipper is great, dunking on tier 8/9 battleships with AP for 6k damage a salvo never gets old, the HE is also useful, the shells have good travel time, it has hydro, good AA, and wasd hax well. I like it better than my anime atago

ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


Man the FDG is a disappointment coming from the Bismark. It just feels so squishy. Everytime I try to brawl poo poo goes south and I lose 90% of my hitpoints without doing anything then spend the rest of the match sniping at like 5k health.

Granted it's a sample size of like 10 games, but I'm still averaging 50k less damage per game with the FGD than the bismark.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Bought a Graf Spee, then opened a supercrate and got enough gold that, along with the gold from the Graf Spee bundle, I could afford a Tirpitz :toot::toot::toot:

Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED


I'm still trying to fathom how so many players can make it to tier eight and never figure out that you don't win if you let the enemy team cap all the points. :cripes:

MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC

ranbo das posted:

Man the FDG is a disappointment coming from the Bismark. It just feels so squishy. Everytime I try to brawl poo poo goes south and I lose 90% of my hitpoints without doing anything then spend the rest of the match sniping at like 5k health.

Granted it's a sample size of like 10 games, but I'm still averaging 50k less damage per game with the FGD than the bismark.

FDG doesn't seem to have any additional armor over the Bismarck and is a bigger target that turns a lot slower. The bigger guns don't seem like a noticeable upgrade. That said I haven't unlocked the 420s yet

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Warbadger posted:

Got Prinz Eugen and Indianapolis from 5 $3 crates along with some dragon flags. Surprisingly worth it.

After snagging the Saipan and Campbeltown on discount earlier, the Prinz Eugen is the last ship I can physically get from a box.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
With both Tirpitz and Graf Spee, plus the ARP ships, I think I have all the premium ships I could really want anytime soon. Though I am going to grind the free ones for the Graf Spee missions cause why not.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
:frogbon:
http://i.imgur.com/NmYE7hP.gifv

Full video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6x0Wyy-z0

Vengarr posted:

Tell me how to do. I pulled Prinz Eugen out of a box.
I use both rudder shift mods to get it down to ~5.2s and WASD like a motherfucker. Mind you I don't have a CE captain for it so my concealment sucks anyway even with the concealment module.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

Insert name here posted:

:frogbon:
http://i.imgur.com/NmYE7hP.gifv

Full video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6x0Wyy-z0

I use both rudder shift mods to get it down to ~5.2s and WASD like a motherfucker. Mind you I don't have a CE captain for it so my concealment sucks anyway even with the concealment module.

Haha christ that Arizona. Pubbies never cease to amaze. I'm sure the Farragut was losing his mind over how stupid the Arizona played that, while the Arizona probably bitched about his team.

JacksLibido
Jul 21, 2004

Sperglord Actual posted:

I'm still trying to fathom how so many players can make it to tier eight and never figure out that you don't win if you let the enemy team cap all the points. :cripes:

TBH it's a rare game where early control of points actually determines a win or loss for me. 9/10 it's some jackass screaming about capping points while the rest of us clear out the enemy team, then back cap when the last DD plays ninja then we win.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

:pwn:

Jack_tripper
Jun 7, 2009

BIG HEADLINE posted:

After snagging the Saipan and Campbeltown on discount earlier, the Prinz Eugen is the last ship I can physically get from a box.

before snagging the saipan and campbeltown earlier, the prinz eugen was still the last ship you could have gotten from a box

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013

Kiffetastic posted:

I almost missed it, but that Santa box thing is real.

20x 3$ boxes.

Marblehead
Anshan
Ishizuchi
Emden
Last box.. Tirpitz

Don't miss that Santa box train while it's choo choo'in through!

20 3€ box got me a Warspite, 80 dragon flags, 200 ish equal speed charlie flags and hundreds of camo...

Timmy Horsey
Dec 13, 2012



Krogort posted:

20 3€ box got me a Warspite, 80 dragon flags, 200 ish equal speed charlie flags and hundreds of camo...

I did 10 $3 boxes yesterday and all I got was 2000 Doubloons, 150 XP Flags, lots of camo, and a... Emden :smithicide:

Soup Inspector
Jun 5, 2013

Timmy Horsey posted:

I did 10 $3 boxes yesterday and all I got was 2000 Doubloons, 150 XP Flags, lots of camo, and a... Emden :smithicide:

My goondolences. At least the Emden is a fairly amusing time waster (you poo poo out so much HE and AP that everything just wilts under the barrage).

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008





:rms:

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQHTyNxp-4g

Notser talks about the 0.6.0:

HEAP wrecks DDs immensely, Fire Prevention massively helps them against fire, and he opted not to use radio detection even though he said it feels OP so he could stack more lower level poo poo.

Oh and he makes a good point: two spotter planes could massively increase the ability to detect torpedoes.

Blindeye fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Dec 31, 2016

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

I can't wait for the next ranked season. Everything is going to be so hosed up.

Magni
Apr 29, 2009

Blindeye posted:

HEAP wrecks DDs immensely,

Didn't appear to make any difference at all. Normal battleship HE will already penetrate DDs on almost every hit.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
It might make some difference with bow-on battleships. I kind of want to see tests on that.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Blindeye posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQHTyNxp-4g

Notser talks about the 0.6.0:

HEAP wrecks DDs immensely, Fire Prevention massively helps them against fire, and he opted not to use radio detection even though he said it feels OP so he could stack more lower level poo poo.

Oh and he makes a good point: two spotter planes could massively increase the ability to detect torpedoes.

There is one slight issue in that analysis, and it involves HEAP.

HEAP does literally nothing for battleship main battery HE shells against destroyers in 99.99% of cases, except make it mildly less effective (due to lower fire chance). HE shells already have a penetration value, which is 1/6 of their caliber (or 1/4 for German battleships because reasons). That means a 410 mm gun on Nagato or up for the IJN tree already penetrates 68 mm of armor - and if you go look at the destroyer armor values, only two destroyers even breach 20 mm of armor on any of their facings: Gearing with 21 mm of armor, and the imaginary Khabarovsk with its loving completely unfeasible 50 mm of armor. So unless you expect your battleship to be shooting at heavily angled Khabarovsk belt armor a lot, it does absolutely nothing against destroyers. It DOES let German battleships citadel many cruisers with HE, but that's a different matter. Note that HEAP doesn't do much for secondaries against destroyers either, as most HE secondaries at the relevant tiers are 127mm+, which again means they already have 21 mm of armor penetration, and a +25% increase is not terribly relevant for them.

Most of the other points are good, and yes, Catapult Direction is just one more in the slew of destroyer nerfs in this new skill tree.

Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 31, 2016

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!
I just realized this might be a huge buff to the Dunkerque since my main issue with it is the insta-BBQ it gets.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Blindeye posted:

I just realized this might be a huge buff to the Dunkerque since my main issue with it is the insta-BBQ it gets.

I wonder if HEAP affects the Dunkerque shells in a good way. I'll have to calculate.

EDIT: So it goes from 55mm to 68mm. I'm going to have to check, but I don't think that will make too much of a difference.

wdarkk fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Dec 31, 2016

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

wdarkk posted:

It might make some difference with bow-on battleships. I kind of want to see tests on that.

Out of the issues I've seen I would really like to see that meta die more than anything else. I figure it's a combination of horizontal spread being way more of an issue than it should be and the armor angling mechanics being a bit too generous. Maybe they should add penalties for things like your bow getting blown to scrap causing your ship to handle like a barge while flooding itself or the bridge eating a high explosive shell that murders the entire command crew. Maybe adding some stuff like that would allow cruisers and even DD's to do something useful to heavier ships without letting them burn down the HP (figuratively or literally).

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Dec 31, 2016

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN
3 games. 3 losses. Top XP in every game. Had a pub flat out tell me he didn't care about trying to win/cap. He just liked to sail around and shoot things :suicide:

Edit: Also every single game has had 2 CVs. If there was a way I could play Wargaming more money to have a non-CV mode I absolutely would. If your CV player is bad they can straight up lose you a game and there is literally nothing you can do about it :(

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

I like to do all 3.

Redeye Flight
Mar 26, 2010

God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?
One thing I'm not clear on--are the gift ships from Christmas Convoys coming with port slots, too?

Tier 6 is a good tier, so I'll probably keep most of them even if they don't, but if they DO, that's icing on the cake.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN
Used some of the doubloons I acquired from gift boxes to get an Atlanta. Boat is hilarious.

AfroSquirrel
Sep 3, 2011

So I have about 1200 doubloons from my few santa crates. Is there any better way to spend them than on a Konig Albert?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Bought 12 $3 crates, got a ton of flags, about 2000 doubloons, an Emden and an Arizona. Not too bad.

OSad
Feb 29, 2012
Wargaming should really put the Scharnhorst in the German tech tree. Not so it's easier to buy, but so that you can actually look at the armor layout of the thing without having to buy it.

It's easy to see why the ship has a near-53% winrate. I was playing with Astroniomix and pushedback when I saw a New Mexico shotgun an angled one at point-blank range and do zero damage... because he shot the angled turtleback side of the thing. Hell, even I don't know where to shoot an angled one, save for the superstructure or maybe the rear end/front at a good angle? If it's really like a Gneisenau, you just aim for the strip of 45mm between the superstructure and the citadel if it has one. But I'm lucky that the ones I get to shoot are always broadside-on so I usually always do good damage. But the average player has no way of knowing where to shoot them, because you can't see the armor layout, because the drat ship isn't in the shop so you can't preview it.

Seriously, this isn't some sort of cyka superweapon that you can't get anymore, if not for sheer dumb luck and Flamu tears like the Nikolai. This is just a normal premium any dude can get their hands on. It's like a Tirpitz, but the Tirpitz is actually on the tech tree but the Scharnhorst isn't. What gives?


P.S.: Mark 15's or Mark 11's Mark 12's on the Mahan? The Mark 15's have extra range but you really sacrifice that speed to get it... the Mark 11's Mark 12's just cut through the water so fast.

OSad fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 31, 2016

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Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




OSad posted:

But the average player has no way of knowing where to shoot them, because you can't see the armor layout, because the drat ship isn't in the shop so you can't preview it.

I think you're vastly overestimating the amount of preparation the average player puts into the game.

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