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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Man I was so disappointed when the very first scene of Episode II started and there was no Captain Panaka. I thought that dude was great, like, I had his action figure and everything. Turns out that gunfight in the Palace was probably the most interesting thing that ever happened to him. Panaka became a doctor and was blown up in a different explosion.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Man I was so disappointed when the very first scene of Episode II started and there was no Captain Panaka. I thought that dude was great, like, I had his action figure and everything. Turns out that gunfight in the Palace was probably the most interesting thing that ever happened to him. Maybe he was three days from retirement when TPM began.
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anyway since SMG got probated for loving sonic the hedgehog in the eyes it's time to post star wars fanfic!!! http://archiveofourown.org/works/5798602?view_full_work=true it's the extremely unsubtle subtext of the prequels attached to a fuckable character so internet people care about it!!! PYF star wars fanfic (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) e: my favourite star wars fanfic is getting probated ungulateman fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Mods love Sonic who knew?
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ungulateman posted:anyway since SMG got probated for loving sonic the hedgehog in the eyes it's time to post star wars fanfic!!! That post was so funny I'm taking him off my ignore list.
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 I'm going to be handing out longer probations for shitposting in this thread If you shitpost in this thread, you're going to be getting probations longer than 6 hours. If you post about things that aren't Star Wars (Sonic) without a specific reason of how they relate to Star Wars, you're going to get a probation longer than 6 hours. If you complain about how a poster has a different opinion than you and don't post about Star Wars, you're going to get a probation longer than 6 hours. Talk about Star Wars and stop making this thread a flaming dumpster pile.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Man I was so disappointed when the very first scene of Episode II started and there was no Captain Panaka. I thought that dude was great, like, I had his action figure and everything. Turns out that gunfight in the Palace was probably the most interesting thing that ever happened to him. Actually, Panaka was the one who told Palpatine about Anakin and Padme's relationship. He ended up being a pretty well-paid Imperial officer.
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Jack Gladney posted:Serious question: every star wars movie since star wars has been all white except one of the men is black and all male except one of the white people is a woman. How does the Force Awakens fitting this pattern exactly make it less white or male than a movie from 40 years earlier? Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith feature a/several characters played by a Maori actor, and Poe Dameron would pass as Latino if he weren't fictional.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Actually, Panaka was the one who told Palpatine about Anakin and Padme's relationship. He ended up being a pretty well-paid Imperial officer. Pretty sure he lived through the ending of the Empire as well. Wait...Snoke saw the rise and fall of the Empire...as did Panaka...hmmm.
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Jack Gladney posted:Serious question: every star wars movie since star wars has been all white except one of the men is black and all male except one of the white people is a woman. How does the Force Awakens fitting this pattern exactly make it less white or male than a movie from 40 years earlier? That's not even true, though. In TPM has both Amidala and Shmee Skywalker, for example. If we're talking actors, not characters, there's both Ahmed Best and Samuel L Jackson.
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GonSmithe posted:
Thank you for protecting us from harmful posts about chili dogs.
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Veshpo posted:Thank you for protecting us from harmful posts about chili dogs. I don't like chilidogs, they're salty, and messy, and they make me fart.
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The Sonic post was about Star Wars. TFA's extremely chaste approach to sex, love and romance is strange and cartoonish coming from Lucas' films.
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sassassin posted:The Sonic post was about Star Wars. TFA's extremely chaste approach to sex, love and romance is strange and cartoonish coming from Lucas' films. Unless your movie is very gay, it's hard to have romance in an ensemble adventure story when all but one character is a man (Carrie Fisher is in like two scenes). The other star wars sequels have this problem too, insofar as Luke Skywalker is a sexless eunuch once Leia and Han pair off in Empire.
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Jack Gladney posted:Unless your movie is very gay, it's hard to have romance in an ensemble adventure story when all but one character is a man (Carrie Fisher is in like two scenes). The other star wars sequels have this problem too, insofar as Luke Skywalker is a sexless eunuch once Leia and Han pair off in Empire. But the reason this whole discussion came about was from people pointing out the homoerotic vibes between Finn and Poe. Anyone know if the idea of Jedi as celibate monks was concieved while Lucas was working on the original trilogy? It always struck me as a later addition, but I don't know either way.
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Lord Krangdar posted:But the reason this whole discussion came about was from people pointing out the homoerotic vibes between Finn and Poe. Well, both of the Jedi Masters in the OT are old men living in seclusion, so draw your own conclusions
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Zoran posted:Well, both of the Jedi Masters in the OT are old men living in seclusion, so draw your own conclusions They're hiding in exile, though. It makes sense not to get too close to anyone else when you're a wanted man.
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Lord Krangdar posted:But the reason this whole discussion came about was from people pointing out the homoerotic vibes between Finn and Poe. the force always had a connection to buddhism so i imagine it was probably at least on the fringes of lucas's mind
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Just saw A Star Wars Story The religious aspect was fascinating. I thought the "in universe" logic was rigorous and made sense. Like the mon calarmi admiral just loving took his fleet to beach planet to fight because he wanted to . Also liked felicity's climb to enlightenment. And Vader in close quarters combat is loving terrifying .
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I liked that the Mon Cal general said "That Star Destroyer is disabled!", thus confirming that his species has a predisposition to stating the obvious.
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I loved the pilots story and how his recruitment and pain was never really exposited. But that it shows that Mads was always working behind the scenes.
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theflyingexecutive posted:I hope this is a deliberate nod to the fact that the set dressing for the Death Star controls came from old broadcast TV stations. I remember my dad taking me to work and joyfully pointing out the Death Star controls to me. euphronius posted:I thought the "in universe" logic was rigorous and made sense. Like the mon calarmi admiral just loving took his fleet to beach planet to fight because he wanted to . That was excellent. The rebellion hadn't unified, so there was no way for the leaders to jointly send their troops into war. So they individually send their troops into war. On a separate note, the visual design in this film was on point. The fishmen looked amazing.
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sassassin posted:The Sonic post was about Star Wars. TFA's extremely chaste approach to sex, love and romance is strange and cartoonish coming from Lucas' films. If Rey turns out to be Luke's, I wonder if Mark Hamill was thinking how fast he could get his unborn granddaughter blended while shooting those scenes. http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/star-wars-mark-hamill-nathan-hamill-abortion-coercion quote:... I hope she named the baby Carrie.
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Vader's Lava temple was completely ridiculous and perfect.
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euphronius posted:Vader's Lava temple was completely ridiculous and perfect. It's exactly where Vader would spend his furloughs, just hanging out with his goofy spiritual advisers and getting pissed at Obi-Wan and the entire universe every time he looks out the window. Or viewscreen I guess since there are no windows.
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General Dog posted:It's exactly where Vader would spend his furloughs, just hanging out with his goofy spiritual advisers and getting pissed at Obi-Wan and the entire universe every time he looks out the window. Or viewscreen I guess since there are no windows. He makes his butler dress up as his boss, which is the most ludicrously petty thing imaginable. I was a big fan of the whole thing.
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Vader seemed... bored. I guess once the Jedi were all dead, his life was probably pretty boring until the rebellion heated up and he learned his kids were alive.
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GonSmithe posted:
In fairness the post you're referring to was directly comparing the romance in The Force Awakens to Sonic the Hedghog characters. It was a good and funny post.
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euphronius posted:Vader in close quarters combat is loving terrifying . That was a sweet scene. I like that it walks the line of making Vader fearsome without overshadowing how he fights Obi Wan in ANH too much, but also in keeping with how he fights Luke in ESB. I was laughing really hard at the Empire's tank that they had in Jedha. I was thinking shouldn't it be a hover tank or something? It was just an obviously dressed up regular rear end tank - an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvis_Stormer it turns out. But looking into it the Imperial "TX-225 GAVw "Occupier" combat assault tank" per Wookiepedia was initially going to be a hover tank but they changed it to a standard tank during production just in case the street fighting in occupied Iraq/Afghanistan allusion wasn't obvious enough.
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FuturePastNow posted:Vader seemed... bored. I guess once the Jedi were all dead, his life was probably pretty boring until the rebellion heated up and he learned his kids were alive. Does he just chill in that tube when he's not at work? He should get one with wheels so he can watch tv or whatever. Also I imagine he kept that dude waiting for like an hour while he put on his whole formal suit and cape just to have a five-minute talk.
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Idahoant posted:That was a sweet scene. I like that it walks the line of making Vader fearsome without overshadowing how he fights Obi Wan in ANH too much, but also in keeping with how he fights Luke in ESB. That scene was the most "you are to think the USA is the empire" scene so it made sense it looked like a Gulf war tank. Then they went the Rebels are ww2 vets storming a pacific atoll so mixed war imagery abounded!
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General Dog posted:It's exactly where Vader would spend his furloughs, just hanging out with his goofy spiritual advisers and getting pissed at Obi-Wan and the entire universe every time he looks out the window. Or viewscreen I guess since there are no windows. And no railings. OF course. I also liked how Felicity and captain ... mexican accent ... had to manipulate the data with robot arms just like k2? was manipulating data. Nice touch.
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Jack Gladney posted:Does he just chill in that tube when he's not at work? He should get one with wheels so he can watch tv or whatever. Also I imagine he kept that dude waiting for like an hour while he put on his whole formal suit and cape just to have a five-minute talk. His character makes a lot of sense when you consider he's in agony 24-7 and probably requires weeks of recovery every time he has to put on the suit and go deal with some leftover Jedi or whatever poo poo the Rebels are stirring up.
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euphronius posted:That scene was the most "you are to think the USA is the empire" scene so it made sense it looked like a Gulf war tank. Then they went the Rebels are ww2 vets storming a pacific atoll so mixed war imagery abounded! In fairness, this is so incredibly George Lucas that only a Star Wars Fan like Gareth Edwards could do it. Pretty much all the battle scenes in the OT are shot to resemble WW2 serial drama despite the fairly unambiguous Vietnam War references, and the PT uses Desert Storm, chess, urban terror and Crusade imagery depending on what mood it's trying to communicate.
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Not an especially insightful observation, but Saw's alien first lieutenant is loving sick. I love that guy.
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Yeah the death star being a giant lightsaber is a fuckin amazing metaphor ("The rebelling systems will fall in line before the force of our It does raise an interesting question about why it's green, though. Evil lightsabers are red, good lightsabers are blue. Purple lightsabers tread the line in between, but green lightsabers seem to exist outside of this dichotomy entirely. Is a green laser the diegetic result from shoving crystals into a machine without any conception of the Force as being Light/Dark (presuming the engineers who built the laser don't believe in the Force at all)? Because that raises some super interesting questions about the characters we see with green sabers (the relevant ones being Qui-Gon, Yoda, and ROTJ Luke). And it raises EVEN MORE interesting questions about the meaning of the Death Star, if it's 'Beyond Good and Evil' (or at least 'Jedi and Sith', which in a way it already was). It also makes Starkiller Base even more explicitly 'THIS IS A DEATH STAR' because it's eating suns for the same power source that the Death Star used (rather than being some sort of weird eco-terrorist 'solar-powered' metaphor or something). e: actually, now that i think about it, red/blue/green make up the colours of light, so green lightsabers metaphorically exist outside of the dichotomy of the Jedi and Sith by being part of the same spectrum, but separate from the more morally loaded colours. ungulateman fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Just had a friend tell me he went into Rogue One expecting some kind of light hearted space romp for the Death Star plans and was blown away that it ended in the main cast dying and incredibly entertained by its darker tone. I literally have no idea how he came to that initial idea. I kind of wish that Rogue One had advertised itself as a feel good family fun movie though. Also he only started to scrutinize CGI Tarken when it dawned on him that Cushing had to be dead. He wasn't sure and needed to double check after the movie.
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ungulateman posted:e: actually, now that i think about it, red/blue/green make up the colours of light, so green lightsabers metaphorically exist outside of the dichotomy of the Jedi and Sith by being part of the same spectrum, but separate from the more morally loaded colours. Out of curiosity, how did you decide that blue was the morally-loaded "good" color and green the "neutral"? The Jedi seemed to use them in about equal numbers.
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Powered Descent posted:Out of curiosity, how did you decide that blue was the morally-loaded "good" color and green the "neutral"? The Jedi seemed to use them in about equal numbers. In ANH and ESB, when the conflict is at least ostensibly 'good vs evil', it's a clash of blue and red sabers. Of course, this conflict isn't truly good and evil - it's Jedi and Sith, the PT shows us the Jedi as an institution are pretty lovely, and ROTJ shows us the real Light Side of the Force is to cast aside our lightsabers entirely. More to the point, green being morally "good" and blue being "neutral" contradicts a lot of powerful imagery, unless you're going for a full-on fascist reading where the Empire are the good guys because the Death Star shoots "good" lasers. Obi-Wan is blatantly partisan in favour of the Republic and the Jedi Order in all six films and Mace Windu's purple blade is representative of his walking the precipice between Jedi orthodoxy and Sith orthodoxy (and that obviously is reliant on purple being red and blue mixed together). Compare to the green saber-wielders - Qui-Gon, who's the apprentice of a Sith Lord but understands the will of the Force better than any of the Jedi Order. Yoda, who falls under the sway of the Dark Side at the end of AOTC, but realises his errors and retreats to Dagobah to meditate on the real purpose of the Jedi. And Luke in ROTJ, who drifts dangerously close to failing just like his father did, but (depending on interpretation) redeems himself, Darth Vader, brings balance to the Force, and/or destroys the entire dichotomy of 'Light Side'/'Dark Side' when he throws aside his blade. To quote Bongo Bill and SMG from the previous thread: "Some people think that Star Wars is a series where the bad guys have red lightsabers and the good guys have blue lightsabers. This is wrong. Star Wars is a series where the bad guys have red lightsabers and the good guys have green lightsabers." "Star Wars is a series where the good guys use nothing, and die." e: it's telling that TFA features a lot of contrasting red and blue but almost no green - the characters have reverted to a pre-ROTJ conception of the Force being 'good' and 'evil', failed to learn the lessons of either Luke or Darth Vader, and are reaching back to a past that can't be recreated (either the Republic, which we see consumed by a red(!) hand, or the Empire, whose remnants are ruled by a loving giant ghost). ungulateman fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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