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Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPp3CKTf-g

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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Root Bear posted:

Something, something, lowered suspension...



Your's, or did you happen across this and stopped to take a picture?

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Someone just posted this in one of my jeep fb groups. Most impressive d35 failure I have ever seen.

E: you can tell they slid a ways when the wheels came off, that skidmark is from the diff and diff cover on the asphalt :lol:

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


stance's logical conclusion

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Dana 30 failure? Ken has said, IIRC, nothing smaller than 45 or 60 due to the c-clip design.

Root Bear
Nov 15, 2004

DARKEST SKETCH

Geoj posted:

Your's, or did you happen across this and stopped to take a picture?

Sorry, I should've specified. This was originally posted in a Facebook car group, the OP hasn't posted anything else yet.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

Dana 30 failure? Ken has said, IIRC, nothing smaller than 45 or 60 due to the c-clip design.

D30s are alright as a front axle for up to 31s or so stock locked, 33s or so stock unlocked, 33s or so locked with good alloy shafts. More than that is rolling the dice unless your terrain is substantially more grippy than ours.

35 rears are garbage. End of story.

44 rears are great for up to 35s or so. Fronts are the same, but cost about as much to build as a 60 so either buy someone else's built already at a discount (because they are tired of breaking it and need money to build their newly acquired 60) or just build a 60.

60s, 70s, 80s, and 14 bolts are all good for 37s or bigger up into the 50-54" range depending on how many bling parts you put inside.

All this is assuming stock power and muddy rocky eastern/pnw terrain as well as average weight and traction offroad tires. If you are in the desert you can get away with more usually. If you have a lot more under the hood, a heavy right foot, heavy tires/wheels, and/or deeper gearing, get used to breaking poo poo more.

That is a 35 rear in the picture. They are great for driving home from buying your jeep, pavement with normal driving (a friend blew up his 35 peeling out of his driveway in a stock XJ a while ago...), and keeping your jeep off the ground while you go buy a better axle.

DefaultPeanut
Nov 4, 2006
What's not to like?
Can confirm. Stock Dana 35 rear ate itself with 235/70/R16's after 120k km. My Dana 44A has been chugging along with 285/75/16's for the last 90K km, and for however long it was like that before I bought it. The clutch pack was a little weak, and that has been the only thing I have replaced.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

A friend had a 35 grenade after ~2 years and 80k miles on 35" tires with 4.88 gears. It was only surprising because it'd never even seen a gravel road, let alone actual off-road use.

Friends don't let friends run Dana 35s.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Friends don't friends buy jeeps. :colbert:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Friends don't friends buy jeeps. :colbert:

I talked him out of lifting his new Z71 Colorado. He was actually in awe of how comfortable a vehicle-that-isn't-a-loving-lifted-4WD-Wrangler is to drive long highway trips in. I pointed out that for how he uses his truck (mall crawling,) lifting it and putting 33s on it will literally make it a worse truck in every imaginable way.

I think I got through to him. :3:

madjack
Dec 31, 2013

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Friends don't friends buy jeeps. :colbert:

what about avalanches?

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

madjack posted:

what about avalanches?

or ridgelines

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Friends don't friends buy non solid axle jeeps. :colbert:

Fixed that for you. Jeeps suck as much as any other make and model and has just as many flaws. But they look good sound good and if taken care of are a blast to drive. Which could be said for 75% of all cars.

Edit: and avalanches have such terrible problems I'm sorry you got attached to one.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

cursedshitbox posted:

or ridgelines

Ridgelines are probably the perfect truck/Jeep for people who never push any of the offroad function buttons in their Rubicon. Not that anyone here qualifies, though.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

DJ Commie posted:

Ridgelines are probably the perfect truck/Jeep for people who never push any of the offroad function buttons in their Rubicon. Not that anyone here qualifies, though.

Didn't they have an issue the spark plug holes being too shallow and blowing out the plugs?

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

CommieGIR posted:

Didn't they have an issue the spark plug holes being too shallow and blowing out the plugs?

Also have issues with exhaust valves getting burnt up and causing issues.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


I have an issue with the spare being under the load floor. Murphy's law says I'll have a ton of bricks in the bed when I get a flat.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Goober Peas posted:

I have an issue with the spare being under the load floor. Murphy's law says I'll have a ton of bricks in the bed when I get a flat.

I don't think you're supposed to carry a load in that bed anyways.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Friends don't friends buy jeeps. :colbert:

You're right, you make them buy a FZJ80.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Ridgelines are great if you are a suburban dad with 2.5 kids who actually needs a minivan that can blow through a snowplow berm occasionally and sometimes needs a load of bark mulch or furnace pellets. AKA 90% of what people use actual trucks for.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


madjack posted:

what about avalanches?

Look here you kangaroo fuckin' koala diddler...

clam ache posted:

Edit: and avalanches have such terrible problems I'm sorry you got attached to one.

Eh, I beat on that effectively stock 2wd avalanche harder offroad than most people would beat on a raptor or fully offroad setup jeep and outside of a sheared control arm bolt, a blown transmission (that never had a fluid change or filter swap service for 110k miles) and a small fire at 140k miles, it was a decent truck that did truck things pretty well. The reasons I got rid of it would still be there if it was a standard silverado. The only avalanche specific problems were the exterior plastics looking like poo poo, but $30-40 in paint would have fixed that. I was just lazy and didn't care that much.

Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jan 2, 2017

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Look here you kangaroo fuckin' koala diddler...


Eh, I beat on that effectively stock 2wd avalanche harder offroad than most people would beat on a raptor or fully offroad setup jeep and outside of a sheared control arm bolt, a blown transmission (that never had a fluid change or filter swap service for 110k miles) and a small fire at 140k miles, it was a decent truck that did truck things pretty well. The reasons I got rid of it would still be there if it was a standard silverado. The only avalanche specific problems were the exterior plastics looking like poo poo, but $30-40 in paint would have fixed that. I was just lazy and didn't care that much.

Well consider yourself very lucky the rear window didn't leak in rain. I had many a customer complain of this. Also they have all the other Chevy problems of that era. But I say this and still troll Craigslist for a 5.3 rwd shortbed.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


It really only seemed to be an issue from the first year or two, and even then it seemed overblown. I personally never had an issue with leakage despite 14 years and 2 years in florida, meaning hell for rubber seals and a tendancy for torrential rains. Everything burned instead. Nobody I've known here in florida has had an issue with a leaking midgate. Owners club forums had very few instances of someone with leaks. :iiam:

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
Shortbed pickups are almost as much of an affront to truck-kind as cabs with more than one row of seating and 'storage space' behind the bench seat. :colbert:

Bring back the longbed regular cab pickup truck, North America. :argh:

FatCow
Apr 22, 2002
I MAP THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLE
Regular cab trucks are the absolute worst.

I have a crew cab short bed truck with a cap and it's perfect.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Fermented Tinal posted:

Shortbed pickups are almost as much of an affront to truck-kind as cabs with more than one row of seating and 'storage space' behind the bench seat. :colbert:

Bring back the longbed regular cab pickup truck, North America. :argh:

Long as the bed is at least 4' wide and 6' long I can easily haul 8' lumber and sheet goods home with it, good enough for me. If the bed is shorter/narrower than that I don't see the point though, and this does mean I end up doing outlandish things when my lumber is over 8' like the time I hauled home 14 16' 2x12s on the roof of an XJ. That was sketchy as gently caress and I was very glad I only had like 3 miles to go.

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Fermented Tinal posted:

Shortbed pickups are almost as much of an affront to truck-kind as cabs with more than one row of seating and 'storage space' behind the bench seat. :colbert:

Bring back the longbed regular cab pickup truck, North America. :argh:

But I like the look of a low shortbed that isn't flaire side. The trucks I'm looking for are gonna be low loud and fast and only look like a truck. I never said I wanted a truck for truck stuff.

And my experience with those leaks is on the escalade version and people who tortured the old caddillac mechanic at my shop with them. And I doubt very many of these older people used or owned a computer at the time.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

FatCow posted:

Regular cab trucks are the absolute worst.

I have a crew cab short bed truck with a cap and it's perfect.

RCSB trucks are the best for turning into absurd drag strip beasts.

Edit: clam ache gets it.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Way better for offroad use on narrow twisty trails, too.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
My dream truck is a late 60s GM truck with a big block.

When I was a kid/early teens, there was a guy who went to the drag strip with a RCSB 69 chevy. It was his first truck, was street legal and full weight.

He ran low 9s all motor, and it shook the loving tower harder than any pro mod or backhalf car.

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

iwentdoodie posted:

My dream truck is a late 60s GM truck with a big block.

When I was a kid/early teens, there was a guy who went to the drag strip with a RCSB 69 chevy. It was his first truck, was street legal and full weight.

He ran low 9s all motor, and it shook the loving tower harder than any pro mod or backhalf car.

Growing up my dad's shop truck was an80s c30 with the dual rear tires some insanely over bored motor and a a giant trucker almost boso shifter. Never in my life have I been thrown back into the seat so many times. The mechanic at his work spent a lot of time and the boss's money making that truck fast. We would leave foxbodys at the line and they couldn't catch up. It ate many cars of the time that were "fast". Early 90s cars couldn't keep up with that thing.

Edit: that and my grandfather owning a 95 1500 are what have my love of Chevy trucks making me fix them and there bastard engineer designed gently caress ups...abs module under the car in a spot designed to catch salt.....

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Fermented Tinal posted:

Shortbed pickups are almost as much of an affront to truck-kind as cabs with more than one row of seating and 'storage space' behind the bench seat. :colbert:

Bring back the longbed regular cab pickup truck, North America. :argh:
How you doing?


FatCow posted:

Regular cab trucks are the absolute worst.

I have a crew cab short bed truck with a cap and it's perfect.
Girlfriend drives a crew cab short bed Tacoma. It's a great daily driver (MPG aside) but isn't a very good truck and we end up using mine anytime we want to do anything more than hauling a couple bags of trash to the dump.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

NitroSpazzz posted:

Girlfriend drives a crew cab short bed Tacoma. It's a great daily driver (MPG aside) but isn't a very good truck and we end up using mine anytime we want to do anything more than hauling a couple bags of trash to the dump.

Lots of these newer short-bed trucks are becoming slightly less functional "masculine minivans", especIally considering 9/10ths of them on the road today will never haul anything more substantial than a U-Haul sport trailer or 4 bags of mulch. Both things a minivan could do without noticing, and the minivan can fit an extra 2 kids in it.

Honda makes a minivan with a truck bed, and it's selling pretty well!


I wouldn't call it a design or mechanical failure, but maybe a lapse in sanity like a 2x4 as a jack stand.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002


:shrug:

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
In defense of the super short pickup beds, my family replaced an '01 Expedition with an '03 F-150 SuperCrew, which is basically the exact same vehicle just with a 5.5' bed where the third row seats and hatch would be. For us it was great because it could haul the quad, the dog, us kids after swimming, or anything else that either wouldn't have vertically fit or would have been too messy to put in the back of the Expedition. It was the right balance between passenger vehicle and utility for what we needed at the time.

Plus that truck was still a real truck with a ladder frame and solid rear axle, so if we needed to move something bigger we could just rent/borrow a trailer and it's all good.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

jamal posted:

Yeah FM works in town, but as soon as not really close to a transmitter or in trees or a valley or something not so much. But I removed the broken antenna entirely.

On my old '82 Supra the radio antenna was a loop embedded in the windshield. Worked perfectly, but I guess I can see why that never caught on.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


iwentdoodie posted:

My dream truck is a late 60s GM truck with a big block.

When I was a kid/early teens, there was a guy who went to the drag strip with a RCSB 69 chevy. It was his first truck, was street legal and full weight.

He ran low 9s all motor, and it shook the loving tower harder than any pro mod or backhalf car.

Buddy in high school had a '66 Chevy short-wide bed with a loving 427 in it. Cam, headers, Holley 4-barrel. Cut front springs and a manual brakes and steering. That truck was scary as hell, but man it could move. You could pretty much parallel park it by pulling up next to the spot, cranking the steering wheel over, and blipping the throttle.

Echoing what's been said, a Ridgeline is perfect for the what most truck buyers actually do with their truck, and the new model looks better.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Darchangel posted:

and the new model looks better.
vs.


The new one looks better from the back, but the old front end looked like a truck where the new one is clearly a minivan with a bed.

Of course minivan with a bed is exactly what most suburban pickup truck buyers actually need, but image is 90% of the reason that crowd buys a truck anyways so making it look like a minivan is the worst thing they could do.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

All I can see is someone eyeballed the el Camino and came up with a way to make it horribly ugly and stupid.

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