Let's Go to the Pokemon Thready Thread

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Alxprit: Feb 7, 2015; <click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!

You can just beat up the first mon and False Swipe the second one every so often. Sure, it's not as mindless, but it also doesn't take as much setup.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 21:44

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# ? May 28, 2024 18:49

Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

Mierenneuker posted:

Or you can find them on route 1 once you've got the Tauros ride. They have a low spawn rate, but you'll want to look for them anyway since they are guaranteed to have Leftovers.

tho that mystery gift munchlax is a lot more useful thanks to the moves it has

# ? Jan 2, 2017 21:49

Dehry: Aug 21, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Mystery Gift munchlax comes with a Z crystal not available in game.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 21:51

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Dehry posted:

Mystery Gift munchlax comes with a Z crystal not available in game.

A really bad Z-move though. Requires Giga Impact to use and is barely more powerful.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 21:57

brainSnakes: Jul 11, 2011; come back here

Oh, i'm not grind averse at all. Like I said, i've already successfully chained around ten shinies. i guess my point of view is that i like to have a static overworld team i never have to screw around with, so having to go to the pc to pull out a recycle bitch any time i want to chain something is the part that i'm not willing to do.

i keep track of how many things i've killed by glancing at my pp any given moment. after i've killed 15 idiots, i false swipe a new one. boom, done.

given the chains reset after 250 kills or so, that means i had to use false swipe around 16 times. we'll round up and say 20. i am willing to push a button 20 more times than was absolutely necessary for the convenience of having a single pokemon in my party who will chain anything i want, no hassle.

ditto? chained one. beldums who wanna tackle themselves to death? chained a shiny of those too, no problem.

tldr: basically what alxprit just said.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 21:57

Araxxor: Oct 20, 2012; My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Internet Kraken posted:

Golisopod is awful in VGC. First impression is useless when almost every popular meta pokemon resists it. Every single Tapu wrecks him unless he's carrying poison jab, in which case he can beat Tapu Fini. Maybe. Every other one will still kill him dead. The main thing he has over Araquanid is access to priority moves but when Tapu Lele is bumbling around that's not a huge boon.

Emergency exit is just an awful ability for a slow pokemon in doubles. Its really easy for him to end up doing nothing because he gets hit for half his HP and runs off before getting a move off. He'd probably do best in a Trick Room team but Araquanid will still outperform him there.

Golisopod just isn't a great Pokemon in any format. Emergency Exit is just far too detrimental of an ability for it. It does outslow Araquanid, and is more well rounded in offenses on top of having priority, but that's all it really has going for it.

First Impression would be a good move if Bug wasn't the worst offensive type in the game.

Araquanid actually has a real usable ability, on top of having decent bulk, so I would personally go with it. It's just far easier to work with than Golisopod.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:05

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Dr. Fetus posted:

Golisopod just isn't a great Pokemon in any format. Emergency Exit is just far too detrimental of an ability for it. It does outslow Araquanid, and is more well rounded in offenses on top of having priority, but that's all it really has going for it.

First Impression would be a good move if Bug wasn't the worst offensive type in the game.

Araquanid actually has a real usable ability, on top of having decent bulk, so I would personally go with it. It's just far easier to work with than Golisopod.

Entrainment Araquanid with Golisopod battle buddy

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:17

Supremezero: Apr 28, 2013; hay gurl

Improbable Lobster posted:

Entrainment Araquanid with Golisopod battle buddy

This keeps coming up, and it's a good idea if you're using entirely new pokemon, but, uh, it's still pretty inferior to a lot of other good Water Types available. Like Mega Gyarados battle buddy, for example. Hell, even with only new pokemon, I feel like Primarina's still better.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:24

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Supremezero posted:

This keeps coming up, and it's a good idea if you're using entirely new pokemon, but, uh, it's still pretty inferior to a lot of other good Water Types available. Like Mega Gyarados battle buddy, for example. Hell, even with only new pokemon, I feel like Primarina's still better.

I'm sorry buy Gyarados isn't a giant isopod samurai friend

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:27

cancerianmoth: Oct 18, 2012

Improbable Lobster posted:

Entrainment Araquanid with Golisopod battle buddy

why not entrainment araquanid with Slaking? sure it doesn't learn any water moves until transfer but it won't get burned.

cancerianmoth fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 2, 2017

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:29

Araxxor: Oct 20, 2012; My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Improbable Lobster posted:

Entrainment Araquanid with Golisopod battle buddy

Discharge Tapu Koko says hi. Also, Pokemon with Rock Slide.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:30

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Dr. Fetus posted:

Discharge Tapu Koko says hi. Also, Pokemon with Rock Slide.

I just want to be friends with bugs

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:32

Rangpur: Dec 31, 2008

leftist heap posted:

AFAICT nobody wants Kartana at all right now, despite the fact that it's very good. Celesteela seems to be in very high demand. Hell, I can't even get a Zygarde for Kartana, which seems like it should work. I have a good 6 crappy Kartanas right now just wasting in boxes because nobody seems to want them. I haven't tried trading them for Mareanie or Castform yet though.

Well, gently caress it then. Anyone mind just swaping Celesteela for Kartana and back again? I don't need to hold onto it to complete the 'dex at least. I offer Adamant/Careful 5 IV Grimers w. Curse/Shadowsneak for your troubles.

FC: 3926-8948-4855
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Rangpur fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jan 2, 2017

# ? Jan 2, 2017 22:57

mastajake: Oct 3, 2005; My blade is unBENDING!

Rangpur posted:

Well, gently caress it then. Anyone mind just swaping Celesteela for Kartana and back again? I don't need to hold onto it to complete the 'dex at least. I offer Adamant/Careful 5 IV Grimers w. Curse/Shadowsneak for your troubles.

FC: 3926-8948-4855
IGN: Rangpur

Check your PMs.

# ? Jan 2, 2017 23:14

PSWII60: Jan 7, 2007; All the best octopodes shoot fire and ice.

Rangpur posted:

Well, gently caress it then. Anyone mind just swaping Celesteela for Kartana and back again? I don't need to hold onto it to complete the 'dex at least. I offer Adamant/Careful 5 IV Grimers w. Curse/Shadowsneak for your troubles.

FC: 3926-8948-4855
IGN: Rangpur

Hell if if those adamant 5IV grimer don't need to be re-bred and are dump special attack, I have a Celesteela I got off the GTS you can have. It's a rash nature though.

FC: 1375-8302-1020
Name is the same as on here. Let me know if you're interested. And if you are can you name the grimer Slick?

# ? Jan 2, 2017 23:38

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

Mierenneuker posted:

Or you can find them on route 1 once you've got the Tauros ride. They have a low spawn rate, but you'll want to look for them anyway since they are guaranteed to have Leftovers.

The mystery gift one has happy hour, a false swipe equivalent, and snorlium Z.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 00:10

Classtoise: Feb 11, 2008; THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

leftist heap posted:

AFAICT nobody wants Kartana at all right now, despite the fact that it's very good. Celesteela seems to be in very high demand. Hell, I can't even get a Zygarde for Kartana, which seems like it should work. I have a good 6 crappy Kartanas right now just wasting in boxes because nobody seems to want them. I haven't tried trading them for Mareanie or Castform yet though.

Best bet to get a Celesteela right now is Mareanie/Castform/etc. -> Zygarde -> Celesteela probably.

Celesteela was all over the loving VGC Regionals, but Kartana hasn't made a huge splash yet (because "Skarmory but better" was way easier to use)

It's like Tapu Fini, once people realize you can't be burned or can Swagger your own teammates it'll probably see way more use and value on GTS.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:17

Starsnostars: Jan 17, 2009; The Master of Magnetism

There were twice as many Kartana as Celesteela in the top 16 at this weekend's VGC regionals in Dallas.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:26

Classtoise: Feb 11, 2008; THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

Starsnostars posted:

There were twice as many Kartana as Celesteela in the top 16 at this weekend's VGC regionals in Dallas.

Yeah I meant San Jose and London, though, where it was like, every team had a Celesteela.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:26

JackDarko: Sep 30, 2009; "Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."

That Assault Vest Kartana is pretty viscous isn't it?

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:27

Nessa: Dec 15, 2008

runchild posted:

If you really can't be bothered to set up a Recycle-only+Switcheroo team (which is a lot easier than you think, and the Memento part isn't really necessary), then just kill the original Ditto before it starts to struggle, while another Ditto is on the field. New Pokemon will continue to SOS as long as they are in the same evolutionary line as the original Pokemon.

This is what I was doing. I would knock out the old Pokemon whenever a new one was called in. However, the calls for help kept failing.

I got the mystery gift Munchlax, which is now a Snorlax.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:28

PSWII60: Jan 7, 2007; All the best octopodes shoot fire and ice.

JackDarko posted:

That Assault Vest Kartana is pretty viscous isn't it?

Considering its special defense I would think a focus sash would be better.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:43

Internet Kraken: Apr 24, 2010; slightly amused

JackDarko posted:

That Assault Vest Kartana is pretty viscous isn't it?

Even with assault vest, Kartana can't take more than two special hits. A super effective hit will probably still kill it. A super effective fire one definitely will. It basically does the same thing as a focus sash at best and at worst gets you killed in one hit. It also takes away the ability to use protect which makes a Kartana much more predictable. An assault vest kartana is way easier to deal with than a focus sash one for most teams.

PSWII60 posted:

Considering its special defense I would think a focus sash would be better.

It does. Most people using assault vest are running focus sash on a different pokemon and trying to be greedy by using Kartana as well.

Classtoise posted:

Celesteela was all over the loving VGC Regionals, but Kartana hasn't made a huge splash yet (because "Skarmory but better" was way easier to use)

It's like Tapu Fini, once people realize you can't be burned or can Swagger your own teammates it'll probably see way more use and value on GTS.

Most people seem to be using Tapu Fini just to spam muddy water.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:46

Rangpur: Dec 31, 2008

PSWII60 posted:

Hell if if those adamant 5IV grimer don't need to be re-bred and are dump special attack, I have a Celesteela I got off the GTS you can have. It's a rash nature though.

FC: 1375-8302-1020
Name is the same as on here. Let me know if you're interested. And if you are can you name the grimer Slick?

Let me check, I've got a million of the bloody things. But otherwise, sure.

edit: Looks like the one you're looking for is a couple pixels shy of perfect IVs in Defense. I... don't know how important that is on the competitive scene. I'm going to keep pumping these out since I clearly didn't learn my lesson from XY and attempting to breed Shinies, so if you're not in a rush to dump your bamboo robot I can keep working on it.

Rangpur fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jan 3, 2017

# ? Jan 3, 2017 01:46

Rangpur: Dec 31, 2008

Or maybe it will be literally the next one I hatch instead. The ~~Aristocrats!~~ RNG, folks. I added your FC, PSWII60 and I'll be on shortly. Just need to rename it.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 02:11

PSWII60: Jan 7, 2007; All the best octopodes shoot fire and ice.

Rangpur posted:

Or maybe it will be literally the next one I hatch instead. The ~~Aristocrats!~~ RNG, folks. I added your FC, PSWII60 and I'll be on shortly. Just need to rename it.

I'll be home in about 40 minutes. I can add you and trade then. I wish I had your luck. The game for whatever reason really wants me to have a special attacking roggenolla.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 02:32

Ariong: Jun 25, 2012; Get bashed, platonist!

Pokemon Red, or Pokemon Blue?

# ? Jan 3, 2017 02:40

Silver Falcon: Dec 5, 2005; Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Ariong posted:

Pokemon Red, or Pokemon Blue?

Blue has Vulpix and Meowth. 'nuff said.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 02:56

Ariong: Jun 25, 2012; Get bashed, platonist!

Cool!

# ? Jan 3, 2017 03:00

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Ariong posted:

Pokemon Red, or Pokemon Blue?

Yellow, my dude

# ? Jan 3, 2017 03:29

Ogmius815: Aug 25, 2005; centrism is a hell of a drug

Why are the clothes in this game so much worse than in X and Y? I can't wear anything that would be appropriate for a setting more formal than a trip to the beach and the male character has to wear a loving backpack. Also, there are no full length pants.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:28

Theta Zero: Dec 22, 2014; I've seen it.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogondoubles-75588440

Looking at top replays again. This guy did a setup so that his Garchomp wound up wiping not only the entire enemy team, but its entire own team as well.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:29

Zoran: Aug 19, 2008; I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Theta Zero posted:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogondoubles-75588440

Looking at top replays again. This guy did a setup so that his Garchomp wound up wiping not only the entire enemy team, but its entire own team as well.

I knew before I looked that this was going to be the old Moxie Garchomp sweep

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:31

Internet Kraken: Apr 24, 2010; slightly amused

Theta Zero posted:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogondoubles-75588440

Looking at top replays again. This guy did a setup so that his Garchomp wound up wiping not only the entire enemy team, but its entire own team as well.

Visual representation on the effect Garchomp has on Pokemon.

Fun fact; Beast Boost works the same way as Moxie so you can murder your own pokemon for stat boosts.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:37

GET IN THE ROBOT: Nov 28, 2007; JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

God I just want that pokemon bank update to be ouuuttttttttttt

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:38

JackDarko: Sep 30, 2009; "Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."

So any ideas why Nihelago won't appear for me in the Digglets tunnel? I caught the one in Wela Park and I'm not using repels.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:38

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

JackDarko posted:

So any ideas why Nihelago won't appear for me in the Digglets tunnel? I caught the one in Wela Park and I'm not using repels.

Mine showed up when I used strength on a boulder.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:39

LightningSquid: Dec 27, 2013

JackDarko posted:

So any ideas why Nihelago won't appear for me in the Digglets tunnel? I caught the one in Wela Park and I'm not using repels.

I'm pretty sure there's only one Nihilego.

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:44

Zuzie: Jun 30, 2005; I got this for a Ratatta on GTS.

JackDarko posted:

So any ideas why Nihelago won't appear for me in the Digglets tunnel? I caught the one in Wela Park and I'm not using repels.

There's only one Nihelago and it appears in either place.

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# ? May 28, 2024 18:49

Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

Theta Zero posted:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogondoubles-75588440

Looking at top replays again. This guy did a setup so that his Garchomp wound up wiping not only the entire enemy team, but its entire own team as well.

He won because he nicknamed his pokemon

# ? Jan 3, 2017 04:46

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