ManofManyAliases posted:

Derek couldn't doxx the broad-side of a federal building. I wouldn't worry.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Derek couldn't doxx the broad-side of a federal building. I wouldn't worry.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Unfortunately CIG's art direction, like everything else, is limited by the imagination of its creative director. Color is just one example. There's little inspiration with respect to any aspect of the game, from the appearance of characters to the starships to even the lore itself. It's pretty sad when the story of Star Citizen (the project) is more interesting and immersive than the story of Star Citizen (the game).

I feel like a lot of it is that Star Citizen has no soul. It has no defining characteristics or rules that dictate how things look or how the universe operates. If you look at something out of Star Wars or Star Trek you can associate it with that universe. Firefly did the same thing by focusing on a western, frontier aesthetic. Elite has largely done the same thing (although I think the Guatamaya ships are a bit out of synch). Wing Commander (the game) did as well with their jets in space and open hangars trying to create a WW2 look within the limitations of the technology. In WC1/2 the ships were bright and colorful, with distinctive silhouettes that attempted to evoke the look of a WW2 space plane. Between WC1 and WC2 the emphasis was placed on increasing the style by using the extra pixels to add paneling in a manner that suggested a riveted warbird. This aesthetic was also transitioned over to the Kilrathi ships, which had a distinct look but retained a "riveted together" appearance. Privateer also follows this aesthetic even with the alien Selkath craft which have a paneled look. The same thing is visible in the cut scenes, and in the inside of the cockpits. Incidentally the limited viewspace of the cockpits was a technical trick; the less you could see out the window the less you had to render.



Curiously Privateer shows an interesting turning point for Wing Commander. While the ships are still sprites they were clearly based off of 3D models. If you compare the difference between ships featured in the first WC and Privateer you can clearly see that the color palette is now muted. We see the same thing happen in later WC ships. As more freedom allows for more detail, it seems to come at the expense of color. This continues in the Wing Commander movie and ultimately now in CR's latest release.

Unfortunately the technological freedom of Star Citizen has resulted in a mish-mash of creative ideas with little in the way of a unifying appearance. Vanduul, Xian, Banu, and Human ships have little to suggest they're part of the same universe. Even the different Human manufacturers take wildly different approaches and leave a lot to be desired. Why does a Hornet have massive "hydrogen scoops" and wings but the Aurora has neither but relies on fans? Why does Drake have everything from a wingless stump of a ship in the Herald to a Cutlass to a space-jet Buccaneer? Where is the unifying theme? What universal rules bring everything together? I would argue there are none, and instead the various ships reflect the lack of vision of the creator. Given the freedom to do anything, Chris Roberts chooses to do everything.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So how do you like Star Marine? You never told me why Last Man Standing was so much fun. I assume you're a huge fan?

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I propose the following is in keeping with Chris Robert’s and the communities’ vision for Star Citizen:

Goals for flight model:
WWII-style dogfighting (action packed, visual range, gunning, semi plane-like combat)
As realistic space flight physics as possible within the boundaries of WWII-style dogfighting
As much immersion as possible; plausible physics and lore reasons behind all flight model decisions
Skilled and varied gameplay
“Easy to learn, difficult to master”

Avoid for flight model:
Avoid having absolute realism over gameplay
Avoid gameplay decisions over immersion, lore, and plausible physics (no “space friction”, no “on rails” flight)
Avoid “endless” anything...endless circle strafing, endless jousting, endless turning combat, instead a mixture of all
Avoid overly difficult controls for beginners
Avoid confining advanced players to only low skilled combat

peter gabriel posted:

areyoutoast?

Sappo569 posted:

Alexis has a legit job though , handling tickets and CS or whatever

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Given the freedom to do anything, Chris Roberts chooses to do everything.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Absolutely not. It's like with Police Officers, you know? If you ask them, they need to tell you!

Mr.PayDay posted:

peter gabriel posted:

areyoutoast?

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

Are you a cop?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I'm 6'9" and let me tell you it's loving awesome.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I don't play LMS much.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I'm 6'9" and let me tell you it's loving awesome.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I don't play LMS much.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I thought you didn't have Evocati.

ManofManyAliases posted:

You're right. I don't.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Oh. So you're full of poo poo then. Thanks.

Milky Moor posted:

Reminder that MOMA has literally never posted in any SA thread except this one.

Wonder why that is.

ManofManyAliases posted:

2 Others. gently caress off.

ManofManyAliases posted:

3 Others. gently caress off. Why do you care so much?

ManofManyAliases posted:

3 Others. gently caress off. Why do you care so much?

Sabreseven posted:

I actually quite like this new version of MoMa, the insta snap replies with sentance enhancers are good.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Oh man, that's not good. We need to switch to another one of us. BRB - changing users.

Sickening posted:

At this point I feel like this is a shared account.

ManofManyAliases posted:

3 Others. gently caress off. Why do you care so much?

fuctifino posted:

He's always squirrelled away in high security compounds, playing 'Best Buddies' with the cult leader, David Miscavige

Milky Moor posted:

You have 1400 posts in total. You have exactly twelve posts which aren't related to Star Citizen. That isn't even a full percentage point.

My conclusion is that you have some kind of crippling brain disease.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Absolutely not. It's like with Police Officers, you know? If you ask them, they need to tell you!

ManofManyAliases posted:

During break, at least 20. Before Break? At least 40 = )

ManofManyAliases posted:

I don't play LMS much.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Unfortunately CIG's art direction, like everything else, is limited by the imagination of its creative director. Color is just one example. There's little inspiration with respect to any aspect of the game, from the appearance of characters to the starships to even the lore itself. It's pretty sad when the story of Star Citizen (the project) is more interesting and immersive than the story of Star Citizen (the game).

I feel like a lot of it is that Star Citizen has no soul. It has no defining characteristics or rules that dictate how things look or how the universe operates. If you look at something out of Star Wars or Star Trek you can associate it with that universe. Firefly did the same thing by focusing on a western, frontier aesthetic. Elite has largely done the same thing (although I think the Guatamaya ships are a bit out of synch). Wing Commander (the game) did as well with their jets in space and open hangars trying to create a WW2 look within the limitations of the technology. In WC1/2 the ships were bright and colorful, with distinctive silhouettes that attempted to evoke the look of a WW2 space plane. Between WC1 and WC2 the emphasis was placed on increasing the style by using the extra pixels to add paneling in a manner that suggested a riveted warbird. This aesthetic was also transitioned over to the Kilrathi ships, which had a distinct look but retained a "riveted together" appearance. Privateer also follows this aesthetic even with the alien Selkath craft which have a paneled look. The same thing is visible in the cut scenes, and in the inside of the cockpits. Incidentally the limited viewspace of the cockpits was a technical trick; the less you could see out the window the less you had to render.



Curiously Privateer shows an interesting turning point for Wing Commander. While the ships are still sprites they were clearly based off of 3D models. If you compare the difference between ships featured in the first WC and Privateer you can clearly see that the color palette is now muted. We see the same thing happen in later WC ships. As more freedom allows for more detail, it seems to come at the expense of color. This continues in the Wing Commander movie and ultimately now in CR's latest release.

Unfortunately the technological freedom of Star Citizen has resulted in a mish-mash of creative ideas with little in the way of a unifying appearance. Vanduul, Xian, Banu, and Human ships have little to suggest they're part of the same universe. Even the different Human manufacturers take wildly different approaches and leave a lot to be desired. Why does a Hornet have massive "hydrogen scoops" and wings but the Aurora has neither but relies on fans? Why does Drake have everything from a wingless stump of a ship in the Herald to a Cutlass to a space-jet Buccaneer? Where is the unifying theme? What universal rules bring everything together? I would argue there are none, and instead the various ships reflect the lack of vision of the creator. Given the freedom to do anything, Chris Roberts chooses to do everything.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted: