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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I was once in line at a currency exchange in Bangkok and heard a girl ahead of me speaking in hyper-American accent. There actually aren't very many Americans in Bangkok (they go up to Chiang Mai for some reason) and I piped up with "Oh hey are you American?" and she replied with "NO! I'M FROM CANADA! :mad:" and it's like, settle down, you're identical to an American from any Canada adjacent space. Just roll with it.

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Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:
Apparently I have a strong Canadian accent and many people can tell I'm from Canada as soon as I open my mouth. :sigh:

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Sheep-Goats posted:

I was once in line at a currency exchange in Bangkok and heard a girl ahead of me speaking in hyper-American accent. There actually aren't very many Americans in Bangkok (they go up to Chiang Mai for some reason) and I piped up with "Oh hey are you American?" and she replied with "NO! I'M FROM CANADA! :mad:" and it's like, settle down, you're identical to an American from any Canada adjacent space. Just roll with it.

Lol Canadians from basically anywhere west of Quebec all sound act and think exactly like americans. The only unique anglo-canadians are the maritimers and newfoundlanders, and they are loving amazing.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
the majority of canadians live within 50 miles of the border

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Ceciltron posted:

Lol Canadians from basically anywhere west of Quebec all sound act and think exactly like americans. The only unique anglo-canadians are the maritimers and newfoundlanders, and they are loving amazing.

I mean they're different from New Yorkers or someone from Louisiana but you compare an Albertan to a Montanan or someone from 30k town in Maine to someone in a 30k town in Ontario and you're talking the exact same person.

Anyway America has the best possible international neighbours and it's nice to be that way. Most neighborly of the Anglosphere to the north, most neighborly of the Latin states to the south.

raton fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 5, 2017

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Imperialist Dog posted:

The greatest symbol of my country is a sugary syrup poured on pancakes :canada:

Fixed for China:


Ceciltron posted:

Lol Canadians from basically anywhere west of Quebec all sound act and think exactly like americans. The only unique anglo-canadians are the maritimers and newfoundlanders, and they are loving amazing.

There is definitely a Toronto accent, but it mostly involves being unable to pronounce Toronto correctly. Tron-o. :wtc:

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Blistex posted:

Double hybrid babies. . . so cute!

I had some Chinese girl a while back tell me all hybrids were cute and I was like "I'm a hybrid of a few races and countries" and she said "I mean like real hybrids not Americans" and I was like uhm

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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McGavin posted:

Fixed for China:


is there a particular reason why ever single chinese person seems to be wearing one of these

Rudeboy Detective
Apr 28, 2011


I'm 1/128th Cherokee princess, am I a hybrid?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Imperialist Dog posted:

Apparently I have a strong Canadian accent and many people can tell I'm from Canada as soon as I open my mouth. :sigh:

Tv Canadian

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Fojar38 posted:

is there a particular reason why ever single chinese person seems to be wearing one of these

Easy to fake, high visibility luxury brand.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

The Great Autismo! posted:

I had some Chinese girl a while back tell me all hybrids were cute and I was like "I'm a hybrid of a few races and countries" and she said "I mean like real hybrids not Americans" and I was like uhm

Hey pretty boy.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Imperialist Dog posted:

Apparently I have a strong Canadian accent and many people can tell I'm from Canada as soon as I open my mouth. :sigh:

Try to stop referring to people as "hosers" and ending every sentence with eh.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
My english goal this year is to incorporate y'all into every conversation I have.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:
Apparently, my history nerd group has ruffled some serious establishment feathers! Front page of the pro Beijing newspaper Ta Kung Pao!



"Distortion of war history, hatred for mainlanders. HONG KONG INDEPENDENCE ARMY SWAGGERS THROUGH STREETS"

I thought my buddy was making it up but here's a link to the full article. Perhaps someone would care to translate choice bits?

http://news.takungpao.com.hk/paper/20170105.html?A1

Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jan 5, 2017

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


oohhboy posted:

He is the foundation of the CCP so they can't throw him under the bus like everyone else. So they make up dumb poo poo like this or blame the Gang of 4 so that the rest of the party who are equally as dumb and at fault get shielded.

Imagine if the U.S government's base of power is still predicated on the corpse of George Washington.

Instead, it's the corpse of Ronald Reagan

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

McGavin posted:

Try to stop referring to people as "hosers" and ending every sentence with eh.

Two things I have literally never heard someone in/from Canada say unironically, but I have met people who are verging on the stereotypical "Canada accent".

Sheep-Goats posted:

I was once in line at a currency exchange in Bangkok and heard a girl ahead of me speaking in hyper-American accent. There actually aren't very many Americans in Bangkok (they go up to Chiang Mai for some reason) and I piped up with "Oh hey are you American?" and she replied with "NO! I'M FROM CANADA! :mad:" and it's like, settle down, you're identical to an American from any Canada adjacent space. Just roll with it.

I hate a good 90% of Canadian expats for pretty much this exact reason.

"I'm Canadian, I'm so much better than those loud and ignorant Americans" <is louder and more ignorant than any single American I have met overseas>

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

caberham posted:

Tv Canadian

Does that mean you are genetically mandated to be 33% Canadian content?


I can always tell which white people are Canadians by two things:

1. If you ask them where they're from, they say "GUESS" in a really obnoxious fashion.

2. They look vaguely like Elizabeth II. Especially the men.


Anyways, China!

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Hey everybody it's that time again

What time is it?

It's time for Western news stations to do a 20 second piece on the stupid ice sculptures in Harbin!

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Xelkelvos posted:

There's a sort of recurring thing when working with East Asians in Engineering where they can generally do any sort of task that's been done before and can refine it to peak efficiency, but when trying to come up with novel solutions or adapt to a change in procedure, they tend to come up short in comparison to Westerners.

I lived in a very industrial city in Korea and knew a bunch of engineers, this is exactly how the companies function. Hyundai has Koreans do all the work but hires engineers from the US/Germany/Norway (other countries too but these are the main ones) to do all the design and troubleshooting. It's not a controversy at all it's literally the corporate policy of Hyundai.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Sheep-Goats posted:

Hey everybody it's that time again

What time is it?

It's time for Western news stations to do a 20 second piece on the stupid ice sculptures in Harbin!

Biggest waste of 600(? Maybe more) Rmb i ever spent. Would have been better spent on a nice dinner and a movie.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Grand Fromage posted:

I lived in a very industrial city in Korea and knew a bunch of engineers, this is exactly how the companies function. Hyundai has Koreans do all the work but hires engineers from the US/Germany/Norway (other countries too but these are the main ones) to do all the design and troubleshooting. It's not a controversy at all it's literally the corporate policy of Hyundai.

Another reason that Japan and Korea do better at design than China is that they invested a ton of money into creating a proper engineering infrastructure decades ago so that their students will learn the principals of design and innovation. This is very different than what China has been doing and trying to continue doing (focussing efforts on reverse engineering and copying). So that's why you have Samsung, Kia, Sony, and Honda making new and sometimes innovative products, while China is busy making bargain basements copies of ipods and Jettas.

Another problem with China thinking that they are going to fast-track to the top by buying a ton of western tech and design companies is that they initially keep everything "as is" but eventually they start running the companies with "Chinese characteristics" and fail to attract new genius blood, or piss off the ones that they already have and cause them to jump ship. It's very much like their approach to Olympic soccer.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
My friend went home for the holidays (not sure where, but in Smogville) and posted this video with the caption "Immortality":

http://i.imgur.com/L5KvF2d.gifv

LMAO @ her lungs

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
It depends

Blistex posted:

Another reason that Japan and Korea do better at design than China is that they invested a ton of money into creating a proper engineering infrastructure decades ago so that their students will learn the principals of design and innovation. This is very different than what China has been doing and trying to continue doing (focussing efforts on reverse engineering and copying). So that's why you have Samsung, Kia, Sony, and Honda making new and sometimes innovative products, while China is busy making bargain basements copies of ipods and Jettas.

Another problem with China thinking that they are going to fast-track to the top by buying a ton of western tech and design companies is that they initially keep everything "as is" but eventually they start running the companies with "Chinese characteristics" and fail to attract new genius blood, or piss off the ones that they already have and cause them to jump ship. It's very much like their approach to Olympic soccer.

It depends on which level of the supply chain or industry.

If it involves electrical components and manufacturing at scale you bet your rear end on Shenzhen. China is actually pretty decent at churning out telecommunications equipment for the rest of the world.

There's DHI, Johnson electric, and a whole bunch of tier 2/3 guys

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

caberham posted:

It depends


It depends on which level of the supply chain or industry.

If it involves electrical components and manufacturing at scale you bet your rear end on Shenzhen. China is actually pretty decent at churning out telecommunications equipment for the rest of the world.

There's DHI, Johnson electric, and a whole bunch of tier 2/3 guys

Now are you talking design or manufacturing? I'm talking about actually coming up with new designs rather than having an assembly line churning out a pre-designed component.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Most of the telecom equipment I can actually look at at my place is made in Mexico actually

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

In other news, the poutinerie in Taipei is great.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Haier posted:

My friend went home for the holidays (not sure where, but in Smogville) and posted this video with the caption "Immortality":

http://i.imgur.com/L5KvF2d.gifv

LMAO @ her lungs

This is why comparing Chinar to Mordor hurts the feelings of the orcish people

poly and open-minded
Nov 22, 2006

In BOD we trust

The Great Autismo! posted:

I had some Chinese girl a while back tell me all hybrids were cute and I was like "I'm a hybrid of a few races and countries" and she said "I mean like real hybrids not Americans" and I was like uhm

all the ugly face loss

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Imperialist Dog posted:

Apparently, my history nerd group has ruffled some serious establishment feathers! Front page of the pro Beijing newspaper Ta Kung Pao!



"Distortion of war history, hatred for mainlanders. HONG KONG INDEPENDENCE ARMY SWAGGERS THROUGH STREETS"

I thought my buddy was making it up but here's a link to the full article. Perhaps someone would care to translate choice bits?

http://news.takungpao.com.hk/paper/20170105.html?A1

I'm genuinely amazed that you're surprised by this.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Blistex posted:

Now are you talking design or manufacturing? I'm talking about actually coming up with new designs rather than having an assembly line churning out a pre-designed component.

Yeah I know a bunch of people cin China that were electrical engineering majors at university and all of them that stayed in the industry after graduation were involved in PCB fab work and not allowed to do the actual design, wasting the semesters they were forced to learn Eagle and CAD

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Most of the foreign guys I've met had had something negative to say about "Asians" at some point. And yes most of them end up with Asian girlfriends and wives. For the majority of them though it's just a daily frustration or your regular culture shock kind of thing and most of them are comparing a single bad experience to their entire life in the west. "Oh my god these Asians can't figure out how to process a visa oh my god!" After having lived in Bangkok, I have a counter-anecdote for basically everything frustrating my friends in Taiwan have run into. Perspective is important and it's rare that people actually live in more than 1 or 2 Asian countries before going back to their home country.

I was actually going to write "in Taiwan or Korea" above but aside from the infrastructure and bureaucracy in Korea being better than in Thailand, Thailand is definitely the better place to live as far as not being treated like poo poo all the time is concerned.

Now that doesn't justify the lifers I've met who refuse to learn the language of their wives and spend their nights drinking and bitching about how much they hate where they live and the people that live in that country, but fortunately outside of Thailand those have been a minority of the people I've met. But in Thailand? Sheesh.

So in other words:
In Korea it's the Koreans who are terribly racist and that creates a serious "us vs. them" mentality between foreigners and Koreans.

In Thailand it's mostly the foreigners who are racist and the Thais have their own problems to worry about. I'm sure there are racist Thais same as everywhere else, but you don't get the openly aggressive ajoshis spitting and screaming at you for being on the train with a local-looking girl who is actually from Canada.

And of course Taiwan number 1.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Like seriously the people who bitch about mild inconveniences in Taiwan are the epitome of first-world problems.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Gorilla Salad posted:

I'm genuinely amazed that you're surprised by this.

Yeah. Pretty much any acknowledgement that powers other than China fought the Japanese is seen as revisionist history and an insult to the great sacrifices China made to ensure the defeat of Japan.

Example of some of China's historical distortion in their history curriculum: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/06/world/asia/chinas-textbooks-twist-and-omit-history.html?_r=0

On the other hand, I've heard that a lot of Japan's whitewashing of WWII history is limited to a very small number of books that have been shunned by pretty much all school boards, and that the reason they don't go into depth on Japanese crimes during the war was that the curriculum for their history courses are too ambitious (too much content to cover), so the entire 20th century portion of the course usually happens in the last week of classes (if at all).

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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I bitch about Japanese people in Japan constantly, but I think if I ever left Japan I'd definitely go out of my way to hang out with whatever Japanese people live in the new location.

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me

Blistex posted:

Yeah. Pretty much any acknowledgement that powers other than China fought the Japanese is seen as revisionist history and an insult to the great sacrifices China made to ensure the defeat of Japan.

Example of some of China's historical distortion in their history curriculum: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/06/world/asia/chinas-textbooks-twist-and-omit-history.html?_r=0

On the other hand, I've heard that a lot of Japan's whitewashing of WWII history is limited to a very small number of books that have been shunned by pretty much all school boards, and that the reason they don't go into depth on Japanese crimes during the war was that the curriculum for their history courses are too ambitious (too much content to cover), so the entire 20th century portion of the course usually happens in the last week of classes (if at all).

ya, the problem with Japanese history class is nobody remembers any of it.

US history also has the problem where they dont cover much post 1980.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Atlas Hugged posted:

In Thailand it's mostly the foreigners who are racist and the Thais have their own problems to worry about. I'm sure there are racist Thais same as everywhere else, but you don't get the openly aggressive ajoshis spitting and screaming at you for being on the train with a local-looking girl who is actually from Canada.

A late 20's guy tries to shame my wife (thinking she was Korean) for sitting next to me on the subway. I used to understand a decent amount of Korean then (my second year there) so I knew what he was getting at (all the key words: foreigner, shame, etc.) She was starting to get really shy, and I told her to talk to him in English. She asks him what the hell he is talking about (in English) and you could see the gears in his head grind to a halt. The idea that there are Koreans (even though she is Chinese) born outside of Korea blew his mind.

On the other hand I've gotten thumbs up and sly grins from various ajoshis (+50 yrs) for having Korean women lean on me when they fall asleep on the subway. Meanwhile, late 20's Koran guys would run the full length of the subway car to shake the girl awake and tell her to go to another seat before I raped them.

Edit: most Korean guys I've met under the age of 50 were decent enough until a Korean woman was thrown into the mix, then they would instantly hate me. Going to a club, bar, party with a Korean guy in Korea was pretty much impossible, because as soon as some Korean girl started to talk to you in a friendly manner, they guys would get seriously defensive and tell the girls to not approach you. Older guys on the other hand would tell you outright, "you go get some of that! I can tell she likes you."

Blistex fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jan 5, 2017

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Ceciltron posted:

Lol Canadians from basically anywhere west of Quebec all sound act and think exactly like americans. The only unique anglo-canadians are the maritimers and newfoundlanders, and they are loving amazing.

There's a slight accent. Just ask them to say "house" or "pasta."

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Blistex posted:

A late 20's guy tries to shame my wife (thinking she was Korean) for sitting next to me on the subway. I used to understand a decent amount of Korean then (my second year there) so I knew what he was getting at (all the key words: foreigner, shame, etc.) She was starting to get really shy, and I told her to talk to him in English. She asks him what the hell he is talking about (in English) and you could see the gears in his head grind to a halt. The idea that there are Koreans (even though she is Chinese) born outside of Korea blew his mind.

On the other hand I've gotten thumbs up and sly grins from various ajoshis (+50 yrs) for having Korean women lean on me when they fall asleep on the subway. Meanwhile, late 20's Koran guys would run the full length of the subway car to shake the girl awake and tell her to go to another seat before I raped them.

Edit: most Korean guys I've met under the age of 50 were decent enough until a Korean woman was thrown into the mix, then they would instantly hate me. Going to a club, bar, party with a Korean guy in Korea was pretty much impossible, because as soon as some Korean girl started to talk to you in a friendly manner, they guys would get seriously defensive and tell the girls to not approach you. Older guys on the other hand would tell you outright, "you go get some of that! I can tell she likes you."

This is weird because we lived in the same area of Korea (Dongducheon) but my experience was always that the young guys were super cool and the old guys were total racist bastards. It'd be like 6:30am and I'd be on the train from Soyosan up into Yeoncheon for work and there'd be a drunk ajoshi screaming at me for discussing the days lessons with my Korean coworker at a respectful volume. The problem wasn't that I was noisy, but that I was speaking English.

Let us English posted:

There's a slight accent. Just ask them to say "house" or "pasta."

There's a well known gogo bar in Bangkok called Crazy House and I love suggesting to Canadians that we go there because of how they say it.

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Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Blistex posted:

Meanwhile, late 20's Koran guys would run the full length of the subway car to shake the girl awake and tell her to go to another seat before I raped them.
I thought it was those guys that did the raping?

EDIT: If someone lives in Asia and says something like "Asians are X," it weirds me out because not pinpointing the country the person is from seems like some hillbilly racism. "All them slant eyes are from that country Asia, right?"

Haier fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Jan 5, 2017

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