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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I figure they're just trying to play on the media's willingness to give everyone a platform in order to maintain the facade of neutrality.

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Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


SunAndSpring posted:

I'm still wondering where the Nazi obsession with "debating" people came from. Right wing people are loving obsessed with doing that poo poo for every little thing, while I think debates are usually worthless outside of academia and running a political campaign.

Beats me, but I remember the manosphere doing this back in 2014. Going around to various "feminazi" sites and challenging people to debate Paul Elam.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



SunAndSpring posted:

I'm still wondering where the Nazi obsession with "debating" people came from. Right wing people are loving obsessed with doing that poo poo for every little thing, while I think debates are usually worthless outside of academia and running a political campaign.

Was this a notable trait of actual German Nazis? Because otherwise it seems like it's just a result of the fact that most of the current crop are sadsacks justifying their loner status by convincing themselves that people just can't handle their superior intellect. Which, to Jonas Albrecht's point, ties in with the fact that a lot of these guys are/were also MRA/PUAs, gamergators, libertarians, etc.

Anytime these people get mocked online they do the "Aha! Your use of memes about brain disease instead of an actual response proves that you are unable to defeat my superior logic!" thing. So I'm pretty sure it's just self-delusion to avoid grappling with the fact that every conversation they engage in ends with the other person laughing at their mush brains.

Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 5, 2017

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

SunAndSpring posted:

I'm still wondering where the Nazi obsession with "debating" people came from. Right wing people are loving obsessed with doing that poo poo for every little thing, while I think debates are usually worthless outside of academia and running a political campaign.

I feel like it has a lot to do with the quote that Rhesus Pieces posted (shown below). The first time I saw that quote a month or two ago it really struck me. They don't really want debate so much as they want to be disruptive to ideas that don't support their worldview.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Yeah they're completely justified in not debating these people


Bulkiest Toaster
Jan 22, 2013

by R. Guyovich

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

:mrwhite:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

My friend, this post sucks

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Bulkiest Toaster posted:

I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt earlier, that was a mistake.

Also if Daily Shoah represents white identity, then bring on white genocide.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Eh, awful.app ate my post.

You're a garden variety troll who thinks that internet nazis haven't gotten a fair and honest shake at a debate. What a brave and bold position to take.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


why wont our Chapo boys just address the need for a white ethnostate with the totally not nazis over at the Daily Shoah??

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Listen man, I'm just asking questions about why white nationalism is bad. Don't attack the messenger bro.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.
Your post is like Exhibit A for Zizek's argument that a culture of political correctness just allows genuinely repulsive people to worm their way into the conversation. Of course they don't label themselves Nazis, they label themselves "racialists," "race realists," and now "alt-right" to try to normalize their insane worldview. Recognizing these people's existence just enough to mock them from afar may not be the optimal way to deal with them, but giving them a platform is always a bad idea.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

This is not true at all. Check out the daily Shoah episode 99 where they have Brendan O'Conner from gawker on, and also episode 103 where they have a vice reporter on. Totally civil discussions in both cases. I think a chapo/daily Shoah crossover would be really good.

lmao this guy has an encyclopedic knowledge of white supremacist neonazi podcasts

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Somebody in the means-testing cult will eventually throw out ethnostates as a solution before universal programs or actually fighting to make diverse groups care about social programs.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Bulkiest Toaster posted:

Who are the best alt-right philosophers I should read? Looking to get into the alt-right.

lol

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Phone posted:

Listen man, I'm just asking questions about why white nationalism is bad. Don't attack the messenger bro.

But what if you put yourself in their shoes? Like just strip away anything that's pro-white and replace it with pro-black, what do you think now? Also, just ignore the Nazi imagery etc.
Oh you don't want to do that?
Hmmph. I guess you are just not smart and honest enough to participate my psychological thought experiments. Too bad you are too closed minded to see that. Minds only work when they are open my friend. I'll have to take my smart comments and hair splitting somewhere else. Good day!

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

But what if you put yourself in their shoes? Like just strip away anything that's pro-white and replace it with pro-black, what do you think now?
Oh you don't want to do that? Also, just ignore the Nazi imagery etc.
Hmmph. You don't want to do that? I guess you are just not smart and honest enough to participate my psychological thought experiments. Too bad you are too closed minded to see that. Minds only work when they are open my friend. I'll have to take my smart comments and hair splitting somewhere else. Good day!

I don't like your aggressive language. I find it incredibly demeaning and unnecessary violent. I feel personally attacked for trying to have an innocent conversation as to why white people are genetically and intellectually superior.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


There's an entire twitter account devoted entirely to tweeting out fallacy referee image macros.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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unbutthurtable posted:

I think it's just one of the trappings of legitimacy they feel they need to have.

Chapo even said as much, because a debate is the place where any idea can be justified and given as much airtime as any other idea, an environment where an evil idea like "let's crush poor people into nutrition paste" and a good idea like "let's not" start on equal footing.

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxd8ml-n5NE

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Phone posted:

I don't like your aggressive language. I find it incredibly demeaning and unnecessary violent. I feel personally attacked for trying to have an innocent conversation as to why white people are genetically and intellectually superior.

This is a stunning break of decorum, I thought we we're trying to have an honest debate on the urgent need for white's only utopia. Good job on introducing the Laguid Tailor's Appeal to the Demonstrative Fallacy.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
It really is a shame that no one wants to read about why white nationalist have got the right idea have an honest conversation. So sad that we've come to this as a society. Honest debate is frowned up on. I'm so so sad and hurt by this. So disappointing. ho-hum...

efb.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/Rhizzone_Txt/status/815786471810416640

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

SunAndSpring posted:

I'm still wondering where the Nazi obsession with "debating" people came from. Right wing people are loving obsessed with doing that poo poo for every little thing, while I think debates are usually worthless outside of academia and running a political campaign.

"New atheists" get redpilled and bring their nerd poo poo with them

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis

Daily Shoah

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

I forgot who Taylor Lorenz is and it turns out she was the person who made an article about her game avatar that consists of a head and two hands getting molested online. I'm mildly interested in going back in her twitter timeline to look for some "What the poo poo? Also are you okay?" @ but I don't feel like sifting through PePes calling her an ugly whore.

Literally
Jul 2, 2009

SunAndSpring posted:

"Jews cucked my balls"

I don't remember Cum Town doing that version of Feliz Navidad.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

A nazi asking to "debate" is like some rear end in a top hat inviting you to play a calm, intellectually stimulating game of chess so he can repeatedly kick you in the shins under the table with a rictus grin plastered across his face. Then when you eventually flip the board over or try to take a swing at him he giggles and calls you a sore loser.


gently caress off you nazi

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

not sure if this was posted but holy poo poo this article

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/05/the-media-s-favorite-millennial-is-a-55-year-old-comedian.html

read it to the end, it's worth it

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Nice find, my friend.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012



quote:

So tell me, are you 35 or 55?

Then a pause.

“I’m 35,” he said. “The mistake is in my birth record.”

A few minutes later, he said he wanted to talk to his lawyer before he said anything else.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Hmmm I think the guys who say Bernie would have won and make fun of alt right trolls should debate neo Nazis earnestly because that's a thing that's worth spending any time at all on

Get bent fuckstain

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I guess I appreciate the work involved, but I don't see why you should even have to do any investigative journalism to prove that a man who claims to have been a senior engineer in 2001 could not possibly be 35.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever
hmm yes, chapo should debate the nazi dipshits who invented triple parentheses

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

Zikan posted:

not sure if this was posted but holy poo poo this article

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/05/the-media-s-favorite-millennial-is-a-55-year-old-comedian.html

read it to the end, it's worth it

quote:

"Then there was that email he offered to fight me to the death on the Isle of Man.”

That’s not a joke.

“Yeah, he gave places you’re allowed to legally fight to the death,” said Maher.


Dan Nainan is actually the funniest guy alive.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq19qB0OTwo&t=17s

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_8O-iDvlmA

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

I'd rather not have the Daily Shoah people acquaint themselves with our good Chapo boys, but I would love to see their heads acquainted with the pavement.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

It's kind of sad that Dan Nainan seems so hung up on disappointing his parents by trying to be a comedian. But I guess I would be pretty disappointed too if my son had a nice job and then decided to instead be the worst comedian of all time while lying about his age and being a general prick.

Also, it seems like this brain injury thing is real? He sent that guy his hospital paperwork?

i mean it explains why he is not funny.

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002


Zikan posted:

Laguid Tailor's Appeal to the Demonstrative Fallacy.

Why isn't this a real thing

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
It's kind of nuts to me that we exist in a world where people will just casually recommend a white nationalist podcast. I have been catching up with chapo though and that last episode was fantastic. All that stuff with the Micheal Rappaport stuff is so surreal and amazing. Him talking about white guys using rap slang is so perfect it almost feels not real.

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Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Bulkiest Toaster posted:

They essentially outline white nationalism and the problems with mass immigration. I think a good discussion topic if they were to ever meet with the chapo boys would be the validity of white identity or a white ethnostate. The Shoah guys I think would be down with this I gather from listening to their podcast. Chapo guys might need to tweak the debate guidelines somewhat but I think it would be both educational and lead to tons of laughs for both sides of such a debate was happening

But I think chapo audience is more interested in debating a fraud comedian who does nothing to challenge their world view. Which is ok. I am a fan of how chapo calls out memebers of the pundit class and it's pretty funny. The left seems to have a thing about not debating "nazis" even though almost no one self identifies as a nazi not even the historically group labeled as nazis. Pretty funny I think chapo and their fans being part of irony Twitter like to play into this idea.

Suck my dick you fuckman

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