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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012


Ah yes, Tony Stark's Jheri Curl days.

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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

a kitten posted:

Somebody put Murata on a Spider-man book please



:rock::gizz::rock::gizz::rock::gizz::rock::gizz::rock::gizz::rock::gizz::rock::gizz:

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Is hiring manga artists to draw comics something Marvel and DC have tried to do yet? That feels like an obvious thing to try that I'd be surprised that they haven't.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Nah. Hire out of the dregs of DeviantArt and get a new Mangaverse going!

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

a kitten posted:

Somebody put Murata on a Spider-man book please



This is a great example of how a good colourist can take blocks of high contrast colour and make them look like a seamless play of light. Like, check out the colours on Spidey's outstretched hand, or on his foremost leg or foot. At a glance they look both striking and natural, but the effect is achieved using clear, differentiated blocks and stripes of white, pastel pink, hot pink, and burgundy (if asked, would you have intuitively associated pastel pink with Spider-Man's palette? Or even with this picture at a glance?). On his fingers, the colours are like radial layers, the separation is so clear and it adds hugely to the picture's sense of motion and energy. This beautiful sense of colour and depth is achieved not by smooth blending of these colours together, but in the fact that they are sitting separately on the page and contrasting with each other.

There's blending and smooth transitions going on within the colours of course, especially within the "main" blocks of red and royal blue, and that's important too. But the high contrast stripes and blocks of colour are totally vital to the motion and beauty of the piece, and they're exactly the kind of thing your eye skates over and reads as one smooth play of light until you take a closer look.

It takes a lot of skill to just add colours to existing lines, and then do it such that by adding blocks and areas of colour that aren't even necessarily defined in the linework, you're creating this sense of light and shadow, weight and depth. It's the sort of thing that seems obvious, until you think about it and consider how much knowledge and confidence it takes for someone to say, "okay, I will make Spider-Man's fingers white, pastel pink, and hot pink, and that will make him look better".

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Does anyone know if Murata colours his own art? I mean, the practice for manga typically doesn't involve a colorist at all. Though occasionally colours are done up. So I am interested if that spiderman colour work is his own or someone elses.

Speaking of colour art though, this is Oda doing a full colour poster for One Piece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-b6wZ6cWUM

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMVJfp834uw

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Roth posted:

Is hiring manga artists to draw comics something Marvel and DC have tried to do yet? That feels like an obvious thing to try that I'd be surprised that they haven't.

Amy Reeder was on Batwoman for a while until there was internal strife. UDON did a run of Taskmaster.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

RevKrule posted:

Amy Reeder was on Batwoman for a while until there was internal strife. UDON did a run of Taskmaster.
I believe he's suggesting they hire actual artists out of Japan who are typically used to working a weekly/monthly/whenever Miura isn't playing Idolmaster schedule And basically getting them to do art.

For example, why not hire Murata to do Spiderman? And my only thoughts beyond them not wanting to is most Manga artists are typically used to creator owned works controlling both the story and the art. In Murata's case for One Punch Man, ONE writes the original story, but mostly Murata does his own thing.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

There was a Wolverine miniseries a few years back that was by an established manga artist, wasn't there?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
There have been several attempts in inject a manga influence into Marvel and none of have been very successful.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Rhyno posted:

There have been several attempts in inject a manga influence into Marvel and none of have been very successful.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Sana Takeda has drawn for Marvel but I don't know if she's a "manga artist". Her stuff looks anime as hell though.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

zoux posted:

Sana Takeda has drawn for Marvel but I don't know if she's a "manga artist". Her stuff looks anime as hell though.

She's never released a manga. and again I think the main difference here is Roth wasn't asking why they hadn't hired someone to inject an eastern art influence, but rather why they haven't hired artists who've published series in japan.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

And I thought he inspired Jason Wyngarde, not Tony Stark!

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Does Gurihiru not count

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Why does Princess Diana have Trump's haircut?

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Onmi posted:

She's never released a manga. and again I think the main difference here is Roth wasn't asking why they hadn't hired someone to inject an eastern art influence, but rather why they haven't hired artists who've published series in japan.

Yeah, I was asking if there was ever an attempt to get an established manga artist to draw for Marvel or DC. Thinking about it, I'm guessing a lot of them, particularly the ones who have a weekly schedules, probably have a a busy enough workload as it is.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Rhyno posted:

There have been several attempts in inject a manga influence into Marvel and none of have been very successful.

Thank goodness.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

X-O posted:

Thank goodness.

At least we got Runaways out of it.

Avulsion
Feb 12, 2006
I never knew what hit me

Roth posted:

Yeah, I was asking if there was ever an attempt to get an established manga artist to draw for Marvel or DC. Thinking about it, I'm guessing a lot of them, particularly the ones who have a weekly schedules, probably have a a busy enough workload as it is.


Snikt! by Tsutomu Nihei (Author of BLAME!) was a good read.


ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I donno. They haven't had *direct* manga-drawn stuff but there is plenty of influences in things like like Hellcat and Gwenpool both clearly at least have some manga influences in their art. (For, uh, obvious reasons with Gwenpool due to GuriHiru.)

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

That art in Snikt! looks great. Too bad the trade is $42 on Amazon, or I'd jump on that.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
$42 for a trade??? Jfc

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

It's probably just out of print.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

site posted:

$42 for a trade??? Jfc

The trades of Stephanie's Batgirl series were at least that much until they announced a reprint was gonna happen finally.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Out of print and never getting a reprint. There's tons of trades in that situation.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

It looks like the individual issues are a way cheaper way to get it, so that's something to consider when I have some spare cash at least.

Senior Woodchuck
Aug 29, 2006

When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home
Who was that guy who drew Austen's X-Men for a while and gave everybody noses you could land a V-22 Osprey on?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Roth posted:

It looks like the individual issues are a way cheaper way to get it, so that's something to consider when I have some spare cash at least.

Usually the case. The issues will have a larger print run and the trade will have 1/10th the size. I've flipped a lot of rare trades on Amazon, it happens a lot. Good example were the Wildstorm New Line trades. I made close to $200 in profit selling those three books because of the insane demand at one point. I also just sold a Simonson Thor Omnibus for $400.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
sam and max freelance police is like $50 D:

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Wowporn posted:

sam and max freelance police is like $50 D:

I have 2 copies of the original trade :smugbird:

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

Pictured: The Wolf Of Gubbio (probably)

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Senior Woodchuck posted:

Who was that guy who drew Austen's X-Men for a while and gave everybody noses you could land a V-22 Osprey on?
Kia Asamiya, whose popularity has always kind of confused me. Those noses being a big reason.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Mister Kingdom posted:

Why does Princess Diana have Trump's haircut?

The 80s were a hell of a time to be alive.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Rhyno posted:

Usually the case. The issues will have a larger print run and the trade will have 1/10th the size. I've flipped a lot of rare trades on Amazon, it happens a lot. Good example were the Wildstorm New Line trades. I made close to $200 in profit selling those three books because of the insane demand at one point. I also just sold a Simonson Thor Omnibus for $400.

What's been insane to me is seeing the prices some of those old Marvel Essentials are going for. I always just assumed they'd be more or less perennially in print, since the entire idea was to keep the old stuff available, as inexpensive reading copies, but I guess not!

I also haven't been to a comic shop in a long-rear end time, so.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Senior Woodchuck posted:

Who was that guy who drew Austen's X-Men for a while and gave everybody noses you could land a V-22 Osprey on?

When the art was the second worst thing about the comic

Senior Woodchuck
Aug 29, 2006

When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home
Honestly, I didn't mind his art, I just remember the nose thing being weird.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Pastry of the Year posted:

What's been insane to me is seeing the prices some of those old Marvel Essentials are going for. I always just assumed they'd be more or less perennially in print, since the entire idea was to keep the old stuff available, as inexpensive reading copies, but I guess not!

I also haven't been to a comic shop in a long-rear end time, so.

Marvel Essentials and select Marvel Masterworks can be massive money makers. A few DC Archives are good money as well. Volume 14 of the Spirit Archives is a $200 book on a bad day.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Keromaru5 posted:

Kia Asamiya, whose popularity has always kind of confused me. Those noses being a big reason.

He's released a few Manga, so if anyone was looking for a Manga author that's done main stream.

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Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.


Don't think a manga artist did this but I'm going to blame them all collectively anyway.

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