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What changes will the new ownership bring to the UFC?
This poll is closed.
Business as usual 12 7.55%
A few changes 45 28.30%
This is kind of crazy 55 34.59%
This is batfuck insane 47 29.56%
Total: 159 votes
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Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011
Looking at that photo I'd actually prefer it if they hired Badr Hari for play-by-play.

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Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
I'm a fan of Todd Grishams airport novels about one man standing up to different evil law firms but I'm more so so on his play by play announcing.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

fatherdog posted:

https://twitter.com/BloodyElbow/status/816637825558966272

I couldn't pick Todd Grisham out of a lineup so I have no real opinion on this.

He's pretty much the generic brown haired, white nerd announcer that WWE loves and managed to get to about third in the PBP depth chart.

Also he hosted an online call in radio show.

https://youtu.be/ud75ZQVh04U

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

fatherdog posted:

https://twitter.com/BloodyElbow/status/816637825558966272

I couldn't pick Todd Grisham out of a lineup so I have no real opinion on this.

He was so generic and bad they opted for the charismatic enigma known as Michael Cole.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Lid posted:

He was so generic and bad they opted for the charismatic enigma known as Michael Cole.

Cole was always ahead of Todd, just going by tenure and ability to regurgitate Vince.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
At least UFC didn't sign Striker or Matthews.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I just don't see why you'd replace the main man Goldberg with a dude who has no notable MMA commentary experience or history with the sport, like Schiavello for example or is highly respected for play-by-play in american sports as a whole (I have no idea who that may be). He's just an unremarkable dude who is from WWE to most people.

At least Goldberg, a goof at his best and incompetent at his worst, has had a long career with the UFC and he and Joe together have an undeniable brand recognition aspect to them. It doesn't look like a net gain to me.

Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jan 5, 2017

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
I would imagine they can pay the guy who had an internet radio show nearly nothing vs someone who has brand recognition

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Stinks of corporate mainstreaming to me. We need a Lawler - McDonald 2 type spectacle to keep such things at bay.

vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing
They'll probably replace Joe in six months if this new guy works out. Seems like he wants to retire anyways and this way they don't have to worry about training two announcers at once

vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing
Also, I can't imagine this wwe guy is more professional than Goldberg. He calls every ppv, has never been in a scandal larger than a Twitter fight, and he reads all of the ads no matter what's going on in the fight

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
I will always remember the time Randy knocked Big Tim down in their HW title match because Goldie was shouting a promo and trying to get through it so he could call the action but his brain would not let him stop reading the material for The Marine in theaters everywhere now.

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

Grandmaster.flv posted:

What do you mean by 'sabotage'?

he got in the way of kenny training with better people, and his corner strategy was yell everything kenny is going to do loud enough for BJ to hear it

Bundt Cake
Aug 17, 2003
;(

I.N.R.I posted:

the game plan was pretty sound and kenny stuck to it. he just couldnt beat bj penn

it was based on some voodoo science poo poo about blood pooling in certain muscles tiring people out.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Ummm that was from Kru Phil nurse, who was definitely not a witch doctor. Don't you remember him rubbing all up on gsp's chest back for performance and definitely not sexual reasons

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


vainman posted:

They'll probably replace Joe in six months if this new guy works out. Seems like he wants to retire anyways and this way they don't have to worry about training two announcers at once

I don't think they're going to re-sign Rogan when his contract is up and that would be on a mutual level too, but I can't see them kicking him out early either. He comes up with silly things too but he's legitimately popular outside of the UFC too. His podcast gets ridiculous numbers and he constantly talks about the UFC on it too, it's not a bad thing for them to have.


He did call himself an MMA expert the other day though, that might be pushing it.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

exploded mummy posted:

At least UFC didn't sign Striker or Matthews.

Now I really want them to sign Vampiro. Maybe he can mentor Ronda in the art of arm-snapping.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

Josuke Higashikata posted:


He did call himself an MMA expert the other day though, that might be pushing it.

:lol:

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

vainman posted:

Also, I can't imagine this wwe guy is more professional than Goldberg. He calls every ppv, has never been in a scandal larger than a Twitter fight, and he reads all of the ads no matter what's going on in the fight

WWE trains you to do ad reads and plugs while also having a workaholic insane billionaire screaming in your ear.

Dudes also been an ESPN anchor now for like 5 years

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

The Goldberg thing is probably as simple as cost tbh.

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

vainman posted:

They'll probably replace Joe in six months if this new guy works out. Seems like he wants to retire anyways and this way they don't have to worry about training two announcers at once

Why is everybody so confused about the difference between color and pbp announcers? Is it because Rogan is too dumb and stoned to know the difference so he tries to do both?

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

He did call himself an MMA expert the other day though, that might be pushing it.

Short of guys like Stann and Hardy, he actually is though. He was a National TKD champion (for whatever that's worth) and has black belts under Machado and Bravo.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Fat Twitter Man posted:

Why is everybody so confused about the difference between color and pbp announcers? Is it because Rogan is too dumb and stoned to know the difference so he tries to do both?

he does both because Goldie doesn't know poo poo.

TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

He did call himself an MMA expert the other day though, that might be pushing it.
how the hell isn't Rogan an MMA expert exactly

it's all he does alongside awkward kettlebell powersets

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I would consider that there likely needs to be some element of practical application and first hand experience before you can claim to be an expert.

There's probably teenagers out there who have watched the entirety of Pornhub, you wouldn't call them experts at sex just because they have a black belt in jerking off.


Like, I'd definitely say he's closest in terms of people involved in MMA who haven't fought in MMA to claim to be one, but expert is something above enthusiast or whatever

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

TheRationalRedditor posted:

how the hell isn't Rogan an MMA expert exactly

it's all he does alongside awkward kettlebell powersets

Its the new announcer that called himself an MMA expert. Joe Rogan is absolutely an MMA expert even if he doesn't know what a downed opponent is.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I would consider that there likely needs to be some element of practical application and first hand experience before you can claim to be an expert.

There's probably teenagers out there who have watched the entirety of Pornhub, you wouldn't call them experts at sex just because they have a black belt in jerking off.


Like, I'd definitely say he's closest in terms of people involved in MMA who haven't fought in MMA to claim to be one, but expert is something above enthusiast or whatever

lmao what

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Mr. Nice! posted:

Its the new announcer that called himself an MMA expert. Joe Rogan is absolutely an MMA expert even if he doesn't know what a downed opponent is.

No, it was Joe Rogan, on one of the two who is fat challenge podcasts he did the other day.
(Worth a watch actually, those two dudes are quite funny and they've lost a lot of weight in not much time for it.)


I'm also doing him a huge disservice because the rest of the quote is that he defers to people who knows better than him for knowledge about things when he knows that they know best, such as Eddie Bravo about Jiu Jitsu. He's genuinely one of my favourite things about the UFC and I'll miss him when he calls time.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013



ok, you can call yourself a sexpert.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Can you be an expert in horse racing without being a jockey?

Or a horse?

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
Big John McCarthy is not an expert in MMA because he's never competed in the UFC, fam

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Josuke Higashikata posted:

No, it was Joe Rogan, on one of the two who is fat challenge podcasts he did the other day.
(Worth a watch actually, those two dudes are quite funny and they've lost a lot of weight in not much time for it.)


I'm also doing him a huge disservice because the rest of the quote is that he defers to people who knows better than him for knowledge about things when he knows that they know best, such as Eddie Bravo about Jiu Jitsu. He's genuinely one of my favourite things about the UFC and I'll miss him when he calls time.

Joe Rogan has a black belt on BJJ and had some degree of accolades in TKD before he quit due to fear of concussions, so not only is your point weird to begin with, but you're also wrong by your own metric.

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

1st AD posted:

he does both because Goldie doesn't know poo poo.

Goldie is actually tolerable with a competent PBP guy like Stann who doesn't step all over him.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

...and the pitch! posted:

Can you be an expert in horse racing without being a jockey?

Or a horse?

Catherine the Great was an expert horse breeder

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I just don't see why you'd replace the main man Goldberg with a dude who has no notable MMA commentary experience or history with the sport

Just based on that criteria I would say continuity

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Bluedeanie posted:

Joe Rogan has a black belt on BJJ and had some degree of accolades in TKD before he quit due to fear of concussions, so not only is your point weird to begin with, but you're also wrong by your own metric.

TKD and BJJ aren't MMA. MMA is mixed martial arts. as in MMA fighting. He'd be the first to tell you he's not an MMA fighter because he can do TKD and BJJ. Like, it's not wrong by my own metric. Weird? yeah, probs.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Is Joe Silva an MMA expert?

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Josuke Higashikata posted:

TKD and BJJ aren't MMA. MMA is mixed martial arts. as in MMA fighting. He'd be the first to tell you he's not an MMA fighter because he can do TKD and BJJ. Like, it's not wrong by my own metric. Weird? yeah, probs.

No matter how many times the broadcast team says "he doesn't train wrestling or boxing, he trains MMA!" when describing the "new breed of fighter," people still generally train various single disciplines that they can use to develop a complete skill set for MMA. Joe Rogan has high level experience training and competing in both striking and grappling, and personally knows and works with the only human beings in the planet who have watched more high-level MMA than he has. I think by any reasonable metric he can be considered an expert.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

Bundt Cake posted:

it was based on some voodoo science poo poo about blood pooling in certain muscles tiring people out.

i dont know what they said in the media at the time but i watched the fight yesterday and they just were trying to wear the chubby hawaian man out by grinding him into the fence. but then kenny got tired first due in no small part to bj punching him in the face and body really hard every time they separated

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Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



*Josuke Higashikata bursts out of breath into local Ancient Greek History university lecture* excuse me "professor," were you there when Plato first addressed the Academy? Did you personally take up a pike and march in a phalanx to defend Athens from the Persian scourge? Of course not, you fraud. You fool. You goddamned moron

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