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The jazz have some horrible curse at the PG spot. George Hill keeps dying, and they tried the no PG look with Burks/Hood/Hayward and Burks hasn't played once this season
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Whiteside is like the most consistently poo poo on player on this entire discussion thread. Whiteside was by far the best shot blocker in the NBA last year, and was top 7 in every advanced statistical category for defense. He was by far the best player on last year's Heat team and easily one of the best defensive players in the NBA. Totally objectively earned his DPOY position. Everyone is constantly on that guy with bullshit arguments for what reason I will never really be able to figure out. I don't even like him or the Heat in the slightest, but the arguments in here about him are just off the rails.
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It's kinda like a rubber band-ey argument where he was bad at defense when he first started exploding so people kept bringing it up as counter to people being excited about him, and then he got better but people still whine about it.
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Jack's Flow posted:There's no way Portland would trade Lillard, right? I suggested last week that they should try to move Lillard for Cousins. It'll never happen though, Lillard is one of the more marketable young guys in the league.
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attackmole posted:It's kinda like a rubber band-ey argument where he was bad at defense when he first started exploding so people kept bringing it up as counter to people being excited about him, and then he got better but people still whine about it. Speaking about this, Pels fan/blogger Kumar told me that AD is the best PnR defender this year. I remember him being so terrible at it, so I went and looked it up and, yup, he's holding opposing roll-men to the lowest ppp in the league (minimum 30 possessions on the season): http://stats.nba.com/players/roll-man/#!?sort=PPP&dir=-1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&OD=defensive&CF=Poss*GE*30 AD might have finally moved into the category of an honest-to-goodness good defender this season, guys. Also, E'Twaun Moore has been an absolute beast defensively.
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Papercut posted:I suggested last week that they should try to move Lillard for Cousins. It'll never happen though, Lillard is one of the more marketable young guys in the league. It'll never happen but it's because Boogie is way better at basketball
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how'd I do? Just to be clear on what I'm seeing here... Dame goes over the screen, then switches anyway??
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Fast Luck posted:Just to be clear on what I'm seeing here... Dame goes over the screen, then switches anyway?? Dame goes over the screen, then switches. McCollum does react to the switch but gets completely lost trying to get around Asik and appears to need to consult a map. I don't know exactly if Plumlee did anything wrong but he certainly looks dumb doing it.
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Libertine posted:Whiteside is like the most consistently poo poo on player on this entire discussion thread. The Heat, a well coached-team, decided Amare Stoudamire's corpse was more useful to give playing time to than Whiteside in December.
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Time posted:It'll never happen but it's because Boogie is way better at basketball Obviously he is. That's why the important word in my post is "try". The argument you make to Sacramento is that Dame is a million times more marketable than Cousins, plus he's locked up, so he could make sense from a business perspective.
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Kibner posted:Speaking about this, Pels fan/blogger Kumar told me that AD is the best PnR defender this year. I remember him being so terrible at it, so I went and looked it up and, yup, he's holding opposing roll-men to the lowest ppp in the league (minimum 30 possessions on the season): That number doesn't tell you how well he defended the pick and roll, it tells you how well he defended the pick and roll when the screener got the ball and made a scoring attempt, which is like 10% of all pick and rolls.
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attackmole posted:George Hill is on my fantasy team, I feel every game he misses like a stab in the heart so I keep pretty good count of em. Same and it's driving me nuts!! I voted for Gobert B)
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Hopping onto a conversation from a few pages back, but I do think you could add a little more parity to the NBA if you wanted to, buy increasing/eliminating the max salary. The best players in the league are always going to be good, but a relatively low max salary is always going to ensure that they're one of the best places to get value on other teams. This could maybe play out a little bit with the new rules allowing the best players access to the highest max after 7 years instead of 10. It's good for those players, obviously, but actually paying those players closer to what they're worth makes them less of a source of excess value.
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Lockback posted:He certainly looks dumb doing it. I don't know if he did anything wrong but he certainly looks dumb doing it - The Mason Plumlee Story
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Paul Zuvella posted:If that's your logic than Rudy Gobert should be an all star way before Draymond.
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Fast Luck posted:how'd I do? A+ ballot
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How on Earth did Isaiah Thomas become an all star PG two years after being traded by the Kings for scrap? Is it the magic of Handsome Brad?
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Shear Modulus posted:How on Earth did Isaiah Thomas become an all star PG two years after being traded by the Kings for scrap? Is it the magic of Handsome Brad? He was good in Sacramento too and that was a bad trade, but in some fairness IT is super talented but he needs to be in the right situation to shine. A lot of teams and a lot of situations would have not gotten a ton of value from him either.
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Isaiah Thomas was great on the Kings, which is why they tripped over themselves rushing to replace him with certified Real Point Guard Darren Collison. Phoenix was about his worst, but he was also playing with Bledsoe/Dragic. In short: Pete D'Alessandro
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IT was comically undervalued by the Kings and then Suns and I don't really know why
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Space Camp fuckup posted:IT was comically undervalued by the Kings and then Suns and I don't really know why It's because he's short.
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dokmo posted:That number doesn't tell you how well he defended the pick and roll, it tells you how well he defended the pick and roll when the screener got the ball and made a scoring attempt, which is like 10% of all pick and rolls. Hmmm... is their any public stat you know of that will tell me the outcome of every pick and roll a defender is involved in, regardless if a scoring attempt does not directly result from it?
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I can't believe people are voting for kimba walker kyle lowery and carl anthony towns
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I remember him being good on the Kings (better than Collison which, lol, I forgot that poo poo) but not **great**.Space Camp fuckup posted:IT was comically undervalued by the Kings and then Suns and I don't really know why Could just be his height or his low draft position and people not rethinking their existing biases. chunkles posted:In short: Pete D'Alessandro
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Kibner posted:Hmmm... is their any public stat you know of that will tell me the outcome of every pick and roll a defender is involved in, regardless if a scoring attempt does not directly result from it? Luckily there is none yet! Word is, the league is working on this. 
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euphronius posted:Is there a stat which describes the difference between a players actual field goal percentage with what the expected field goal percentage would be for the shots he or she takes? http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/expected-effective-field-goal-percentage/ I don't see a byline but someone did it for nylon calculus two years ago. I dont know if you oculd still do it because of sportvu hiding some defender distance stuff
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dokmo posted:Luckily there is none yet! Your posts make me feel like an important insider or something. 
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dokmo posted:Luckily there is none yet! The color for Reggie Jackson as a pnr defender is RED meaning BAD
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I'm pretty sure people 'round here were calling IT the best late draft pick ever (up with Ginobili) when he was still on the Kings. His defense will always be really really bad but his offense is at least twice as good as his defense is bad.
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Dejan Bimble posted:The color for Reggie Jackson as a pnr defender is RED meaning BAD i'm sorry you must deal with reggie i feel your pain 
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EvanTH posted:I'm pretty sure people 'round here were calling IT the best late draft pick ever (up with Ginobili) when he was still on the Kings. This is accurate. The original "reason" he went was due to friction with Boogie, but they've both denied it.
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euphronius posted:In Chinese basketball analytics red means good Send Reggie to China then. In other news, the haunted Skirvin strikes again- http://newsok.com/oklahoma-hotel-developer-john-weemans-death-surprises-partners/article/5533020?earlyAccess=true
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