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Powershift posted:An aluminum truck with a 2.7 liter engine is the best selling truck in america. Maybe the "whurs mah big block" guy being the primary truck customer only exists in the mind of goons.
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I would buy a hybrid F-150 if it got 30 mpg combined Oh man that's another aspect I didn't think about. I like to mock the dudes that buy these trucks that don't use them at all but if their fuel economy is suddenly 30+ mpg then there goes the gas guzzler argument. Then all I'll have is how short angry dudes drive the biggest trucks 
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ilkhan posted:It'll depend on the fleet managers. A mild hybrid would significantly reduce their fuel costs. A more EV'ish hybrid will add nightmares for charging. We'll see. But they said the truck acts as a generator. If it's a plugin hybrid, plug it into the generator bit, bam, free electricity!
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I would buy a hybrid F-150 if it got 30 mpg combined I'd be drat tempted to do the same, honestly. It'd certainly be better for towing and hauling than my WJ, and at that kind of mileage it the only question of how much more it would cost to operate than my CR-V would be down to Ford reliability.
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Hybrids are also good at producing just stupid amounts of torque at close to zero RPM.
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Just what we need, faster accelerating large trucks. Aren't tuned Ecoboost f150s already at 0-60 5 secs?
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Christobevii3 posted:Just what we need, faster accelerating large trucks. Aren't tuned Ecoboost f150s already at 0-60 5 secs? Loaded up around 6.5. the raptor is 5.1 What is AI gonna do when an f-150 is faster and more fuel efficient than their car?
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Powershift posted:Loaded up around 6.5. the raptor is 5.1 What, besides buy a vehicle that actually fits me? E: I mean I love my MSP but I'd give it up in a second for a roomy pickup truck that was faster AND more fuel efficient.
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Powershift posted:Loaded up around 6.5. the raptor is 5.1 Buy a
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I would buy a hybrid F-150 if it got 30 mpg combined  I get 30-32 mpg every tank in my 6. If I could get an F150 to match that, you bet your rear end I'd have one. Having a bed without sacrificing mileage would be awesome.
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Jan 5, 2017 01:21
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This is just like Demolition Man but instead of Taco Bell it's F150s
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Jan 5, 2017 01:49
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I still would want a Ranger-sized truck versus a current F150 sized truck, even at 30MPG
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Jan 5, 2017 02:14
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ill still be in something thats actually comfortable and fun
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Jan 5, 2017 02:42
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PCOS Bill posted:I still would want a Ranger-sized truck versus a current F150 sized truck, even at 30MPG I'm vain enough to drive around my kei van all the time so I'd probably drive around a kei truck before an F150 but if Ford does things like we are talking about who can you possible fault for getting an F150? Cheap, powerful, fast and useful.
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Powershift posted:I'm just sayin, the raptor has 450hp and 510ftlbs. Drop the 4x4 stuff. put a 100hp hub motor a side up front. slip some 325 wide rubber on all 4 corners under the bulgy raptor fenders in a RC/5.5 box. Then put a cage in the back and sell it to the police as the new police interceptor?
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Proud Christian Mom posted:ill still be in something thats actually comfortable and fun Trucks are already quite plusg comfortable A lightened, lowered rwd/awd F-150 with 400+ hp and magnaride shocks would be fun
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KakerMix posted:my kei van Did you make a thread about this? Super interested in the process.
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I feel claustrophobic in trucks because they just don't fit in so many places.
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bull3964 posted:I feel claustrophobic in trucks because they just don't fit in so many places. Yeah my knees touch the dash on the passenger seat of a chevy 1500 where my veloster turbo has much more room
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butterbar posted:Then put a cage in the back and sell it to the police as the new police interceptor? The police are getting hybrid interceptors, too, both models. I doubt anybody would be sad if they dropped the taurus, the exploder seems perfect for police duty. car-like enough to chase down baddies, SUV like enough to stick a bunch of poo poo in the back and stuff jerks into the back without wanging their head off the door. They might be doing the same thing as mercedes with the alternator/generator/starter all 1 device between the engine and transmission.
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Jan 5, 2017 04:28
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Christobevii3 posted:Yeah my knees touch the dash on the passenger seat of a chevy 1500 where my veloster turbo has much more room I'm not talking about the inside, I'm talking about the outside. It makes me feel claustrophobic to squeeze into parking spaces or narrow side roads.
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bull3964 posted:I'm not talking about the inside, I'm talking about the outside. It makes me feel claustrophobic to squeeze into parking spaces or narrow side roads. Smart cars make sense in cities and are stupid for suburbs. Trucks make sense is the suburbs and are stupid for cities. It's almost like both should be sold and embraced depending on where people live and how they enjoy their time.
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I live in suburbia and it's all still too close. If I had a buck for every F150 hanging 4 feet into the lane in every parking lot I visit, I could have retired a decade ago. poo poo may work in Texas, but stuff in the northeast just isn't setup for it.
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Do you like door dings? Parking spaces are getting smaller too, even at suburban Wal Marts but especially in "big city" garages.
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Christobevii3 posted:Yeah my knees touch the dash on the passenger seat of a chevy 1500 where my veloster turbo has much more room Are you 9' tall? The new F150 may be the most comfortable vehicle I've sat in that wasn't a super luxo barge. God drat is that truck nice.
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No? I'm 6'3'? The dash in the passenger seat has less room than my 97 ranger did. Also, yes the truck is huge as gently caress to park anywhere in south Louisiana wtf.
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savesthedayrocks posted:Did you make a thread about this? Super interested in the process. I did although I made one on reddit too that had (naturally) a bunch more responses and much more info regarding what it's actually like to get one. I've had it since March and it owns just as hard now as it did then. I can answer any questions you have with what my experience was like. Now that it's snowbird season I've been getting way more attention. That we're all talking about size and what it's like to drive trucks around in a statement that won't surprise anyone having a kei vehicle in a city is ace as all hell because you can't fill in a spot enough to even get door dings. No tall people though 5'9" is about the confortable limit.
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ilkhan posted:It'll depend on the fleet managers. A mild hybrid would significantly reduce their fuel costs. A more EV'ish hybrid will add nightmares for charging. We'll see. Wireless charging systems are being specifically targeted at fleets for exactly this reason.
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Powershift posted:Loaded up around 6.5. the raptor is 5.1 What is that sound Its the sound of ten fighter jets Its the sound of more boost than god
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KakerMix posted:I did although I made one on reddit too that had (naturally) a bunch more responses and much more info regarding what it's actually like to get one. I've had it since March and it owns just as hard now as it did then. I can answer any questions you have with what my experience was like. Now that it's snowbird season I've been getting way more attention. My friend is a touch over six feet and daily drives a Daihatsu Midget II. That thing has the cutest little Blazzaks on in winter. Getting parts is a bitch, though. I've only driven it once, but it's a total blast. Sure, you're not going to get on a highway with it, but locally it's phenomenal.
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To my dismay, not a hatchback in sight. loving Subaru. http://media.subaru.com/newsrelease.do?id=1067&mid=117&allImage=1&teaser=subaru-debuts-2018-wrx-wrx-sti-performance-comfort
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BloodBag posted:To my dismay, not a hatchback in sight. loving Subaru. Pretty sure Subaru had some kind of upgrade in the works for the 2018 MY, but then Ford debuted the Focus RS and they just said   and went back to the drawing board.
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Cadillac is bring out a "car as a service" type thing. Basically you pay $1500 a month on a month to month subscription and always have whatever cadillac you want in your driveway, and when you want to switch they come and change it out. They cover insurance/rego/maintinence. https://www.bookbycadillac.com/#benefits-slide2 That means you can have a manual ATS-V and then punch some stuff into the app and say you want a CTS-V for a while and if you want to go skiing you can call in an escalade. with 18 free swaps a year. I would imagine most luxury vehicles you lose more than $18k in first year depreciation without factoring in maintinence or insurance.
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Powershift posted:Cadillac is bring out a "car as a service" type thing. Basically you pay $1500 a month on a month to month subscription and always have whatever cadillac you want in your driveway, and when you want to switch they come and change it out. They cover insurance/rego/maintinence. Very interesting concept. Too expensive for me of course, but as someone interested in the concept of a lease with the huge advantage of being month-to-month, it would be nice. You mentioned the CTS-V. I see in the fine print you can have the CTS-V for a maximum of five days 'per usage,' whatever that means. I would love to see something like this from other and less expensive manufacturers. Has an initiation fee, but it's only $500. I wonder if you can do it one month, cancel for a few months, then start up again without re-paying the initiation fee. Michael Scott fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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1500 seems rough. I'd do that for 800.
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euphronius posted:1500 seems rough. I'd do that for 800. 36 month lease on a Escalade is 850 with 4500 down. Factor in registration and insurance and there's no way the program would fly for 800 a month.
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euphronius posted:1500 seems rough. I'd do that for 800. I would imagine in 10-20 years, you'll be able to sign up for ford or chevrolet for a couple hundred a month, and have the same thing, with the caveat that they won't have steering wheels and they won't sit in your driveway when you're not using them.
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I think it's an interesting model, and with where it's priced it probably isn't a big increase over a traditional lease + insurance for people who are swapping out the latest and greatest luxury cars every couple years already. And for that increase in cost, you now can have anything Cadillac makes. Get a CT6, XTS, or Escalade when you've got a long road trip coming up, ATS, XT5 or CTS when you're planning on staying in town, ATS-V or CTS-V when you feel like shredding someone else's tires.
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kimcicle posted:36 month lease on a Escalade is 850 with 4500 down. Factor in registration and insurance and there's no way the program would fly for 800 a month. Escapade is the most expensive cadalliac tho by a mile right ?
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The cadillac CT6 has only been on sale for 10 months, and you can already find some that have lost over $15k off sticker in 4000 miles. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/689205427/overview/ Unlimited mileage and Being able to turn it into an escalade when you have family in town are nice bonuses.
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