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GobiasIndustries posted:Anyone who spends more than an hour or two in a car per day also probably finds it a godsend. My dad drives to a ton of different sites for his job, having uninterrupted radio feeds all day for him is super cool. I used to have it in a company car, and I liked having it before I started listening to podcasts, so I'm not saying it's worthless (though there's no way in the world I'd pay for it myself). I'm just saying I don't think most people who are target customers for Howl have ever paid for radio before.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Anyone who spends more than an hour or two in a car per day also probably finds it a godsend. My dad drives to a ton of different sites for his job, having uninterrupted radio feeds all day for him is super cool. help me please
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Eww. I just noticed some downloads in my iTunes that are essentially "The full archive of xyz can now be found on Howl Premium" For a couple of podcasts. Kinda gross feeling.
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i would not have a problem with any of this if the howl app wasn't absolute garbage for finding or playing poscasts
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cams posted:i would not have a problem with any of this if the howl app wasn't absolute garbage for finding or playing poscasts It's literally DRM that makes you pay to have a product that's less functional than it was when it was free.
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I listen to all my podcasts on my iPod Classic. So now instead of listening to podcasts on my iPod for free, they want to me to pay money for content I can no longer use on my device of choice. Makes sense.
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Howl app works fine for me This post sponsored by midroll llc
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HateTheInternet posted:I listen to all my podcasts on my iPod Classic. You can pay, find the MP3 addresses in the html, download them, apply 'remember position' in iTunes and use them on your device. edit: I can't stop listening to the With Special Guest PFT+Scott anniversary show. "Your kisses are like da bomb to me." Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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The Best Show's recent Patreon route seems like a much better fit for podcasts. Tom is asking for help in order to replace ads and support the show instead of demanding it in order to charge for previously free content. Earwolf has gotten too big. It was a fairly tight-knit community, but corporate interests are controlling the future of its content. I'm disappointed with the accusations of people wanting to freeload off of old content, which defeats the original spirit of Earwolf podcasts. They are niche shows that do not require a large budget to produce. The guests are not paid, and the hosts are barely paid. The comments made by Sean & Hayes and by Howard Kremer on their respective shows indicate that there hasn't been a huge change in how much hosts get paid since the launch of Howl. Their comments are not reassuring. The few times earlier on where Scott and others asked for donations were poorly thought out. They promised shout-outs on the shows, and then promptly forgot to do those shout-outs on CBB. It's like they never wanted to give a donation model a fair chance to succeed.
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This might just be the way I listen to podcasts, but is "check out all the other shows on X Network" really work for anyone? I'm not browsing the Maximum Fun network for other shows because they carry The Greatest Generation, nor do I look at the Slideshow network because I listen to We Hate Movies.
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I've listened to MBMBAM spinoff podcasts and went from The Flophouse to Jordan Jesse Go and a few others .
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MisterBibs posted:This might just be the way I listen to podcasts, but is "check out all the other shows on X Network" really work for anyone? I'm not browsing the Maximum Fun network for other shows because they carry The Greatest Generation, nor do I look at the Slideshow network because I listen to We Hate Movies. I mean if I like a few shows on a podcast network I'll be more likely to check out a new show on their network but really I'm not loyal to any podcasting network.
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One of the first podcasts I listened to was the Jordan Jesse Go archive. As a result of that show's loose format it also kind of chronicles the development of the Max Fun network, so that got me pretty invested in checking out a few of their other shows once I got up to date (MBMBAM, Throwing Shade, etc).
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The_Rob posted:I mean if I like a few shows on a podcast network I'll be more likely to check out a new show on their network but really I'm not loyal to any podcasting network. The style of humor on Earwolf seems much more consistent to me than on any other podcasting network. Maybe it's because there are so many shared guests across shows, but CBB, I4H, and Spontaneanation play in roughly the same type of comedy. Heck, even Hollywood Handbook, Pistol Shrimps Radio, and a number of others don't deviate too far. Though I suppose there are quite a few podcasts on Earwolf that I forget exist and have zero interest in, so maybe my thinking is just selective. Though Earwolf scooped up NNF, PSR, and Superego which were my main non-Earwolf comedy podcasts. Though I guess that just goes back to the shared guests idea. e: Hey! I4H actually had an interesting musical guest. That makes two with Dan Deacon! feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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I'm still able to download 2y old episodes of HH on podcast addict. 
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MisterBibs posted:This might just be the way I listen to podcasts, but is "check out all the other shows on X Network" really work for anyone? I'm not browsing the Maximum Fun network for other shows because they carry The Greatest Generation, nor do I look at the Slideshow network because I listen to We Hate Movies. I found out about Greatest Gen thru ads on other Max Fun shows, so it kinda works I guess. WHM never plugs other shows at all, and as a consequence of that I don't know anything about the Sideshow network. So I guess it just depends on the willingness of networks to promote other shows.
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yorkinshire posted:I'm still able to download 2y old episodes of HH on podcast addict. Maybe they've only put the good podcasts behind the paywall.  But really they may keep some podcasts out there to help build up some more listeners/interest? "I can't listen to old CBBs anymore I guess I'll check out HH"
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Nope. There was a post by Shannon at Midroll or someone else with equal authority who said that more podcasts would be put behind the paywall soon. The Hollywood Handbook archives will be taken away soon. The Reality Show Show was already taken down in this first batch. Edit: Actually, who knows at this point? They were silent on the Howl paywall for several months before actually doing anything. They may never get to it, or it could happen in the next few days. They don't care. Know Such Peace fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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I4H also isn't behind the paywall, and I can guarantee you nobody likes those ads. I'm guessing it's either a) more of a slow rollout where everything will eventually be behind the paywall, or b) they're putting the most popular shows behind the paywall and the others can act as an advertisement to funnel new folks to the bigger shows and Howl. Or, I guess, c) they have no idea what they're doing and scrambling. Probably that one.
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It was kinda a let down seeing the ADPPP have a new episode indicated and it just be a paywall notification.
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I'm guessing that all "completed" podcasts like RSS, Mike Detective, and ADPPP are behind the paywall.
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The Ape of Naples posted:Maybe they've only put the good podcasts behind the paywall. personally I think this post is: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............. wrong!!!
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The Ape of Naples posted:I'm guessing that all "completed" podcasts like RSS, Mike Detective, and ADPPP are behind the paywall. This is such a kick in the balls. I had those shows on 'don't delete' in iTunes so luckily I still have my copies, but seeing a new episode notification only to have it be 'lol you gotta pay for this poo poo now!' is pretty lovely.
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Yeah, for a split second I thought there was a new Mike Detective. Hopefully they don't think to take these down: "Season 1" of Mike Detective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWjnBFy56qc 136 episodes of Affirmation Nation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyVKYsMxneo
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The thing that is bad is how thy bungled the roll out and then the app was and is trash. If they appeared as if they knew what they were doing it might actually make me want to subscribe.
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Unofficial Howl.fm RSS Feeds If you subscribe to Howl you can use this link to get RSS feeds of the shows and integrate them into any other podcast app. I don't mind paying for Howl, but if they ever block this site without adding their own RSS feeds, I'd cancel it in a second.
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feedmyleg posted:The style of humor on Earwolf seems much more consistent to me than on any other podcasting network. Maybe it's because there are so many shared guests across shows, but CBB, I4H, and Spontaneanation play in roughly the same type of comedy. Heck, even Hollywood Handbook, Pistol Shrimps Radio, and a number of others don't deviate too far. Though I suppose there are quite a few podcasts on Earwolf that I forget exist and have zero interest in, so maybe my thinking is just selective. Feral Audio is the most consistently in line with Earwolf as it's run by their former OG engineer Dustin and like Earwolf is basically audio UCB.
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I just don't see how the howl.fm model survives without going really big and scooping up the archives of a large number of the popular podcasts. I've mentioned it in other posts, but splicing new ads into old episodes seems like a far more viable model. How many old episodes have ads for lovely sites/product/promos that don't even exist anymore.
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n8r posted:I just don't see how the howl.fm model survives without going really big and scooping up the archives of a large number of the popular podcasts. I've mentioned it in other posts, but splicing new ads into old episodes seems like a far more viable model. How many old episodes have ads for lovely sites/product/promos that don't even exist anymore. That would require organization as things are recorded, and that's the best time for engineers to watch basketball.
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n8r posted:I just don't see how the howl.fm model survives without going really big and scooping up the archives of a large number of the popular podcasts. I've mentioned it in other posts, but splicing new ads into old episodes seems like a far more viable model. How many old episodes have ads for lovely sites/product/promos that don't even exist anymore. iirc they mentioned that part of the reason they started Howl is because new ads in old episodes isn't worth the time it takes to implement?
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Srice posted:iirc they mentioned that part of the reason they started Howl is because new ads in old episodes isn't worth the time it takes to implement? It could be done automatically without issue. I wrote a single page script that puts together slices of audio, recombines them into a single valid file, then offers it for download. It took less than a day and I had zero idea what I was doing beforehand.
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The Ape of Naples posted:Paul Scheer is calling out the paywall at the top of the latest HDTGM. Oh wow, he really is! It may be the first time I've ever heard him being serious.
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Huh. I was expecting it to be some HH-style ribbing, but nope. Just straight-up called the whole mess out. From what it sounds like there might be some wiggle room in terms of alternate models coming down the pipeline, though. I'm pretty sure the thing that got me 100% on board Hollywood Handbook was them just outright insulting the Howl app and paywall for months and months with seemingly no consequences whatsoever.
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I just listened to Paul's response. Jason, June, and Paul weren't even aware that the paywall was going up at this point, and they want to figure out a better solution for their listeners. Who the gently caress is in control of Howl?
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The sinister Mr Scripps.
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