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The marketing being nonexistent is probably due to fallout 4. Didn't they reveal it in September and then release it nov? Regardless of its quality, it made a shitload of money and EA execs are probably looking to do something similar
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marshmallow creep posted:It's not just a simple jump forward, but it's not a hover mode either. People are complaining about them not showing enough, but they can't even remember the little we've seen. 
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Lurks Morington posted:The marketing being nonexistent is probably due to fallout 4. Didn't they reveal it in September and then release it nov? Regardless of its quality, it made a shitload of money and EA execs are probably looking to do something similar Revealed in June, IIRC. And, if I remember the reveal right, they showed off the new approach to power armor, settlement building and, I'm pretty sure, character generation and the pre-war prologue. I think they also showed the dog, too. Maybe even the vertibird? They definitely dropped the Shelter app at the same time. Like, if that is what Bioware is trying for, they've shown nothing remotely equivalent. I'm really not a fan of Bethesda but the FO4 reveal was really quite something.
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^^^ - and look how poo poo the game turned out. Marketing strategy's not a concern.Android Blues posted:Not even three minutes, it's literally one minute twenty seconds of menu browsing and shooting drones. The rest is "ship flying through space/landing" cutscenes. I'm sure they'll push more marketing after January, when the release is closer. I mean, you start marketing too soon and people forget about it.
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Drifter posted:^^^ - and look how poo poo the game turned out. Marketing strategy's not a concern. Forget about a new Mass Effect game? I doubt it. Bioware's a Good Developer, people aren't just going to ignore a new release from them. The longer people have to talk about it the more hyped they'll be.
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orangelex44 posted:Forget about a new Mass Effect game? I doubt it. Bioware's a Good Developer, people aren't just going to ignore a new release from them. The longer people have to talk about it the more hyped they'll be. Or angry, given ME3 on release. 
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Drifter posted:Or angry, given ME3 on release. I don't know. I felt the Bioware had more to prove after DA2, than I do about them failing to stick the landing at the end of ME3.
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Drifter posted:^^^ - and look how poo poo the game turned out. Marketing strategy's not a concern. This certainly is a post.
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Fallout 4, ME 2 and 3, DA2, DAI were indeed poo poo bad games
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what RPG developer actually understands why their games are successful and follows up on that? CDPR? Thats it?
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Phi230 posted:what RPG developer actually understands why their games are successful and follows up on that? More or less and if you lower your standards a bit, maybe whatever Obsidian is doing.
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Official Mass Effect Facebook page spends a week hyping up the NVIDIA CES 2017 keynote, telling people to watch it so they can see Andromeda "in action". *thirty seconds of a ship flying around* *thirty seconds of menus* *one minute of running around and shooting at things*
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You're right. They probably got a pretty good return in terms of eyes on their product for just posting a series of images to facebook and twitter everyday. Maybe you have a future in marketing, kid.
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Phi230 posted:Fallout 4, ME 2 and 3, DA2, DAI were indeed poo poo bad games one of these is not the same as the others
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Moola posted:one of these is not the same as the others yeah but Bioware and Fallout both had the same fall from grace (except beth never made good games)
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Phi230 posted:what RPG developer actually understands why their games are successful and follows up on that? Bethesda pretty obviously does.
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Phi230 posted:what RPG developer actually understands why their games are successful and follows up on that? CDPR had a big advantage for TW3 because the first games were relatively low profile. So they could ditch entire systems, rework lovely mechanics, ignore most of the plot from the previous game, and basically change the entire game without people complaining that they weren't just remaking
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Enigmatic Cakelord posted:You're right. They probably got a pretty good return in terms of eyes on their product for just posting a series of images to facebook and twitter everyday. Maybe you have a future in marketing, kid. Who knew Jarrett Lee posted in this thread?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Bethesda pretty obviously does. lol dude good one
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Both Bioware and Bethesda make good games. CDPR does blow them out of the water though.
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Phi230 posted:lol dude good one Fallout 3 made a shitload of money, got good reviews and was widely liked. So they followed it up with Fallout 4, which didn't change much and also made a shitload of money, got good reviews, and was widely liked. Same with the various Elder Scrolls games. I think it's pretty safe to say they know why their games are successful, because they keep making successful games.
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Moola posted:one of these is not the same as the others yeah fallout 4 was pretty decent
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Fallout 3 made a shitload of money, got good reviews and was widely liked. So they followed it up with Fallout 4, which didn't change much and also made a shitload of money, got good reviews, and was widely liked. Same with the various Elder Scrolls games. I think it's pretty safe to say they know why their games are successful, because they keep making successful games. FO3 is poo poo, FO4 is poo poo and people woke up to how poo poo Skyrim and FO4 are after Witcher 3 came out. Like its not a big leap to understand that the market for RPGs is starved and literally a piece of poo poo in a box would make a ton of money if sold to RPG fans.
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Phi230 posted:people woke up to how poo poo Skyrim and FO4 are after Witcher 3 came out  People who play Skyrim and Fallout 4 are pretty much playing them for everything they do that Witcher 3 doesn't, and don't give a gently caress about anything else.
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Phi230 posted:FO3 is poo poo, FO4 is poo poo and people woke up to how poo poo Skyrim and FO4 are after Witcher 3 came out. quote:Like its not a big leap to understand that the market for RPGs is starved and literally a piece of poo poo in a box would make a ton of money if sold to RPG fans.
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Skyrim and Witcher 3 aren't even the same type of game. Picking a direction and exploring random dungeons in Skyrim blows TW3 out of the loving water and that's why people play Skyrim, but TW3 does everything else better.
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hampig posted:Skyrim and Witcher 3 aren't even the same type of game. Picking a direction and exploring random dungeons in Skyrim blows TW3 out of the loving water and that's why people play Skyrim, but TW3 does everything else better. yeah dude I love fighting the same enemies in the same caves for no rhyme or reason
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LOL beth put a blind guy with a blank book! depth! look guys! depth!
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They just said what the release date was. They probably were avoiding too much promotion in case they had to push it back. People are just getting back to work from the holidays and the game has over 2 months before release. There is plenty of time to put out more information. Might also be that they agreed to give other people "exclusive first looks" or something so had to get those out of the way. And yeah, people are already making up complaints that were shown in the one longer gamplay demo they did show.
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My character's blank emotionless face twitched once, best RPG ever made. SO much emotion I cried IRL
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Phi230 posted:My character's blank emotionless face twitched once, best RPG ever made. SO much emotion I cried IRL The Witcher 2 was pretty underwhelming, I agree. frajaq posted:I don't understand why people still get worked up so much about Bioware/Bethesda these days, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives if you want good RPGs with depth and complexity lately There are a lot of legitimate complaints to be made about them as developers. None of those points are being made in this thread. Enigmatic Cakelord fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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I don't understand why people still get worked up so much about Bioware/Bethesda these days, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives if you want good RPGs with depth and complexity lately
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frajaq posted:I don't understand why people still get worked up so much about Bioware/Bethesda these days, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives if you want good RPGs with depth and complexity lately Because their games get increasingly worse in frustrating ways and I have nothing better to do
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frajaq posted:I don't understand why people still get worked up so much about Bioware/Bethesda these days, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives if you want good RPGs with depth and complexity lately It's easier to be snarky on the internet than it is to play good games. Case in point, this post.
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frajaq posted:I don't understand why people still get worked up so much about Bioware/Bethesda these days, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives if you want good RPGs with depth and complexity lately I've been pretty happy with the offerings of Bethesda and Bioware but also I thought Pillars of Eternity and Wasteland 2 were great.
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frajaq posted:I don't understand why people still get worked up so much about Bioware/Bethesda these days, it's not like there's a lack of alternatives if you want good RPGs with depth and complexity lately Trolling the people who like Bioware/Bethesda games, probably
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Serf posted:I've been pretty happy with the offerings of Bethesda and Bioware but also I thought Pillars of Eternity and Wasteland 2 were great. Agreed, I have 100+ hours in both Fallout 4 and Pillars of Eternity as my most played games last year, they both have their ups and downs
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SgtSteel91 posted:Trolling the people who like Bioware/Bethesda games, probably but we have already trolled ourselves by definition
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Enigmatic Cakelord posted:People are complaining about them not showing enough, but they can't even remember the little we've seen. I'm still astonished how boring that shot is. It's a jetpack assisted charge, pretty much the Vanguard dream, and yet... no impact. It could be the fact it's an early build (hopefully) but none of the shots of charge so far have had any weight to them. Odd.
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chiasaur11 posted:I'm still astonished how boring that shot is. All the fancy effects are super low quality so consoles can run it.
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