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lol you didn't study a radically different language for over a decade to gain a measure of fluency, if you'd actually done than then
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Final Fantasy 15 is a bad game
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The GIG posted:What does this even mean He's still angry over a conversation from like a month ago
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Jan 5, 2017 16:59
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7's translation was pretty bad though. And I'm pretty sure they going to rewrite anything that's 20 years old and slammed out by a small amount of dudes on crunch.
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Hey Fingercuffs posted:My only snag so far has been tracking down a copy of Dawn of Souls. Gamestop online had it before the holiday and now they don't which means after I get paid this weekend hitting the streets and hoping a local one has it in stock. I'd recommend the PSP versions over the GBA one anyway...the GBA spritework is just so messy in comparison.
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jivjov posted:I'd recommend the PSP versions over the GBA one anyway...the GBA spritework is just so messy in comparison. Never owned a PSP so my options are either Origins on the PS1 or tracking down Dawn of Souls. Id rather find the GBA but if the cost is too great I'll just have to suck it up and get the PS1 port(which I hear is even worse).
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Worst part of the FF7 translation is keeping Cait Sith in the game. PS1 FF1 is the fixed version of the NES version and pretty different from the GBA version. No bonus dungeons, keeps spell charges and spell targeting the same. Still good, and there's an easy mode that gives you more spell charges and lets you level to 99. I prefer PS1 version but either is fine.
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replace cait sith with the more thematically appropriate Stabs-You-In-The-Back Untrustworthyson
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If going for a more authentic run of FF1 go with the PS1 version. If you hate yourself while wanting to see how it all began play on the nes and find out that potions heal for 40 goddamn HP holy poo poo gently caress you ice cavern.
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Barudak posted:If going for a more authentic run of FF1 go with the PS1 version. Man I used to have the NES FF Cart but pretty sure one of my old room mates ran off with it like he did my copy of Majora's Mask for N64. I also have FF on my Wii Virtual Console, the only real reason i'm trying to track one of these down is because of 2 which I have never played and has only gotten statewide release in a couple hard to get forms these days.
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Jan 5, 2017 18:03
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I knew FFX-2 starts with a ridiculous J-pop concert but when it came to I was still really embarrassed for myself. Oh well, let's drink to a game I haven't played in ten years that has a killer class system! 
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Jan 5, 2017 18:08
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I never use Yojimbo's Zanmato because it's stupid and I played the game to play a game, but the question stands. There's no actual drawback to using Zanmato if you're inclined to use it to make everything easy, and if you're willing to do that, why not just save scum until you get it for next to nothing. It's essentially a win cheat so double down on the cheating save yourself the aggro. "Nerfing" Quick Hit shows they cared about game balance on a level but not enough to remove the win button or properly make it so Quick Hit isn't essentially your go-to ability. So why bother when it has no impact on game balance for any person outside of yourself, who still uses the same move over and over? Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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I've beaten FF1 and Dragon Warrior on the NES. I had a lot of free time as a kid.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I've beaten FF1 and Dragon Warrior on the NES. I had a lot of free time as a kid. I did the same and even tried to beat Ultima: Runes of Virtue but could never wrap my head around it as a kid.
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DoubleCakes posted:I knew FFX-2 starts with a ridiculous J-pop concert but when it came to I was still really embarrassed for myself. what can I do for you? I. Can't. Hear. You. Idk what you mean, best intro ever.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I've beaten FF1 and Dragon Warrior on the NES. I had a lot of free time as a kid. The original FF is the first game I ever beat, and to this day I've beat it more than any other FF, most recently a month or so ago via the PSP version on my Vita 
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DoubleCakes posted:I knew FFX-2 starts with a ridiculous J-pop concert but when it came to I was still really embarrassed for myself.
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Hey Fingercuffs posted:My only snag so far has been tracking down a copy of Dawn of Souls. Gamestop online had it before the holiday and now they don't which means after I get paid this weekend hitting the streets and hoping a local one has it in stock. You can it on mobile as well. I don't think it adds anything that isn't in the GBA version.
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Jan 5, 2017 23:25
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Dang! The fight against Flux Seymour was AWESOME. I Game Over'ed on that fight twice at first but on a third try with some proper use of Hastega, Bio, Silence Buster and Protect he went down easily.
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Jan 5, 2017 23:58
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DoubleCakes posted:I knew FFX-2 starts with a ridiculous J-pop concert but when it came to I was still really embarrassed for myself. Actually both Concerts in FFX-2 are cool and fun and set the tone for what the game wants to do. 1000 Words is one of the single best moments in FF history and actually succeeds at it's emotional goal which puts it way above most of the franchises writing.
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ImpAtom posted:He's still angry over a conversation from like a month ago I get where he's coming from though. You made it sound like you shouldn't be able to enjoy FF7 because of the bad translation, when in fact, it's still a totally enjoyable game and much of the translation is still genuinely enjoyable if not totally accurate.
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Jack Trades posted:Dang! The fight against Flux Seymour was AWESOME. Congrats on beating the game's hardest boss.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Have you tried...not being ashamed of things you like? I know it's hard, goons are predisposed to deprecation of self and others, but it's very freeing if you manage it I'm usually not embarrassed though! This is the first time I've been embarrassed about a video game in quite some time. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Actually both Concerts in FFX-2 are cool and fun and set the tone for what the game wants to do. 1000 Words is one of the single best moments in FF history and actually succeeds at it's emotional goal which puts it way above most of the franchises writing. I agree to this as well. FFX was a rather dire story with only small moments of comedy and wit to break the tension, so FFX-2 just being an upbeat poppy adventure is perfect. It works even better than the response of FF13-2 to FF13, where FF13-2 was, again, poppier than the original and the story was lighter.
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bloodychill posted:I get where he's coming from though. You made it sound like you shouldn't be able to enjoy FF7 because of the bad translation, when in fact, it's still a totally enjoyable game and much of the translation is still genuinely enjoyable if not totally accurate. I don't think I've ever said or even implied that? Hell, if I said you couldn't enjoy a game because of a bad translation I wouldn't be recommending Escha & Logy every single time I get a chance! The entire conversation started because I pointed out that "they're going to change things, I just know it" runs into the barrier of "they may not even be aware they're 'changing' things" and I don't think that's something unfair or means you can't enjoy the game. It just means going "i'm going to be SO ANGRY if they change (thing I liked)" runs into the risk of (thing I like) being legitimately something made up by a translator who probably hasn't worked for S-E in a decade.
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ImpAtom posted:I don't think I've ever said or even implied that? Hell, if I said you couldn't enjoy a game because of a bad translation I wouldn't be recommending Escha & Logy every single time I get a chance! Or Wild ARMS 2.
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Coughing Hobo posted:Or Wild ARMS 2. To be fair in that case I recommend it because the translation is so awful it must be experienced.
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I mean, on a philosophical level it doesn't even matter if a translator made something up. I mean, it does, but if the hypothetical product that came out at the other end was completely different but still of the highest quality, it'd still be good. I'll bet the grand majority of us played the game in English only. I know I did. It's that old tree in the forest situation. If everything in FFVII was internally coherent and written using snappy, witty and easy to understand language, of very high quality but made significant changes from the original Japanese, who among us could tell? The fact of FFVII's translation not being great is something you and I can tell from looking at the result. It's as plain as the nose on your face. If you can't tell or even disagree then bully for you, honestly, but the ordeals the translation team had to endure to ship the product is a matter of record and any issue that ensued as a result is understandable and forgivable but still present and real in the end. Doesn't mean the game isn't great but I can't lie, I wish VII got the V GBA treatment.
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:I mean, on a philosophical level it doesn't even matter if a translator made something up. It does when you're discussing a remake of the game and if that remake will maintain characterization or plot elements you enjoyed though. I mean it's perfectly fair to go "Yeah, I like the localized version more." (I'll say this about FFVGBA to use your example!) It's just that you really can't depend on a Japanese developer and writer having the same nostalgia, nor a translator having the same idea of what should/shouldn't be changed or localized.
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Sure, I just mean in the abstract, like, if I'm playing a game right now and reading a sentence and the sentence is good and funny and I chuckled, whether it's a faithful adaptation of the original language or something made up from whole cloth doesn't matter at that moment in time.
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:Sure, I just mean in the abstract, like, if I'm playing a game right now and reading a sentence and the sentence is good and funny and I chuckled, whether it's a faithful adaptation of the original language or something made up from whole cloth doesn't matter at that moment in time. Yeah, that's entirely true. There's certainly some arguments to be made but there's also plenty of arguments that it doesn't overly matter. (Working Designs being a big example here, or something like Samurai Pizza Cats/Power Rangers if you want to talk about non-game stuff.)
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What's the game equivalent of Ghost Stories?
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kirbysuperstar posted:What's the game equivalent of Ghost Stories? I guess something like Tales of Hearts R where they made the script a lot more comedic than the original release.
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kirbysuperstar posted:What's the game equivalent of Ghost Stories? Final Fantasy V
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kirbysuperstar posted:What's the game equivalent of Ghost Stories? I would play it whatever it is.
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DoubleCakes posted:I knew FFX-2 starts with a ridiculous J-pop concert but when it came to I was still really embarrassed for myself. Have fun, it really is the best in the series
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DoubleCakes posted:I'm usually not embarrassed though! This is the first time I've been embarrassed about a video game in quite some time. Please tell us about why you are embarrassed by girls singing a song
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Speaking of FFX-2. I just realized that I missed 0.1% of story competition because I didn't want to marry a dude back in the first chapter (still finished the sidequest). This is what I get for trying to get 100% on the first run 
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Tidus is a better singer than Yuna, see all the FF songs done using his laugh.
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Txn posted:Speaking of FFX-2. I just realized that I missed 0.1% of story competition because I didn't want to marry a dude back in the first chapter (still finished the sidequest). That doesn't actually count for percentage.
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