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Shrek is a parody of all the traditional Disney movies because Jeffrey Katzenberg was really bitter about Michael Eisner not promoting him to be company president.
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One gripe, among many, I have with the prequels is that Anakin and Obi-Wan should at least be a decade older. Obi-Wan is obviously sixty after twenty years in exile while Anakin would look much older than fifty on account of him being a refrosted piece of overcooked meat.
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Saint Freak posted:That doesn't really match up with what the movies show though. Anakin recognizes them as jedis and he's like 5 years old. Watto does too and he's some kind of bug-man junk dealer that's probably never left Tatooine. But in 4 Han Solo who has supposedly been everywhere is like 'lol the force isn't real'. Maybe it's kind of like priests. You see a dude in a preists' outfit you know they're preists. But you don't expect them to bust out holy miracles or anything. So yeah, dudes in robes with laser swords are jedi, but the force is kind of a joke because who would believe you can choke someone with magical powers until you're being choked from across the room.
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bitterandtwisted posted:I think they got R2 and 3PO's backstories the wrong way round. It's all to explain why Chewie was allowed to repair Threepio on Cloud City.
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Gitro posted:Someone brought it up earlier in the thread but Jyn's mum getting herself pointlessly killed was really dumb. Like what was the plan, point your one gun at 4 soldiers and hope they'll surrender? She didn't even make sure her daughter was in the rock bunker before running off. I read somewhere that originally her mother was a Jedi, so being able to take on 4 soldiers is a reasonable assumption. They changed that, but the scene remained pretty much the same.
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One plot I find irritating, whether it's in movies, television, books or elsewhere, is when all the characters are under control of something except for one person who's unaffected and needs to take out the rest of them. You know, that Invasion of the Bodysnatchers plot. I don't know what it is about it that rubs me the wrong way, but I'm not a fan. Examples: any of those Star Trek episodes where the ship is affected by some alien virus or mind control parasite or whatever.
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Wheat Loaf posted:One plot I find irritating, whether it's in movies, television, books or elsewhere, is when all the characters are under control of something except for one person who's unaffected and needs to take out the rest of them. You know, that Invasion of the Bodysnatchers plot. I don't know what it is about it that rubs me the wrong way, but I'm not a fan. Farscape did an amazing piss take of this - the crew buy a load of food only to be told it's probably carrying some sort of parasite, and are coerced into spending lots of money on a gibberish squeaking muppet that resembles Michael Gove (but I repeat myself ) that can allegedly track it down. The muppet spends the whole episode annoying the poo poo out of them and chasing all over the ship causing chaos. The crew hate the thing so much, and start to think that maybe they've been conned, or that the muppet itself is the parasite that they don't notice they've been gradually replaced by shapeshifting spiders
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Farscape sounds like something I have to watch. How is it on a scale of Enterprise to DS9?
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Better than Enterprise and on par with DS9 except it has more goofy episodes like Stargate.
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I stopped watching early on after some dreadful episode where the lead gets marooned on a planet full of Hawaiian people, but apparently everyone knows it's terrible so it only gets better.
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Bates posted:Farscape sounds like something I have to watch. How is it on a scale of Enterprise to DS9? Around DS9 quality, series ends abruptly (final episode ends on a cliffhanger, series was canned instead of being renewed. Made-for-TV movie that wraps up the plot lines was okay, all things considered). Stronger than DS9's weakest points, weaker than DS9's strongest moments, but around the same quality.
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Bates posted:Farscape sounds like something I have to watch. How is it on a scale of Enterprise to DS9? It has a lot of crazy goofy episodes like the above, but the later seasons ratchet up the seriousness. It becomes less of a swashbuckling romp, and more a story of incredibly broken people being pushed to the absolute limit to survive, caught between two brutal empires. It also has a really nice escalation throughout the series - as our heroes learn more about the galaxy and gain allies they very gradually shift from a bunch of dumb hicks on a spaceship to an actual force to be reckoned with, and the whole scope of the show starts to zoom out. It's bloody brilliant, basically.
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The middle of season 2 has two episodes back to back (Crackers Don't Matter and The Way We Weren't) that perfectly demonstrate the heights of silliness and heart-wrenching the show can achieve. They are two of my favorite episodes of television.
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Farscape is one of those shows where when you hear it described it sounds like the dumbest thing you've ever heard of, but if you give it a fair shot it's a lot of fun. There are definitely low points like with every show, but for what it is it's pretty great.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I stopped watching early on after some dreadful episode where the lead gets marooned on a planet full of Hawaiian people, but apparently everyone knows it's terrible so it only gets better. Apparently the dvd commentary is the entire cast just doing pisstakes of it.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Farscape is one of those shows where when you hear it described it sounds like the dumbest thing you've ever heard of, but if you give it a fair shot it's a lot of fun. There are definitely low points like with every show, but for what it is it's pretty great. The science is dumb, but the character growth and conflict is pretty great. Hell, even the ship gets character development.
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Farscape starts off a bit weakly because it's still finding its feet, but it gets great once Scorpius shows up.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Farscape starts off a bit weakly because it's still finding its feet, but it gets great once
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rydiafan posted:The middle of season 2 has two episodes back to back (Crackers Don't Matter and The Way We Weren't) that perfectly demonstrate the heights of silliness and heart-wrenching the show can achieve. They are two of my favorite episodes of television. 
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I gave farscape a shot a while ago but I couldn't get past the 90s feel after an episode or two, but you've all convinced me to give it another try. How many episodes should I watch before I decide it's not cut out for me? Some shows deserve half a season of semi-watching while playing a game or whatever before it gets its stride, so at what point should I know whether it's worth continuing for me?
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bobkatt013 posted:The hero in Farscape goes completely batshit insane and it's amazing The back on and forth with that one alien in peacekeeper wars was great. "Time, " - "Flies." "Time, " - "Bandits." "Time, " - "Wounds all heals." "Time, " - "Rosemary and... " "Time, " - "Time ends."
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Farscape is awesome, but it does suffer badly from first-season-itis.
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The angst-ridden teenage character in Farscape is a spaceship.
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Aleph Null posted:The science is dumb, but the character growth and conflict is pretty great. Taeke posted:How many episodes should I watch before I decide it's not cut out for me? Some shows deserve half a season of semi-watching while playing a game or whatever before it gets its stride, so at what point should I know whether it's worth continuing for me?
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My sort of intro to Farscape I think was the 'best of season one' sort of collection on DVD about 12-14 years ago from a video store because I couldn't watch it on my cable plan. According to a link I find, it had: "Premiere," "DNA Mad Scientist," "A Human Reaction," "Nerve," "The Hidden Memory," and "Family Ties". So, maybe that's a decent enough burn through for season 1 because I don't think I watched the remaining episodes of the season until way later and didn't feel super lost.
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In IJATLC (Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade) they are searching for the Roman numeral X (that means ten). They can't find it anywhere but then Indy (that short for Indiana Jones) notices something on the floor that the camera keeps hidden from view. Then he climbs a staircase and the camera pulls out to reveal a big X on the floor. There is no reason for Indy to have to climb the staircase. The X is easily visible from the floor he was standing on. It's not so large that he needs a higher view to see all of it nor is X such a complicated symbol it would be hard to figure out without some perspective. Draw an X 10 feet by 10 feet on the floor. You will have no problem identifying it as such at ground level.
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oldpainless posted:In IJATLC (Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade) they are searching for the Roman numeral X (that means ten). They can't find it anywhere but then Indy (that short for Indiana Jones) notices something on the floor that the camera keeps hidden from view. Then he climbs a staircase and the camera pulls out to reveal a big X on the floor. There is no reason for Indy to have to climb the staircase. The X is easily visible from the floor he was standing on. It's not so large that he needs a higher view to see all of it nor is X such a complicated symbol it would be hard to figure out without some perspective. Draw an X 10 feet by 10 feet on the floor. You will have no problem identifying it as such at ground level. More like olddramaticeffectless
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oldpainless posted:In IJATLC (Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade) they are searching for the Roman numeral X (that means ten). They can't find it anywhere but then Indy (that short for Indiana Jones) notices something on the floor that the camera keeps hidden from view. Then he climbs a staircase and the camera pulls out to reveal a big X on the floor. There is no reason for Indy to have to climb the staircase. The X is easily visible from the floor he was standing on. It's not so large that he needs a higher view to see all of it nor is X such a complicated symbol it would be hard to figure out without some perspective. Draw an X 10 feet by 10 feet on the floor. You will have no problem identifying it as such at ground level. It was a movie effect that depended on a joke about "X never marks the spot" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhgawbvBAkg
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One thing that irritated me when I was little was why He-Man evwn bothered with a secret identity when Skeletor wanted to kill Prince Adam and all his friends and family anyway.
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Wheat Loaf posted:One thing that irritated me when I was little was why He-Man evwn bothered with a secret identity when Skeletor wanted to kill Prince Adam and all his friends and family anyway. Because then he'd get harassed by the Paparazzi and people needing him to open tight jar lids.
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Wheat Loaf posted:One thing that irritated me when I was little was why He-Man evwn bothered with a secret identity when Skeletor wanted to kill Prince Adam and all his friends and family anyway. He needs to be Prince Adam because sometimes he needs to just keep it inside, learn how to hide his feeeeeelings
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It's like you guys never had to deal with being in the closet lol
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With Star Wars I never cared for it as a whole (saw the first 6 movies basically once each in my entire life) but I realised something about Yoda a few years ago that gave me new appreciation for the way he was - I realised why he sounds that way. His sentence structure is consistent Verb, Subject, Object, tense . For theoretical examples - "You will/must/should/did go to Coruscant" becomes "Go to Coruscant, you will/should/did..." It's cargo-cult Commom Tongue - his original language has the unusual structure, but he knows the common words. He likely is self-taught as a tutor or course would have taught him the common Subject-Verb(tense)-Object structure of english and he'd likely be putting sentences together like the others. He only knows the words he's trying to get across though, so the structure gets garbled - it's like translating from an eastern language like japanese without knowing european syntax: The sentence would stay in the original grammar.
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RE: Rogue one, can we acknowledge that it takes balls to kill off your entire cast?
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Not really considering they only did it to maintain the status quo for Episode 4 to play out like it does (as in not having to answer where these brand new characters are during the next movie). It also would have been better if the movie had made me care about any of these new characters, which it didn't. Although i will agree that i didn't see that coming. I was expecting to see these same characters again for the next few decades or so and maybe they will be better written in the next movie or somethi-nope nevermind they're all dead. I wonder if they are going to keep Star Wars fairly tight and consistent with just doing one off movies and then the main "episodic" movies and aren't going to take the Marvel route where everybody and their mother is going to end up with their own separate movies that connect to each other.
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It was both inevitable and ballsy
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I'm a big Star Wars fan, and I thought 'Rogue One' was a movie length version of "midichlorians": an explanation of something that didn't need explaining and was, in fact, better left unexplained. Also it's easy to kill off characters that you spend zero effort making anyone care about. Except K2. He was cool. The music sucked. The characters were wafer thin. Everyone knew how it would end before they even saw it. The Darth Vader bit was "cool" in the same way a video game would be cool. And now we have four out of eight Star Wars movies about god drat Death Stars. To keep it on topic, my IIMM for 'Rogue One' is how Cassian goes in about ten minutes from not trusting Jyn with a blaster to being willing to go himself and bring all his friends to die with her on a suicide mission because the plot needs him to, not because the movie earned that in any way. Also Jyn's idiot mother willfully getting herself killed for no reason at all instead of taking care of their kid, because Disney thinks dead parents are a substitute for character development. Imagined has a new favorite as of 14:30 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Ballsy would have been killing Vader and replacing him with Forest Whittaker.
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