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Brolander posted:*skidding in hours later* MARCO'S SHOT DIDN'T COUNT?? He was late. Only had 0.5 second to do that whole thing.
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Henchman of Santa posted:He was late. Only had 0.5 second to do that whole thing.
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The badass rule says it should count
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I only saw it briefly checking my twitter, that sucks. Hopefully the NBA will at least award him a medal
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straight up brolic posted:when are the blazers going to fire terry stotts I don't think he's as good as Blazer fans think he is but also I don't think he's to blame for all this. I think it's more of a front office/ownership problem with the team.
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im here to post about Boban, and what a good boy he is
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rabidsquid posted:im here to post about Boban, and what a good boy he is BOBAN SON OF BOBAN!
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What the hell, Hawks? But who knows whether or not Korver can handle the immense pressure of shooting wide open 3s all day long.
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Making the playoffs in the lower half of the West bracket this year is going to be pointless. The way things are going you're looking at three teams in the conference winning 60+ games, and whatever under-500 team gets the #8 is going to be crushed.
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iono I feel like the Clippers or Rockets are pretty vulnerable, Clippers if the injuries persist and Rockets because what's defense. Could also change around a bit but I feel pretty good about Warriors-Spurs-(Rockets/Clippers in either spot)
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I for one would love to be crushed by the warriors in the playoffs
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I'd love to see Boogie slap the goddamn mouthguard out of Curry's mouth and explain the freudian implications of his oral fixation before the Warriors complete the sweep
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ex post facho posted:reminds me of that billups play in the 09 playoffs against the lakers where he inbounded the ball off kobes back and made the layup lol Someone did this earlier this year for a dunk, I feel like it was a Sun Paul Zuvella posted:we probably are only going to see JR and Korver on the floor when one of Love/Irving rests, and Lebron doesn't, and even then it doesn't make sense against most teams, because JR is too small to guard any real 3s and Korver can't guard anyone. My man you missed the news, Shumpert cut his hair/got braids and now is shooting 41% from three. Cut your hair, NBA Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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WhyteRyce posted:I for one would love to be crushed by the warriors in the playoffs
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Poll question: Who's the Irv Gotti of the NBA?
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https://instagram.com/p/BO5wcBFACu5/ Vote Mike Conley!
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Rick posted:I don't think he's as good as Blazer fans think he is but also I don't think he's to blame for all this. I think it's more of a front office/ownership problem with the team. It's definitely a front office problem. Stotts was in discussion for Coach of the Year last season until it was clear the Warriors would get the record. It would be silly to fire him, so look for the Blazers FO to do just that.
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:It's definitely a front office problem. Stotts was in discussion for Coach of the Year last season until it was clear the Warriors would get the record.
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I mean the fundamental question for me is whether or not you believe that a roster of those players should have the worst defense in the entire league. If not, that's a coaching problem. e: in his 4 years with the team, Stotts has had a top 15 defense exactly once (10th in 2014-15, when they earned 51 wins). straight up brolic fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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straight up brolic posted:I mean the fundamental question for me is whether or not you believe that a roster of those players should have the worst defense in the entire league. If not, that's a coaching problem. I think if we ask this question 15 months ago when everyone thought the Blazers were going to be one of the five worst teams in the league, and in addition to that you announce they added Evan Turner to the team, then we'd probably think them being the worst defensive team in the league was pretty darn possible. Does a team radically overachieve for a reason other than coaching? I mean yeah, it's definitely possible since coaching is super subjective but this is the sort of thing that we generally credit to coaches, right?
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I agree that the Blazers are down across the board from last year and that includes coaching. At the same time Stotts has proven to be a competent coach over his tenure there. And honestly, all they need to do is be a bottom 10 defense and their record would be way better. This team didn't turn it around last year until late January either so here's hoping the coaching staff can explain what a NBA defense is supposed to look like before then.
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2017/lineups/ 1 E. Davis | M. Harkless | D. Lillard | C. McCollum | M. Plumlee 164:27 -3.0 2 A. Aminu | M. Harkless | D. Lillard | C. McCollum | M. Plumlee 147:55 +8.3 I think aminu playing more will help also 8 M. Harkless | D. Lillard | C. McCollum | M. Plumlee | N. Vonleh 47:48 -46.1 Uh that's not very good, Noah.
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Rick posted:I think if we ask this question 15 months ago when everyone thought the Blazers were going to be one of the five worst teams in the league, and in addition to that you announce they added Evan Turner to the team, then we'd probably think them being the worst defensive team in the league was pretty darn possible. The second thing is acknowledging that finishing 3 games over .500 isn't a massive accomplishment because you were the 5th seed. It's not as though they were a 50+ win team. We've been conditioned to thinking that the 5th seed in the West is meaningful and that the 5th in the East is meaningless. Now, based on those premises, you can only evaluate the product on the court given the players at a coaches disposal. I think Stotts has earned himself a "longer leash", but he and his coaching staff haven't figured out Lillard and McCollum on defense at all and it's becoming apparent that some of those "career years" were aberrant for reasons of health & performance (Ed Davis, Aminu). Beyond that, Stotts has individually blown a handful of games this season with poor decision making. I'm of the school of thought that after a couple years, most teams need another voice in their ear, though. e: like, I like what Stotts has done a lot more than what Mark Jackson did, but it feels very reminiscent of the Mark Jackson situation to say that because a young team with an incredible shooting backcourt overachieved, the coaching is not the problem. straight up brolic fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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What could the Kings trade for Milsap? Man if they got him it would be the first good Kings move in forever.
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euphronius posted:What could the Kings trade for Milsap?
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euphronius posted:What could the Kings trade for Milsap? It would only be a good move if he inks a contract too. Giving up assets for a rental would be terrible for the kings Edit: goddamn I was beaten fast on that
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I was talking about it from the POV of "Win now". Obv its a bad long term move. Or could be a bad long term move. euphronius fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Unless they give up a truly stupid package, buying 6 months of Millsap is almost certainly a better use of the Kings resources that whatever other dumb poo poo they'd use them for.
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Imagine when you need a last second shot from a timeout, and you can put a lineup of LeBron, Love, Irving, JR Smith, and Korver out there. Yeah go ahead and defend that.
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*lebron takes 30 foot pull up 3*
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WhyteRyce posted:Portland getting in on the exciting action For whatever reason the Korver trade has ATL getting the 2019 pick, so Cleveland needed to get their 2018 back to do that trade. straight up brolic posted:Well the first thing about last season is acknowledging that we were wrong about the talent level. I don't know whether they would have come to the fore on another team (that's a counterfactual), but Harkless, Aminu, McCollum, Crabbe, Mason Plumlee, and Ed Davis all put up career seasons. You can count that as a win for coaching and for management. I might be the last person but I still think Jackson was/is a slightly above average coach who could've got better but w/e. That said I'm not sure there's much to solve with Lillard and McCollum on defense, outside of getting some elite rim protector. And they're both clearly the best players on the team so it's hard to just not play them. I do agree that a lot of the performance from last year wasn't sustainable at all and giving too much credit to Stotts for that is probably bad. The big thing with dropping Stotts though is finding someone better. Changing just for the sake of change seems quite risky to me, unless you're sure you got someone who will improve you.
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I kind of agree that there is probably a team out there that Mark Jackson could theoretically coach, but it isn't a team with steph curry and Klay Thompson. Also he was loving batshit crazy and literally put the players against the ownership which exactly 0 teams would tolerate.
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straight up brolic posted:Now, based on those premises, you can only evaluate the product on the court given the players at a coaches disposal. I think Stotts has earned himself a "longer leash", but he and his coaching staff haven't figured out Lillard and McCollum on defense at all and it's becoming apparent that some of those "career years" were aberrant for reasons of health & performance (Ed Davis, Aminu). Beyond that, Stotts has individually blown a handful of games this season with poor decision making. I'm of the school of thought that after a couple years, most teams need another voice in their ear, though. I agree that Stotts should really be able to figure out the defense, but it's hard to know how much is him and how much is the players. The starting guards are small but CJ's has a 6'6" wingspan and Lillard a 6'8" wingspan, so they should be able to be average defenders for their position. I don't really think the 4th quarter issues are down to Stotts' decision making. I think the issue is with the players not executing and not playing good defense.
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I'll never be able to get over the story of Jackson trying to lead a coup against loving John Stockton
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Crazy Ted posted:That's pretty much par for the course in the NBA now though. Hell, Monty Williams was fired after improving the team's wins every year and making the playoffs with a team that wish it had this season's health.
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