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The craziest thing I've heard about the mid is that zmp takes their breaks out in their cars
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Sinbad's Sex Tape posted:We roll with 3. First guy takes over some time after 10 until 1 am, then 1-3am, 3-5am. We just page somebody if we need them (we never do) What facility?
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Dec 12, 2016 17:26
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Im suprised about the no phones thing. Here at zsu everyone is constantly on their phones during the mid. We roll with 3 controllers, but due to the "uniqueness" of the operation we always need at least 1 r side and one d side on position.
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Dec 13, 2016 04:43
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Holiday Report: Techops says our Christmas lights cannot be plugged in, because they are a fire hazard. The piece of printer paper doubled up and folded around the bulb of the sup's desk lamp is fine, though.
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Dec 13, 2016 13:17
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MrYenko posted:Holiday Report: Techops says our Christmas lights cannot be plugged in, because they are a fire hazard. We have christmas lights strung up all around the area. I don't think we're supposed to use an extension cord, but we still did. We did the same thing last year. Tommy, you guys are getting a hardship from us. If he goes to your area make him feel bad for leaving 
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fknlo posted:We have christmas lights strung up all around the area. I don't think we're supposed to use an extension cord, but we still did. We did the same thing last year. What is his reasoning for a hardship? PM me his name.
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Dec 14, 2016 03:33
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Just finished my first week at ZSE. I still see the full center maps when I close my eyes, they are burned in from staring at them for a week. Time to get working on my area maps and LoAs. Apparently I got put in the toughest area in the building, lots of low altitude stuff with all the satellite airports in Oregon and sequencing/absorbing delays for SeaTac in the high sectors. Excited about the challenge though, it looks like a lot of fun. PS Center controllers type way too much, I have no idea what's going on when I monitor.
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Dec 18, 2016 03:02
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Zochness posted:Just finished my first week at ZSE. I still see the full center maps when I close my eyes, they are burned in from staring at them for a week. Time to get working on my area maps and LoAs. Apparently I got put in the toughest area in the building, lots of low altitude stuff with all the satellite airports in Oregon and sequencing/absorbing delays for SeaTac in the high sectors. Excited about the challenge though, it looks like a lot of fun. ZSE is numero uno on my shortlist of potential get-the-gently caress-out-of-ZMA facilities. Are you a local, or from somewhere else?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You could always come to lovely Kansas City! Zochness posted:Just finished my first week at ZSE. I still see the full center maps when I close my eyes, they are burned in from staring at them for a week. We have a transfer from some up/down that had to be talked out of filing a grievance because "the maps contained too much information to learn". That's not a loving joke.
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MrYenko posted:ZSE is numero uno on my shortlist of potential get-the-gently caress-out-of-ZMA facilities. Are you a local, or from somewhere else? It really does seem like a great facility, everybody tells us we won the lottery as far as facilities go. I'm from Texas, but I've wanted to get out to the west for a while. Put in ERRs all over the place, and finally got picked up here, mostly because of my involvement in NATCA. This was before the new ERR changes of course. fknlo posted:We have a transfer from some up/down that had to be talked out of filing a grievance because "the maps contained too much information to learn". That's not a loving joke. Hahahaha, it definitely is so much more than I had to learn in Amarillo, but there is a lot of time to get it all down. There are 4 of us CPC-ITs that are getting "rushed" through to be on the floor by April, I know its gonna be some work but I'll get it figured out.
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I interned at ZSE FDC, and the lovely part was that it's in Auburn. Never turn down donut star if someone is going on a run, though. Best doughnuts. Period.
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Dec 18, 2016 05:27
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Oh hey seattle based jet pilot I talk to you ZSE fuckers all the time. Granted it's usually to assign me .72 and fly heading 270 for metering into KSEA on a goddamn sunny day because "north flow" but, you know, still always pleasant
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Dec 18, 2016 08:50
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Hey did anyone notice they made an *Air Traffic Controller* figure from the new Star Wars movie?! He's holding the flashlights upside down though.
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I went to ZSE once, the rep told me the average day was a 4,500 count. I kinda laughed, a little too loud.
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Dec 19, 2016 18:31
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Zochness posted:Apparently I got put in the toughest area in the building, lots of low altitude stuff with all the satellite airports in Oregon and sequencing/absorbing delays for SeaTac in the high sectors. As a very occasional pilot out of KHIO and 7S3, thank you for your service! 
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Dec 20, 2016 03:19
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TangoFox posted:I went to ZSE once, the rep told me the average day was a 4,500 count. I kinda laughed, a little too loud. I've worked in towers that did half this a day pretty consistently.
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Dec 24, 2016 14:54
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MrYenko posted:Level 11 facility: They will blame FD.
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I think I may have made it through the A-TSA(?) USA jobs says my status is referred, but the FAA site lists two possible referral lists: 100082 and 100085. The former "may or may not be contacted for an interview" , while for the latter "your application was not included at this time." Not sure if my status being referred means I'm part of that first list or not. Either way, I guess I'm one step closer.
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Jan 5, 2017 14:05
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I'm not up to speed on the current hiring lingo, but "referred" used to mean pretty good things. A buddy of mine posted this image recently on his application, maybe yours says something similar? 
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That's it, yeah.
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When I went through, referred meant "we're gonna give you the psych evaluation and piss test you, and if you pass, you're hired." I have no idea what it means now.
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Jan 5, 2017 15:58
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Cool beans. Sounds like you're moving forward in the process.
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That's what it appears. Super stoked. A week before my birthday, too!
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its all nice on rice posted:That's what it appears. Super stoked. A week before my birthday, too! congrats i hope! ZSE has been a loving mess the past few days. On 3 diff flights, I've had 15-20 min of metering, a hold over BTG, and tons of vectoring ... to go land at a completely severe clear seattle airport. That place has.. issues.
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The ladyfriend and I are freaking out a bit that I've made it this far, but there's still a chance I don't make it. My only worry is my age (30 in a week). My mom seems to think that applying and making it to the A-TSA means I'm automatically in and she should call every relative in her phonebook. Stuckmic (as -eh- as it is) is saying 2-4 weeks before any update beyond "Referred".
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The Slaughter posted:ZSE has been a loving mess the past few days. On 3 diff flights, I've had 15-20 min of metering, a hold over BTG, and tons of vectoring ... to go land at a completely severe clear seattle airport. I haven't been down to the floor this week because we were learning how to fly fake airplanes in the simulators for other trainees, but I've heard about some of the issues. I guess we take on most of the delays when other sectors/centers could be helping out more or something? Apparently this is different than the way a lot of other places run it. I hear Seattle approach can be kind of hard to work with as well. I'm still new to all this center/big hub airport stuff, sorry I can't shed more light on the subject. I'll be seeing it all firsthand soon enough.
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Zochness posted:I haven't been down to the floor this week because we were learning how to fly fake airplanes in the simulators for other trainees, but I've heard about some of the issues. I guess we take on most of the delays when other sectors/centers could be helping out more or something? Apparently this is different than the way a lot of other places run it. I hear Seattle approach can be kind of hard to work with as well. I'm still new to all this center/big hub airport stuff, sorry I can't shed more light on the subject. I'll be seeing it all firsthand soon enough. Yeah usually you get metered from the south with whatever center controls BTG, they've told me a BTG time locks in once you pass about LKV VOR... So we fly fast til then and yeah usually are flying at .78 til 150nm before BTG when we could slow to .72 3 centers earlier if we knew what was up, so yeah I can see that...
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its all nice on rice posted:The ladyfriend and I are freaking out a bit that I've made it this far, but there's still a chance I don't make it. My only worry is my age (30 in a week). My mom seems to think that applying and making it to the A-TSA means I'm automatically in and she should call every relative in her phonebook. It was exciting every time I got to the next step, but since I applied so many times, we knew that it was still a long shot and a long wait. I got in during last year's bid and I went right from taking the ATSAT to getting the tentative offer letter (which still took 2 months, none of this referral stuff) and then doing all the paperwork after getting the TOL. ATSAT to the academy was just over 4 months and I was in the first few classes from the bid, I know people from my bid that just got to the academy last month. Good luck to you in the painful and infuriating process.
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The Slaughter posted:Yeah usually you get metered from the south with whatever center controls BTG, they've told me a BTG time locks in once you pass about LKV VOR... So we fly fast til then and yeah usually are flying at .78 til 150nm before BTG when we could slow to .72 3 centers earlier if we knew what was up, so yeah I can see that... That's my area, so looking forward to dealing with that, haha. I think the big problem is SeaTac's size and layout. In a best case scenario PDX can accept an arrival a minute vs. SeaTac can only do an arrival about every minute and a half. You're gonna get big departure delays running arrivals to the L/R runways and departures off the center.
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Zochness posted:I guess we take on most of the delays when other sectors/centers could be helping out more or something? Apparently this is different than the way a lot of other places run it. You'll soon realize that the ATCSCC exists solely to cater to the demands of ZDC and ZNY, and is borderline incompetent at dealing with flow control issues literally anywhere else in the country.
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two_beer_bishes posted:It was exciting every time I got to the next step, but since I applied so many times, we knew that it was still a long shot and a long wait. I got in during last year's bid and I went right from taking the ATSAT to getting the tentative offer letter (which still took 2 months, none of this referral stuff) and then doing all the paperwork after getting the TOL. ATSAT to the academy was just over 4 months and I was in the first few classes from the bid, I know people from my bid that just got to the academy last month. Good luck to you in the painful and infuriating process. They're keeping everything so in the dark that I'm wondering what the next step will be. As was mentioned before, "referred" used to be piss/psych then TOL, but with things changing all the time, who even knows? I'm just hoping I get an email in two months saying "go pee in a cup."
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MrYenko posted:You'll soon realize that the ATCSCC exists solely to cater to the demands of ZDC and ZNY, and is borderline incompetent at dealing with flow control issues literally anywhere else in the country. "Support Facilities" 
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MrYenko posted:You'll soon realize that the ATCSCC exists solely to cater to the demands of ZDC and ZNY, and is borderline incompetent at dealing with flow control issues literally anywhere else in the country. This so much, gently caress ZNY and their holiday reroutes
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MrYenko posted:
Holy balls. You guys are a 12 right? I mean, I know ZJX is an 11 and is perma hosed mode due to the poo poo lords in the union, but yea.
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Busiest level 11 in the world.
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MrYenko posted:Busiest level 11 in the world. Busier than most 12s too! *Man I got to ask. This Cuba thing jacked up operations that much? I'm looking at your air carrier operations. BTW, the way the FAA does traffic count is complete horse poo poo. It will count a single new student pilot in a C-152 as one operation (and you guys know how much work these poor cats can be) and a air carrier as...something like 4x that? I forget. And those guys are easy peasy comparatively. Tommy 2.0 fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Tommy 2.0 posted:Busier than most 12s too! You do know that as we now have CPDLC we will permanag via text for a better level right? The abbreviations we now come up with makes TXT SPK seem old :P On an aside thank the stars for the above, UK - Canaries oceanic is now bearable as a result.
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